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     matt wawak (Chicagorovers) New Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 31 Registered: 09-2003 |
Hello, I was wondering how well the EZ locker works in a series one Disco. I heard they are cheap and since I only off-road once in awhile it seems like a good deal. The advantage of "complete rear axle locking" would be a help when climbing hills or treking through rough terrain!! Thanks again! | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1127 Registered: 09-2002 |
Matt, if you only off-road once in a while, DON'T install the EZ locker. Besides being annoying, it will create widespread damage in your drivetrain. And, unless you have your hand on someone's used locker, it isn't even that cheap. peter | ||
| Kris Carlquist (Kris_carlquist) New Member Username: Kris_carlquist Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2003 |
I have a Jeep with both a Detroit(rear) and an ARB(front), if I had it to do all over again, both ends would have ARB. I can't really speak to the "widespread damage", but an automatic locker does introduce a few unusual stresses on your drivetrain. But that is not the real concern. My biggest concern with automatic lockers is the unexpected locking and unlocking. When my Detroit unlocks on dry pavement it makes the back of the Jeep wag like a dog's tail. Because of this I don't drive the Jeep on slick roads. I consider the Rover to be a real snow porsche, and I would hate to think what an automatic locker would do the good slick road handling of the Rover. I know it is a lot of money, but you can't beat the ARB. The aussies make a good locker. I have not any trouble with the ARB in the Jeep. When I have the coin for lockers in the Rover, they will be ARB. | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) New Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 32 Registered: 09-2003 |
Thanks for the advice. What's your opinion on a limited slip in the rear for the occasional off-roader? Is it worth the money?? It seems like the torque application only provides 25% torque to the stable tire and 75% torque to the slipping tire. Will this greatly improve the vehicles ability to climb or traverse terrain. (I also have a 2" lift and 32 inch tires) | ||
| Kris Carlquist (Kris_carlquist) New Member Username: Kris_carlquist Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2003 |
I have never run anything but a hard locker, so I really don't have any experience with a limited slip. I know guys that have them, and they think they work quite well. I think for the occasional off-roader they are probably adequte. Another trick, is the ultimate poor man's limited slip, the brake pedal. It is really pretty easy with an auto transmission. When you get in a situation where you have a tire slippping, press the brake pedal and give it a little gas, (kind of like power braking, but you don't want the wheel slippage). This of course applies the brakes on all wheels, but it also helps transfer the torque to the tires that have traction. It is like poor man's traction control. Give it a try and see what you think. | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) New Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 33 Registered: 09-2003 |
Ive used the brake pedal method once or twice and it did work. I just wanted something to provide better traction on steep hills and other uneven terrain. Maybe Ill get a limited slip. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1167 Registered: 02-2003 |
the problem with an EZ lockeris is still retains the weak factory carrier and cross pin from the stock unit. ther is no strength advatage and more stress. i dont think they make it for rover anyway rd | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1129 Registered: 09-2002 |
an EZ locker is not the same as a Detroit - it is a cheaper version that uses stock carrier and cross-pin. The "teeth" on the rings are larger and spaced wider than in a Detroit, making the engagement and disengagement much harsher. It works without a doubt as a locker, and allows for some crazy stuff. But you'll break your axles quick, or shear the pin, or [insert your own preference]. So, IMHO, it's awful on the street (unless your purpose is to intimidate the passers-by), and not that great off-road. I've replaced one with a tight limited slip, and only noticed minor decline in performance off road (but now I can have my transfer case together for a bit longer). | ||
| Bruce Potier (Brucep) Member Username: Brucep Post Number: 86 Registered: 06-2003 |
Think about it for a second, torqued-up drivetrain and brakes applied too??? Poor man's locker = shortened CV life & half shafts. Gotta be very gentle with that approach and with ABS, makes it worse as the ABS unit makes the drivetrain shutter in cross-axle scenarios. PML as a common practice, no thanks. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1130 Registered: 09-2002 |
With ABS disabled, left-foot-brake is a great practice. Much easier on the drivetrain than an automatic locker (although not nearly as capable). | ||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 789 Registered: 08-2002 |
Disable the ABS too. IMO always a good idea offroad. | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) New Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 34 Registered: 09-2003 |
Is a limited slip like the truetrac a decent option?? I just spent $3000 on a new t-case so Im not looking for anything that will cause more damage or stress to the drive train. | ||
| Kris Carlquist (Kris_carlquist) New Member Username: Kris_carlquist Post Number: 10 Registered: 09-2003 |
I have to agree, with ABS the brake pedal is not optiaml, but in a pinch it can work. I suppose the best way to disable the ABS is to pull the fuse? | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) New Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 35 Registered: 09-2003 |
Anything to worry about after installing a truetrac l.s rear????????? |
