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Clay W Davis (Cwdavis4)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was thinking about installing an attitude indicator (tells the degree you are leaning). I have seen some low-tech ones (ie lev-o-gauge http://www.roverparts.com/Catalog/offroad_misc.html) but would like something more hi-tech.

I know this is more of a gadget but thought it would be interesting to see how far you are pushing your LR.
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
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Post Number: 496
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

SmartTool makes a digital one for the building trade for about $150 if you really want to go wild - it measures to less than a tenth of a degree.

Or, try to source one of the analog ones they used to put into Mitsubishi Montero (Series 1) on the center console. It will be in a three-guage cluster that included oil pressure and water temperature if memory serves...

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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
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Post Number: 398
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I like the lev-o-guages. They are way cheaper at a boating store than thru a truck dealer.

Now, I DID use 3M aircraft grade plastic velcro. Put a strip on the backs of them, then a strip on passenger door and also to the dash where it is visible just above and to the right side of steering wheel. Just push the guages on the velcro and they are on securely.

I like the 3M velcro b/c it is not really noticable and I can take the lev-o-guages off when I don't want them there and just pop them back on when I need them.
 

Lewis Jones (Cutter)
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

go with the lev-o 's. Easy to read when your wondering why you havn't rolled over. And Jamie's idea with the velcro i'm going to steal and use:-)
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Post Number: 885
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Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have found the Ohshitometer works really well. It is super easy to install and is always accurate.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 554
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I prefer the "no Daddy no" ometer strapped in the back seat. It's saved my ass numerous times. I'm almost afraid to leave home without it (them) :-)

SC
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Post Number: 864
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've use the "holy sh*t!" datemeter before. Works quite well. :-)
 

Adam Ross (Discodriveradam)
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Got a couple of Lev-O-Gauges now, but a good indicator I used to use was the widening of the eyes of on-lookers. Some real classics, let me tell ya.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Post Number: 889
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve,

Unfortunately my Nondaddynoometer is faulty. For some reason it seems to read in reverse and only encourages slopes that freak the Ohshitometer out.

-Curtis
 

Tom V (Cozmo)
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Post Number: 190
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Curtis I seem to have the same problem. Mine only laughs and says yeah yeah do it
 

SSV (Susannah)
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Post Number: 550
Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Am I the only one that noticed this says ATTITUDE and not ALTITUDE?
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sus,

Attitude is the correct term...

-C
 

SSV (Susannah)
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Post Number: 551
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well, i guess it's not altitude....I thought about it after I posted...but why attitude?
This is what I got when I looked it up...I apologize for not knowing there was another usage. However, this is for aircraft...perhaps we should say Rovitude or Landitude?!

"The orientation of an aircraft's axes relative to a reference line or plane, such as the horizon."

"The orientation of a spacecraft relative to its direction of motion"
 

SSV (Susannah)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm always here to learn.
Thanks for the correction Curtis!
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You know - you do have a point since the term is ususally used in aviation.

Now you have me wordering. Maybe Rovertilt might be a better word...
 

SSV (Susannah)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sounds good...a new term has been coined! :-)
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Post Number: 2137
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Altitude: if you reach some sort of altitude (meaning wheels off the deck), well then you have much bigger problems to worry about. In fact I would say you are hosed.

Attitude: Good Attitude = a thumbs up gesture. Bad Attitude = an issuing of the middle finger for all to see.

 

Michael Noe (Noee)
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Post Number: 781
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually, that's a cool idea. An attitude indicator typically will show two axes, pitch and roll (turn indicator will show the third, yaw-skid/slip).

It'd be novel to have both in a truck. It guess two lev-o-guages would do, one mounted longitudinally and one horizontally. Still be hard to see both at once when you're in the heat of the moment.
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Like the old Isuzu Troopers in the '80s. They had a gyro on the dash.

 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Post Number: 865
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I use two lev-o-guages mounted the way Michael says but like he also indicates, when things get a bit harry, you're more focussed on other things than what your guages are saying.

I've found old Land Cruiser/Jeep attitude indicators before that have both pitch and roll features in one. They all stop at 30* though so decided to go with lev-o-guages, not that I plan on going past 30 very often but it's nice that the guages account for it.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Post Number: 866
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yea, that's what they're called, "gyros".
 

Art Bitterman (Aardvark)
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gauges?

We don' need no steeken gauges!

(sorry!)

Normally if my spincter is puckered up, I know I'm leaning a tad bit!

Normally get a clue when the stuff on the dash ends up on the other side!

Art
1960 SII "Aardvark"
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 391
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Amen Art!

I thought a gyro was what you eat at 3am after leaving the bar! :-)



Andy
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

No Andrew,

What you eat at 3am after the Bar is usually from White Castle, Dell Taco, Green Burrito, and the list goes on :-)
 

Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
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Post Number: 489
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually if you have leather seats you already have a factory built attitude meter. I slide all over my seats at any angle greater than 10 degrees. That's when I hit built in angle counter action restaint system. You know mash your foot on the dead pedal and push yourself back into the seat as hard as possible while hanging onto the center console or window frame depending on the direction of the roll.
 

Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well if you have money to burn this thing is awesome. http://www.anywheremap.com/pages/ai.htm
Sure looks better than those cheesy levogauges. I'd love to have one. Too bad they cost a small fortune. :-(
Oh well, I've only had my AI fail a couple times. Luckily never in the clouds.


 

Lewis Jones (Cutter)
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

$2095 on sale!!!It is very cool, though:-)
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

what is a solid state gyro?
 

Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc)
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They use micro-electronic mechanical sensors (MEMS) to replace the spinning rotor gyros. The MEMS gyros and companion accelerometers keep track of rate of change in aircraft attitude and heading and thus compute actual attitude and heading. In contrast, a spinning rotor gyro remains stable in space while its gimbals allow the airplane to move around the gyroscope. The problem with normal gyroscopes is that they tumble if you do any aggressive maneuvers. Like +60 degrees of pitch or bank.

Actually, most stability control systems use some sort of solid state gyro to figure out what the vehicle is doing. It would be neat if someone came up with a system that used the stability control system to display an attitude indicator on the dash or nav display.

I think just plain old pucker factor is probably the best bet.
 

Andrew Maier (Newman)
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Post Number: 393
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And you don't have to visually monitor the amount of pucker to determine when you're going from the "yellow" into the "red." In fact, it's kinda gross to think of ever visually monitoring the amount of pucker! :-)


Andy

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