| Author | Message | ||
     Clay W Davis (Cwdavis4) New Member Username: Cwdavis4 Post Number: 17 Registered: 09-2003 |
I have a few newbie questions for my LR and general off-roading. I was going down a super steep hill with some major ditches. I think the maximum left/right roll-over is around 45 degree (I wasn’t too worried about this) but do I really need to worry about front / back roll-over? Several people were concerned my LR might flip back-over-front when the front end went into one of the holes. I was going down really slow (less than a few mph) and tried to keep a straight line so my rear did not get out of line. The fear was when the front end dropped into the hole, the back-end would of course pop up some, and hence the back-over-front roll over worry. I personally wasn’t too worried about this but I thought it was worth a post. Thank you for any thoughts. Regards...Clay PS Some additional trail info, it was a tight trail so I couldn’t use a switchback route and the trail had a gravel sort of surface which made braking / slow speed more difficult. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 341 Registered: 04-2003 |
Not sure Clay, but remember that a lot of the weight is up front, which makes it pretty damn difficult to flip back-over-front at about any angle. I'd be more concerned going uphill, but not as concerned as the sideways slide/rollover combination... Andy | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1117 Registered: 09-2002 |
Andy, a Discovery has nearly 60% of its weight on the rear axle, which is why it is less likely to flip back-over-front. For the same reason, it is more likely to flip backwards doing a hillclimb. however, I believe in either case the angle is over 45 degrees. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1155 Registered: 02-2003 |
peter, that is is the gas tank is full. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/indexmain9.htm rd | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 774 Registered: 08-2002 |
Damn Rob! That is pretty much insane in my book. Is that you? It was pretty obvious that the approach angle was not going to be enough to pull you out of that hill. Just an ounce of gas at the wrong time would have sent that Disco over, especially since the nose was planted in the dirt. Probably speaks a mile for some driving skill there. How far did the rig fall before the face plant? Pretty impressive, nontheless. Not too much carnage either. If I would have tried that I would be on the roof for sure. Brian | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 343 Registered: 04-2003 |
I just got home from work and realized I put the wrong words there. Of course it should be "in the rear" not "up front."  Andy | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1156 Registered: 02-2003 |
brian , what is pictured was an accident. i was back at camp filling my belly with brisket while that happened. it's as steep and far as it looks i will say that. i understand some damage occured to the motor/trans mounts from the abrubt stop. airbags did not go off. everyone was ok. rd | ||
| Edward Bibb (Heirless) Member Username: Heirless Post Number: 48 Registered: 04-2003 |
Rob, too funny.. when I saw this thread, I was planning to paste the (thats a cliff) link. Seems we persevered back at the camp munching on that NEWKIRK Brisket. | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 775 Registered: 08-2002 |
Well crap! Sorry. Sorry to who ever was in the accident and glad everyone is OK. I guess I should eat my words about that skill part. All I can say is... I learned to walk the trail the hard way too. But not quite that hard. Usually I tend to look before I leap these days. An accident!? Really? Nevermind... Oh, and about that brisket. You know I like some good brisket myself. But the picture on the EE home page makes it look like something from Fear Factor. ;-) Cheers, Brian | ||
| traveltoad (Traveltoad) Member Username: Traveltoad Post Number: 75 Registered: 11-2002 |
We did eat a fearful amount of food! | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1119 Registered: 09-2002 |
Rob, I didn't even know there was an ICS2... and you were there! | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 540 Registered: 09-2002 |
"i understand some damage occurred to the motor/trans mounts from the abrupt stop." Yes, all four engine and tcase mounts sheared and the whole drive-train moved forward (downward?) about 2 inches. Hopefully, it's all better now, Mike? "We did eat a fearful amount of food!" Ha-ha, speak for yourself Aaron. Superb eggplant BTW, but what the hell do you have against egg beaters?? SC | ||
| Edward Bibb (Heirless) Member Username: Heirless Post Number: 51 Registered: 04-2003 |
Steve, thanks for the use of the generator last weekend. I learned much following you. Very graceful in all situations. TRULY Aaron, how do you feel about Eggbeaters? Don't hold back...(was that a long conversation?) eddie | ||
| Kahbahzahkee (Koby) Senior Member Username: Koby Post Number: 601 Registered: 02-2002 |
Steve? Graceful? Perhaps Doug can comment on Steve's gracefulness on Friday night... | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 543 Registered: 09-2002 |
Eddie, I believe you TRULY know Aaron's feelings about EggBeaters (don't we all?). Graceful, me? You're confusing me with someone who can wheel!!! SC PS. TENT COT!!! | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 202 Registered: 11-2002 |
I dont think he is talking about wheeling, I think he is talking about barking lizards... http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/104_0409.JPG | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 858 Registered: 05-2002 |
OK - so let me get this straight: **Traveltoad = Aaron **Aaron is not liking Eggbeaters **Brisket keeps people safe at camp OK - now that we have that down I feel better. Ed, do you want to tell how you got to sleep Saturday night at ICS? I think you were counting how many times a word was said by Aaron and you got to 467? - Curtis | ||
| Ron L (Ronl) Member Username: Ronl Post Number: 203 Registered: 11-2002 |
It wasnt how many bottles of wine.... WAS IT? | ||
| Edward Bibb (Heirless) Member Username: Heirless Post Number: 52 Registered: 04-2003 |
I slept well counting the Furbys digging under the Gold Rover's bonnet. This little bastard has too much to say and too much to time. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/ics2/furby.jpg This thing is spooky... Gremlin sort of thing... | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 480 Registered: 02-2003 |
Yes, the brisket ruled! Best I ever had. As for the accident, now that there are tiretracks going over that edge, I suppose it might be repeated.....
Yes, there were an ICS2, and Rob was there. I know, because I saw him there, and he rode back across to PA with me... - Axel | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1162 Registered: 02-2003 |
shush, i guess brisket did keep me safe, here i've been worried that i ate so much smoked fat that i might suffer a heart ailment. What's this about egg beaters? Did i sleep thru breakfast? LOL how could you guys eat in the morning??? I was full for three days. Yeah peter I was there, what can i say i get around. Long trip for a snack in the desert but i suppose it was worth it. -rob | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1125 Registered: 09-2002 |
bastards... can't believe i didn't hear a word about it. |
