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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Post Number: 331
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I found someone to fill my power tank with CO2 this week (finally!). I want to try using it today and get some practice b4 using it on the trail. My power tank came with the standard air chuck.

I sure wish that I had purchased the heavy duty power inflator and guage accessory that is also available from power tank.

No one in my area sells power tanks or accessories. Does anyone know if I can go to a place like home depot to buy an inflator WITH a tire guage that I can use safely with the power tank?

Thanks in advance, Jamie
 

Will Cupp (W_cupp)
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/135.jpg

I'm sure there is a cheaper verison, but here is basicly what you should look for. $89.15 from Matco
 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Post Number: 332
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Will!
 

Kahbahzahkee (Koby)
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Post Number: 592
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://expeditionexchange.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=18590&cat=&pa ge=
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 133
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just got my powertank filled too...The heavy duty inflator is really worth it. So easy to use for both inflating and deflating.

You should also pick up some quick release ends for the inflator and the standard chuck too. Each connection is only about 2 dollars. I also bought an air blower that I can use on my photography gear. Got it all from http://www.snapon.com/

Jamil
 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 333
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks. I went to Home Depot and Lowes. The only thing they carried were flimsy inflaters that measured psi with a bar that popped up. I don't think that is a good idea - I want the visible guage so that I can see when I near desired psi.

I just order the heavy duty inflator from Expedition Exchange. It looks very sturdy.

For today, I will practice with the standard air chuck that came with my power tank. Home Dept did have the teflon tape that the instructions say to use on the fittings, so it was not a wasted trip.

Thanks again :-) Jamie

Jamil, have you tried the staun tire deflators? I highly recommend them - they work great. Once you have them set, just put them on & they do all the deflating work for you! :-) I colored mine with magic markers - 2 have the tips colored black so that I remember black = back (tires).

I also put a strip around them with pink nail polish. That way, when I lose them or accidentally leave one of them sitting on the ground, everyone knows who they belong to and I get them back again. You probably don't want to put pink paint on yours though!!! :-) :-)
 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Post Number: 334
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Which end of the hose goes attached to the power tank?

The instructions do not mention that the ends of the yellow hose are different.

One of them has a fixed male end. The side view of this end of the hose looks like 2 nuts sitting on top of each other.

The other end has a male end that twists in either direction. The side view of this end of the hose looks like 3 nuts sitting on top of each other.

Thanks, Jamie
 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 335
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If this helps, on the yellow power tank hose it says "DURATHANE BALLAST COIL WWW.POWERTANK.COM - MADE IN USA (250W.P.S.I. - 1000P.S.IBURST)

I think I found the hose that I have on the power tank website (product HP1000). On the website, it states that "each end uses a swivel brass fitting".

Only one end of my hose swivels.
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Username: Uzbad

Post Number: 163
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

4x4rockshop.com is where i got my Outback CO2 system and "precision gauge" which is deflator/inflator hoose with gauge attached. Pretty handy 8)

As of which end - i am not sure about powertank by on mine its female end that goes to powertank.
 

Sean Arney (Seana)
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Username: Seana

Post Number: 66
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

EE sells an absolute puss system!! Just call John at EE and he'll hook you up with the best stuff. I have had mine for a while - cant beat it...super nice, heavy duty stuff. Airs up my truck in minutes.
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 136
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamie,
I was thinking to get the tire deflators but I have heard too many bad things about them. Sometimes they dont work and the whole tire can go flat or they don't work when you are already aired down a bit.

Might be different models. Have you had any of these problems?

As for the teflon tape, I just attached the pieces really tight and there's no leaking.

Jamil
 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 336
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamil,

I had a bit of trouble setting them at first, but it turned out to be my error. Once I knew what I was doing, I have NOT had a problem with them at all.

I can easily guess what would cause a problem though - when you originally set them, you air down your tires, then tighten the twisty part of deflators to that setting. I think that if you allowed that part to loosen, it would work itself looser whenever you touched it - which would change how much air they were set to release. I imagine they could be loosened enough that they possibly could air down a tire to flat.

