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     Jay Reeves (Jay) New Member Username: Jay Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2003 |
Next question: has anybody had any success in making the bottom of the doors watertight? What'd you do? All my door seals at the bottom are splt - not torn, but from the factory that way - 2 gaps at the bottom about 1/4". And if you sit in water for more than a few seconds higher than the floorboard, water comes gushing in. I really hate getting my fuzzy bunny rabbit house shoes wet when muddin'. ;) | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 100 Registered: 07-2002 |
I think just about any route you take, you're going to have a problem with water intrusion after you're soaking in it. A better route might be to waterproof the inside of the truck a bit more. I'd start by pulling out all the carpet, rhinolining the floor. Then, either relocate the ECU, or seal it in a waterproof container. Finally, get a second pair of "wheeling" bunny slippers so that you can keep your good house ones nice and clean. ;-) Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2003 |
Yea, I think I would be more concerned about the ECU than leakie doors. Do you flood your truck offen? | ||
| Kevin Novakowski (Kln) New Member Username: Kln Post Number: 38 Registered: 02-2002 |
I used an old bicycle tire tube. I cut it so it overlapped by 1/4 inch or so. Used a bit of silicone near the top edge and glued the tube on leaving the bottom end open so it would drain. | ||
| Stephen Hawkins (Madmole) New Member Username: Madmole Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2003 |
Apparently the slots were put in on purpose to make sure the truck sinks and doesn't float off downstream Folks here in the UK fill the gaps with Silicon or sikoflex and they seem to seal fine after that | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 959 Registered: 02-2002 |
Here is your answer:  | ||
| Jay Reeves (Jay) New Member Username: Jay Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2003 |
Love the sump pump idea! (guess it's a sump pump!) But...is that for going ahead and pumping water IN just to go ahead and get the suspense over with? Flood my truck often? Only when I got that saying backwards and did the "go as fast as possible and as slow as neccessary" and it died in the middle. Yeah, I'm thinking the "silicon" route too, but wondered if it worked. | ||
| Bill Howell (Billh13) Member Username: Billh13 Post Number: 235 Registered: 03-2003 |
Is that a sump pump????? | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 961 Registered: 02-2002 |
Its a sureflo RTV water pump. It can pull 10 feet and can run dry without problems or stopping. Going through water with that is now as relaxing as watching a Steven Segal movie on a quiet Sunday afternoon, in a comfortable reclining armchair, a beer in one hand, and leftover chinese takeout in the other  | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 328 Registered: 05-2003 |
I cleaned the entire seal area with alcohol and then applied duck tape to the entire length of it. I found black duck tape at walmart so that I could leave it on all the time and still have stock appearance. I used a credit card to force the tape into all the lines at the door base making a tight and secure application. Had great success with that, not a drop of water inside while wading or when stuck in a rut with water just a bit higher than the door base. Only problem was - duh, I opened the door to get out to attach shackles, I made a small ripple wave and sent it right into my truck when I closed the door (next time, I'll go in and out the window) The tape had to be ripped out last month for some other work to be done, and I have yet to have the success as I did with the original application. I can't get the tape to stick and seal with that good tight fit and it keeps coming loose. I did a thorough job with goo gone to remove all the old glue residue and cleaned it again with alcohol. That didn't help. I've come to the conclusion that the first time is the charm, maybe it only works once. BTW, recently someone told me to carry mylar tape for covering the holes in the bottom of the doors before getting rover wet. It can't stay on all the time because those are drain holes. Mylar tape is supposed to come off easily when you finish wading & trail rides. I bought some, but have not tried it yet. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 332 Registered: 04-2003 |
So Jamie, you learned to have the shackles ready before going in the water? Andy | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 330 Registered: 05-2003 |
Actually, on that particular trip, I did have everything hooked up before trail rides started. I still had to get it my recovery strap and shackle to the rover who recovered me... I confess, I momentarily considered letting them come to me - but, reminded myself that I had no business being out there if I was not willing to do the work and get dirty, so I jumped in. For better or worse, I learned to have recovery gear attached an even harder way - I found that out the first time mud tried to swallow my truck. | ||
| Peter J Blatt (Peteb) Senior Member Username: Peteb Post Number: 273 Registered: 10-2002 |
The silicone does help, but also there are holes in the under side of the doors to allow rain water to drain out, these too will allow water into the doors and therefore into the vehicle, they can be taped for the days that you are going mudding, but be aware that they should be open the rest of the time, | ||
| Peter J Blatt (Peteb) Senior Member Username: Peteb Post Number: 275 Registered: 10-2002 |
Check out the DEEPEST WATER post on this board, the only real damage was the srs ecu got fried, all else is fine! the water was about 2" from coming up on the front seats on the inside, oh well, that's life in a d1 submarine, now i too bought a rv pump to be installed before my next trip. Peter | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 138 Registered: 05-2003 |
My first time out with Dean and Peter    I figure once the carpet is wet, the rest doesn't matter....at least not until it gets to electrical stuff. So no bilge pump for me. Luckily, my D1 does'nt have an ECU under the seat, (not that that kept me from giving it a bath), and I always remove the CD player before venturing into the pines. The last time out I taped the cuts at the corners of the door gasket with electrical tape, and the bottom of the drain holes, and I only got a trickle of water, so that's my solution for now. | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 111 Registered: 06-2003 |
You guys are gonna laugh at my hand bilge pump arent you. maybe when i get my SS, i wont need it anymore. or ill just get stuck so far away that no one can get to me. The silicone and tape work good at keeping the water out for a while, but ifyou sit in deep water long enough it will find a way in. I went undermy truck and siliconed every hole i could find, siliconed the door seals, and taped the drain hole, because theyare drain holes and cant be permanetly sealed. This should buy you enough time to winchyourself out or have someone pull you out, assuming that someone else in your group isnt also hopelessly stuck. -Rick | ||
| Bruce Potier (Brucep) Member Username: Brucep Post Number: 81 Registered: 06-2003 |
I agree with Rick. I sat in a hood-deep hole on Sunday, wondering if our trail sherpa (one of the teenagers in the group), was going to get me hooked-up fast enough. Seconds seemed like hours, but to no avail… bloop-bloop-bloop, water won the race that time. |
