| Author | Message | ||
     Brent Fox (Bfox) Member Username: Bfox Post Number: 120 Registered: 10-2002 |
Where can I get the clamps for limb risers like the one on the BBS gallery? I assume that is some sort of conduit clamp but I can't find them locally and an internet search hasn't produced them either. http://www.discoweb.org/bbspics/2724.jpg Thanks Brent | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 134 Registered: 05-2003 |
I don't have them, but I would rather recommend getting a small tab welded onto the brush bar. Those are rather bulky and unsightly. | ||
| Peter J Blatt (Peteb) Senior Member Username: Peteb Post Number: 272 Registered: 10-2002 |
Although i would take two. Peter, if you do find them please let me know. | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 135 Registered: 05-2003 |
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| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 113 Registered: 06-2003 |
Has anyone made limb risers out of a steel bar? I saw a pic of one on a Unimog. It was part of the roll cage. I know there is an issure with the hood but what if it was mounted to a swing away mount and a quick disconect on the other side? Anyone seen, done, heard of this? any ideas. I had limb risers and they were awesome untill they broke. now i have a huge scratch on my hood. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 639 Registered: 11-2002 |
I have heard people say that the limb risers are only for show while on the road, but nice to have off road. I was driving through a construction site (across a bridge...limited shoulder area room) and a worker was carrying a long 2x4. He turned the wrong way just as I was driving by, and the board was heading right toward my windshield. It hit my limb riser and bounced right off! No damage done to anything. It would have smashed it if the risers weren't there. I guess that's why they call it the Urban Jungle. Hey...that would make a great commercial...show an old SIIA going through the jungle, then it fades to a Disco going through a city. It could say something like, "Land Rover. Built for the Urban Jungle" Nobody steal that idea, ok? | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 340 Registered: 04-2003 |
I hope LR steals the idea, Greg  It'd be a lot better than the "Freelander driving through the city at 100 mph," or the "Royalty gives the go-ahead to the Rangie" commercials we're stuck with now. What happened to the Camel Trophy ads? | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 836 Registered: 09-2002 |
That's a really cool idea for a commercial Greg! | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 640 Registered: 11-2002 |
Great..anybody in advertising here? | ||
| Jack Edwards (Olered) Senior Member Username: Olered Post Number: 450 Registered: 04-2002 |
The clamps that I chose are for chain-linked fencing. I picked them up at Home Depot. | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 146 Registered: 05-2003 |
Is there any way to do this without a roof rack? I have a LR expedition rack but I live in the city now so it will be off for a while. Any type of clamp that can go to the gutter? Got any photos of those clamps Jack? Thanks, Jamil | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 641 Registered: 11-2002 |
I used electrical wire securing clamp-thingies. Just thought of the background music for the commercial...it all depends on who you want to market it to. For the adventure seeker who will use the truck as it was intended like we all do, it could be "Welcome to the jungle" or for the family mall crawlers, "In the Jungle (The Lion Sleeps Tonight)" | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 342 Registered: 04-2003 |
Jamil: You need to go higher than the gutter...I'd say something mounted to the roof rails might work. If you have Yakima or Thule loadbars, you could attach at the outside edge of the loadbar. Warning though: It looks like crap. Andy | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 838 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hey Greg, how about a twist on your commercial idea? The SIIA going through a jungle and emerges onto pavement. As it emerges, it morphs into a Disco rolling through the city. "In the Jungle (The Lion Sleeps Tonight)" playing the background the whole time and at the end a british voice comes in saying, "Land Rover. For any jungle." I think that would be pretty neat. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2607 Registered: 02-2002 |
Rick, So, when something hits that solid limb riser and breaks it loose, do you want it impaling through the windshield, or just a cable flopping around scratching the hood? Why did the cable come loose? What broke it? Think about the reprocussions of the SNAFU..... FWIW.... -L | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 117 Registered: 06-2003 |
I saw it on a unimog and it looked awesome. What broke was the crimp when i was pulling someone out of a mud pit and my bumper got slightly pulled out and ripped the cable out. I would think that the bar would bend and not break if i ever did hit anything that hard? yes, no? If i hit something hard enough to break a bar or a 1/4" cable, my windsheil will probably be toast also. something like this is what i was thinking  seems solid enough. Has anyone ever seen something like this. thanks -Rick | ||