As far as your hearing that they don't work when you are already aired down a bit: this is a possibility and I'm guessing it could happen b/c the air pressure in the tires is what starts the deflating process. That's no problem at all and the instructions say that if they don't start on their own, just pull the little plunger up and they start deflating. This does work, they start up and air down to the preset level.

Since they screw on and off the tires anyway, I am careful to check to make sure that each deflator is screwed tight itself before and after I use them on my tires. I just do that automatically b/c I don't want to lose the settings for my tires and have to go back to the process of setting them.

I just luv them, there are 4 and they come in a small leather type pouch that snaps closed. I carry small things like that with their related items in little Pelican MicroCases. I get them for less than $10 at Boaters World. I'm hooked on those too. They come in several colors and they all have clear tops so you can see what is in them. You can fit quite a few of them in your glovebox or even under your seat in the CD player compartment since they are watertight. I don't know about you, but I tend to lose things (especially if they are small) so I need to keep them in "designated areas". One of them is devoted to spare fuses. Just another item you might want to put on your shopping wish list since you seem to be in the organizing stage too.

Back to the Stauns, what I think is so cool is that I just walk around my truck putting them on -then by the time I have come back to my starting point, I just continue walking around my truck a 2nd time removing them. They work that fast and I don't even have to think about it.

I don't know about you, but I always seem to have lots of last minute stuff to do when I arrive for trail ride - anything that can I can trust to take care of itself is an asset for me!

Do the ends on your yellow power tank hose look like mine do? Does either end of yours twist? What does the end that you attached to your tank look like? I searched the web and a few of the hoses I saw were color coded red or black on the ends - mine don't have any markings. I plan to call Power Tank on Monday to find out how I should hook it up.
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 138
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 01, 2003 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the info on the tire deflators. Sounds like they will save me a lot of time and annoyance. I haven't used the Power Tank for deflation yet...been using the LR key in the past.

As for the powertank hose. Mine does not have the cool grippy material on the ends like the photos on EE.

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/powertank/DCP_0262.jpg

It just has cheap smooth plastic there in the same shape that can slide up and down the hose. doesn't really matter much to me. Only one end is twisty and I attached that end to the tank. It doesn't really matter which end you connect. On another note, when I finally got it filled, I couldn't get the handle or regulator off so I was going to have the guy at the welding shop do it. He took it in the back and said that he just filled it through the regulator...the guy I bought it from said this should be fine. I tested it out many times and it works perfectly.

As for storage, I bought a Tuffy cargo drawer should be here any day now and plan to bolt it to the back and put all my stuff in there.
http://www.pbase.com/image/22882075

Jamil


 

Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Username: Rover_puppy

Post Number: 338
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jamil,

I had the same trouble. It took me several days to figure out how to get the handle and the regulator off. I'd try to figure it out, get frustrated, and walk away to go work on something else. When I figured it out, I felt much more comfortable around my tank.

Did a big black hex key come with your tank?

Face the guages and enclose the entire apparatis gently in your hand. You will find that it will move and you can twist the entire thing slightly sideways (as in: if you kept twisting it 90 degrees, the guages would all be sideways. Note: I did not attempt to twist mine 90 degrees)

Twist the entire thing to the side - just enough to give you clearance to the black bolts. Use the big black hex key to remove the bolts from the handle. Once the bolts are free, the handle comes off in 2 pieces.

When the handle is off, there is enough room to access the silver part of the regulator that must be turned to remove the regulator. I did not have a wrench that fit on it so I used an adjustable wrench to remove it. Now that I know what I need, I will buy a wrench that fits properly to make removing the regulator easier for me (plus I scratched up the silver part a little bit using the adjustable wrench).

Just my opinion, but I am for following instruction on these kinds of things. I'd also insist that anyone filling my tank did the same - but, again, that is just my opinion. If I choose to take chances, I'd much rather do it on something way much more fun than filling a power tank :-)

 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Username: Uzbad

Post Number: 165
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, November 02, 2003 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually you better off not removing hose and regulator till you going for refill. Thing is - there is plenty of pressure inside there and you basically wasting it each time when you disconnect things.


As of staun deflators - new style ones are AWESOME. I used them for nearly entire summer and they never failed me :-) Nothing like NOT sitting next to each tire, waiting for few minutes to deflate it to proper psi.. :-)

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