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Clay W Davis (Cwdavis4)
New Member Username: Cwdavis4
Post Number: 23 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 07:53 pm: |
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I was thinking about installing an attitude indicator (tells the degree you are leaning). I have seen some low-tech ones (ie lev-o-gauge http://www.roverparts.com/Catalog/offroad_misc.html) but would like something more hi-tech. I know this is more of a gadget but thought it would be interesting to see how far you are pushing your LR. |
   
Erik Olson (Jon)
Senior Member Username: Jon
Post Number: 496 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 09:55 pm: |
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SmartTool makes a digital one for the building trade for about $150 if you really want to go wild - it measures to less than a tenth of a degree. Or, try to source one of the analog ones they used to put into Mitsubishi Montero (Series 1) on the center console. It will be in a three-guage cluster that included oil pressure and water temperature if memory serves... e
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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 398 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:22 pm: |
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I like the lev-o-guages. They are way cheaper at a boating store than thru a truck dealer. Now, I DID use 3M aircraft grade plastic velcro. Put a strip on the backs of them, then a strip on passenger door and also to the dash where it is visible just above and to the right side of steering wheel. Just push the guages on the velcro and they are on securely. I like the 3M velcro b/c it is not really noticable and I can take the lev-o-guages off when I don't want them there and just pop them back on when I need them. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 86 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:26 pm: |
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go with the lev-o 's. Easy to read when your wondering why you havn't rolled over. And Jamie's idea with the velcro i'm going to steal and use |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 885 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:51 pm: |
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I have found the Ohshitometer works really well. It is super easy to install and is always accurate. |
   
Steve Cooper (Scrover)
Senior Member Username: Scrover
Post Number: 554 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:13 am: |
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I prefer the "no Daddy no" ometer strapped in the back seat. It's saved my ass numerous times. I'm almost afraid to leave home without it (them) SC |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 864 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:16 am: |
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I've use the "holy sh*t!" datemeter before. Works quite well.  |
   
Adam Ross (Discodriveradam)
Member Username: Discodriveradam
Post Number: 110 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:29 am: |
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Got a couple of Lev-O-Gauges now, but a good indicator I used to use was the widening of the eyes of on-lookers. Some real classics, let me tell ya. |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 889 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 02:09 am: |
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Steve, Unfortunately my Nondaddynoometer is faulty. For some reason it seems to read in reverse and only encourages slopes that freak the Ohshitometer out. -Curtis |
   
Tom V (Cozmo)
Member Username: Cozmo
Post Number: 190 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:37 am: |
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Curtis I seem to have the same problem. Mine only laughs and says yeah yeah do it |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 550 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:03 am: |
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Am I the only one that noticed this says ATTITUDE and not ALTITUDE? |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 891 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:06 am: |
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Sus, Attitude is the correct term... -C |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 551 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:12 am: |
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well, i guess it's not altitude....I thought about it after I posted...but why attitude? This is what I got when I looked it up...I apologize for not knowing there was another usage. However, this is for aircraft...perhaps we should say Rovitude or Landitude?! "The orientation of an aircraft's axes relative to a reference line or plane, such as the horizon." "The orientation of a spacecraft relative to its direction of motion" |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 552 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:16 am: |
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I'm always here to learn. Thanks for the correction Curtis! |
   
Curtis N (Curtis)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis
Post Number: 892 Registered: 05-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:24 am: |
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You know - you do have a point since the term is ususally used in aviation. Now you have me wordering. Maybe Rovertilt might be a better word... |
   
SSV (Susannah)
Senior Member Username: Susannah
Post Number: 553 Registered: 06-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:28 am: |
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Sounds good...a new term has been coined!  |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 2137 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:34 am: |
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Altitude: if you reach some sort of altitude (meaning wheels off the deck), well then you have much bigger problems to worry about. In fact I would say you are hosed. Attitude: Good Attitude = a thumbs up gesture. Bad Attitude = an issuing of the middle finger for all to see.
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Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 781 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:17 am: |
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Actually, that's a cool idea. An attitude indicator typically will show two axes, pitch and roll (turn indicator will show the third, yaw-skid/slip). It'd be novel to have both in a truck. It guess two lev-o-guages would do, one mounted longitudinally and one horizontally. Still be hard to see both at once when you're in the heat of the moment. |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 2138 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:26 am: |
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Like the old Isuzu Troopers in the '80s. They had a gyro on the dash.
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Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 865 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:32 am: |
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I use two lev-o-guages mounted the way Michael says but like he also indicates, when things get a bit harry, you're more focussed on other things than what your guages are saying. I've found old Land Cruiser/Jeep attitude indicators before that have both pitch and roll features in one. They all stop at 30* though so decided to go with lev-o-guages, not that I plan on going past 30 very often but it's nice that the guages account for it. |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 866 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:36 am: |
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Yea, that's what they're called, "gyros". |
   
Art Bitterman (Aardvark)
Member Username: Aardvark
Post Number: 79 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:46 am: |
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Gauges? We don' need no steeken gauges! (sorry!) Normally if my spincter is puckered up, I know I'm leaning a tad bit! Normally get a clue when the stuff on the dash ends up on the other side! Art 1960 SII "Aardvark" |
   
Andrew Maier (Newman)
Senior Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 391 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:54 am: |
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Amen Art! I thought a gyro was what you eat at 3am after leaving the bar! Andy |
   
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy
Post Number: 2139 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:10 pm: |
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No Andrew, What you eat at 3am after the Bar is usually from White Castle, Dell Taco, Green Burrito, and the list goes on  |
   
Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
Senior Member Username: Andythoma
Post Number: 489 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 01:06 pm: |
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Actually if you have leather seats you already have a factory built attitude meter. I slide all over my seats at any angle greater than 10 degrees. That's when I hit built in angle counter action restaint system. You know mash your foot on the dead pedal and push yourself back into the seat as hard as possible while hanging onto the center console or window frame depending on the direction of the roll. |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 92 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:52 pm: |
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Well if you have money to burn this thing is awesome. http://www.anywheremap.com/pages/ai.htm Sure looks better than those cheesy levogauges. I'd love to have one. Too bad they cost a small fortune. Oh well, I've only had my AI fail a couple times. Luckily never in the clouds.
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Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 94 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:24 pm: |
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$2095 on sale!!!It is very cool, though |
   
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d
Post Number: 997 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:50 pm: |
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what is a solid state gyro? |
   
Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
Member Username: Ian95rrc
Post Number: 93 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:04 pm: |
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They use micro-electronic mechanical sensors (MEMS) to replace the spinning rotor gyros. The MEMS gyros and companion accelerometers keep track of rate of change in aircraft attitude and heading and thus compute actual attitude and heading. In contrast, a spinning rotor gyro remains stable in space while its gimbals allow the airplane to move around the gyroscope. The problem with normal gyroscopes is that they tumble if you do any aggressive maneuvers. Like +60 degrees of pitch or bank. Actually, most stability control systems use some sort of solid state gyro to figure out what the vehicle is doing. It would be neat if someone came up with a system that used the stability control system to display an attitude indicator on the dash or nav display. I think just plain old pucker factor is probably the best bet.
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Andrew Maier (Newman)
Senior Member Username: Newman
Post Number: 393 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:47 pm: |
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And you don't have to visually monitor the amount of pucker to determine when you're going from the "yellow" into the "red." In fact, it's kinda gross to think of ever visually monitoring the amount of pucker! Andy |