| Lee R. Byrd (Mobile) New Member Username: Mobile Post Number: 37 Registered: 07-2003 |
If you ran a solid limbriser rather than a "flexible" cable it would tear the weakest attachment (roof rack) apart. The bumper is attached to the frame and flexes seperately from the body. The roof rack attaches to the gutters and flexes seperately from the frame. (Technically it will flex differently than the body but pointless for the limited scope of this.) Since the roof rack is less sturdy than the bumper, unless the bumper is a POS, the roof rack will sustain most of the vibration transmitted from the bumper (frame) to the gutter (body). IE the roof rack will be rattled a lot and a weld may come apart or something along those lines. Also, consider what might happen to the gutter. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 971 Registered: 02-2002 |
LOL some of those pos supposedly-HD bumpers out there will flex more than the roof rack! | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2609 Registered: 02-2002 |
So, what would you weld it to? Are you going to put an external cage on your Disco? If you make it so it would swing away, it's really not going to be as strong as you think, and if it broke loose and was swinging around, I think it could get ugly. I'd stick with cables. -L | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 972 Registered: 02-2002 |
Lee - is there really that much flex between the frame and the body like you say? Limb risers are rigid (in one direction) under tension just like a bar would be. | ||
| Jack Edwards (Olered) Senior Member Username: Olered Post Number: 452 Registered: 04-2002 |
Remember that we are speaking of limb risers and not tree movers. I believe that it would be foolish to trust limb risers to huge branches and logs if that's what we're all getting at. I believe that they are great for doing what they are designed for: moving small limbs out of the way and to prevent them from smacking the windscreen. | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 118 Registered: 06-2003 |
I can see that there maybe more vibration going to the roofrack, which may cause problems, but i am not planning on flying down wooded trails, anymore then i would without limb risers anyways. I was just looking for options and thought the bar might be viable. Yes I am considering a full external cage sometime in the future. I think my SG bumper is strong, but not indestructable. My roofrack i also think is strong though, and hasnt moved since i put it on, i wish i could say that about my bumper. I was thinking about putting a hinge on the bumper side and a quick disconnect on the roofrack. Maybe reinforcing the roofrack? | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 973 Registered: 02-2002 |
Hinge? Oh the connectors (small shackles, etc) are way weaker than the roof rack if you go with the cable type. Wouldn't bother with reiforcing the rack. Its hardly a bid deal anyway, I know first hand that risers are just for posing anyways You could probably get away with some black string! | ||
| Lee R. Byrd (Mobile) New Member Username: Mobile Post Number: 39 Registered: 07-2003 |
Dean, I can not speak from the standpoint of an engineer or anything. My experience comes from a lot of research when I built my rollcage for my Jeep. The general consensus, from every authoritative source possible, is that frame and the body flex seperately. If you drive down the highway everyday and never go off-road you May be fine. If you go off-road you will have problems when hard-mounting something from the frame to the body. Personally, I will Never do it on a roll cage. Subsequently, I will not do it with a limb riser. The two parts flex seperately and hard-mounting them together will Likely result in a vibration related failure at some point. Consider this: The body has flexible rubber "body mounts", poly for some applications, and the frame has none. There Will be flex differences between the two. The result of the flex May cause failure. Why buy an expensive rig and put on top-notch parts just to built in an inherent weakness. Build vehicles up, not down. | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 396 Registered: 05-2003 |
Thanks for the informative post. I just crossed "get limb risers" off of my "to do" list. Jamie | ||
| Jon Bowers (Jonbowers7) Member Username: Jonbowers7 Post Number: 80 Registered: 07-2002 |
FYI, when it comes to limb risers, Rovers North will make just about any length you want. They use nice shackles and adjustable turnbuckles, all out of stainless steel. Had a set made for my D90 a while ago and will have set done for the Disco as well. Nice stuff..not cheap (around 200.00 a set), but what is cheap AND nice? | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 157 Registered: 06-2003 |
Jon, in the tech section here there are instructions onhow to make a limb riser for $20. Works great and looks nice | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1001 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yeah fuck that Jon, $200 for risers just ain't on! And stainless shackles are not as strong as galvanized either. HD and (especially) Lowes sells all the parts, and you can buy online black plastic coated galvo cable for around $20 that will look great too. Think what to do with the other $160 or so! You can make skid plate and sliders for that |
