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Rob Johnson (Carolinarob)
New Member Username: Carolinarob
Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 03:49 pm: |
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I'm trying to get new tires...235/70/16. Looking at Bridgestone Dueler AT and BFGoodrich AT. The problem is Costco will not put eith one on because they are not rated "H". Any Suggestions...I don't want to get the Micheline snychrones...but that is all they say they wil put on for me. Advice? Appreciate it! |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 166 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 03:54 pm: |
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Dont tell them what car it is for, or go to another dealer. I have BFG AT's and think they are a great all around tire. A couple places would not put tires on for me, but sears did. Or order them online then just take your wheels to a place to have the tires mounted and balanced. -Rick |
   
Rob Johnson (Carolinarob)
New Member Username: Carolinarob
Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:10 pm: |
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Hey Rick, I have heard that the BFG's start to get pretty noisy around 20000 miles...what's your opinion bud? |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 168 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:41 pm: |
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I havnt had them that long yet, they are very quiet through 7K |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 880 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 04:54 pm: |
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I got BFG AT's last winter and so far they're great. Very quiet and great traction. Rob have a look at Bridgeston Dueler Revo AT's and Yokohoma Geolander AT + II. I've heard good things about them as well. I've also heard Costco being very sticky about spec ratings so I'd suggest buying the tires from them and maybe getting someone else to mount them or just go somewhere else. |
   
Rob Johnson (Carolinarob)
New Member Username: Carolinarob
Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:13 pm: |
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Rick and Alan, Thanks for the help here. I'll probably pay more by not getting 'um at Costco, but at least I'll get the tires I want. Probably go with the BFG's or Bridgestones....whichever is cheaper :o) Have a good 'un buds. |
   
Mark Albrecht (Markalbrecht)
Member Username: Markalbrecht
Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:22 pm: |
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Rob: Used to have BFG AT's for 30K+. They were very good on road, wore evenly and not noisy. My only complaint was the clicking (which you could hear even at highway speeds) from having gravel stuck in the treads. MT's will provide better off road performance with some decrease in on road ability (mainly in stopping and wet weather ability). |
   
Victor Biro (Vabiro)
New Member Username: Vabiro
Post Number: 14 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 05:26 pm: |
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Rob, I just got the Yokohama's that Alan mentioned, on my '98 Disco and I'm really happy with them. I also know of some others that have had them for much longer and rave. Victor |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 821 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:33 pm: |
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In general... BFG AT tires will not get noisey unless you wheel to the point where you take really large chunks from them, do not keep your tires balanced, do not rotate and do not watch pressure. I have run BFG MT and BFG AT. I have run the AT up to 50k miles without any noise issues. I had noise issues with the MT, but it was a result of cupping and improper balancing. Whenever you have your wheels balanced make sure they do a static/load balance (I think that is what they call it). BFG AT are definitely good tires, great on wet pavement, packed snow and moderate off road, but they will get eatin away pretty quickly by gnarrly rocks. |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 172 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 06:54 pm: |
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Brian, I do not know much about balancing tires, but i do know a fair deal about measuring the balance of propelles. We do a dynamic 2 plane balance. they stopped static balancing abotu a year ago before i got there. Does anyone do a dynamic balance on tires? or do they just consider it not worth it? I have noticed a huge difference between 1 plane static balance, and 2 plane dynamic. Dynamic is much more accurate and can be made to run smoother. |
   
Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member Username: Alan
Post Number: 881 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:53 pm: |
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Rob, The BFG AT's and Dueler Revo AT's will be similar in price. They're both a bit on the expensive side. Bridgestones might be a bit cheaper. I'll second Mark's comment about the clicking. You tend to get a lot of pebbles stuck in teh tread so you will hear clicking a lot during the summer when you have the windows down. I don't really hear anything with the windows up though. |
   
Porter Mann (Porter)
Member Username: Porter
Post Number: 89 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 07:56 pm: |
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I went with Tirerack.com, and had them drop ship the tires to a local tire and alignment place that the website recommended. They did a fine job (except for pumping the tires to 65lbs) and it costs less then what Costco would have charged me. Costco doesn't like putting on non-factory recommended sizes for some reason - probably liablility. |
   
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
Senior Member Username: Rubisco98
Post Number: 1076 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 10:59 pm: |
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Geolander At+IIs rock.. 25k on mine and they are wearing like a champ, I expect to get 50k out of them.. cheap too.. |
   
quentin charles neil ross (Qcnr)
New Member Username: Qcnr
Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 09:52 pm: |
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What about the BFG Traction TA(?) anyone with expierience of this tyre????? |
   
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie
Post Number: 2638 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 09:31 am: |
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Quentin, I put the BFG Commercial TA-traction on my wife's Disco. I thought they'd be good, the new version of the Trac-Edge.... I was wrong, I don't like 'em. They feathered out into a sawtooth pattern, they won't hold air, they've gotten REALLY loud, they're okay for dirt-roads, etc., but aren't better than ATs. Skip 'em, go with something else. Dunlop R/Ts, some MT tire, whatever you like... -L
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Trevor (Daredvl)
Member Username: Daredvl
Post Number: 106 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 12:01 pm: |
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Yokohama Geolander AT's. They are super cheap, we just had our first snow and I didn't slip or slide once.
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michael harrington (Mike97d1)
New Member Username: Mike97d1
Post Number: 20 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Saturday, November 22, 2003 - 02:03 pm: |
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i have some yoko's too.they are impresive for an AT,and they're quiet. |
   
noel Bond (93dico)
Member Username: 93dico
Post Number: 94 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Sunday, November 23, 2003 - 08:42 pm: |
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My Piralli's have done me well over the past 3yrs Noel |
   
Robert Pate (Racerx)
Member Username: Racerx
Post Number: 51 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 04:16 pm: |
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I just put some Goodyear M/T's on I love em. What a difference in looks. I had BFG AT's and I don't notice much difference in ride on the road. I got mine at Discount tire and they didn't give me any trouble. |
   
Rob Johnson (Carolinarob)
New Member Username: Carolinarob
Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 05:18 pm: |
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Love the look of Mud Terrains...but I do alot of travel to the ski slopes in winter...I think I better go with the ATs Thanks man. I'm getting 225/75/16 size. What size did you get? |
   
Robert Pate (Racerx)
Member Username: Racerx
Post Number: 52 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 06:02 pm: |
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245/70/16 |
   
Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
Moderator Username: Thediscoho
Post Number: 408 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 06:45 pm: |
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i think MTs are great AT tires. go with MTs. Ho Chung
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John Brazelton (Florida_rover)
New Member Username: Florida_rover
Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 07:46 pm: |
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Futura MT's. Cheap, look great and work; offroad and on the street.>JB 267/75/16 |
   
Chris W. (Dcwhybrew)
Member Username: Dcwhybrew
Post Number: 112 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - 08:13 pm: |
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Rob, in the event you haven't purchased a set of tires yet. Definitely go with the BFG ATs. I put them on my 96. Great tire. Get them in 245/70-16. They are a D load range tire, which is appropriate for your the Disco. The BFG AT in this size is pretty much the same size as the stock Michelins. Check the specs on Tirerack.com to see for yourself. This size wont rub either. |
   
Rob Johnson (Carolinarob)
New Member Username: Carolinarob
Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 01:22 am: |
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Thanks Chris...ordering them tomorrow...will take your advice with the AT 245/70/16s |
   
Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 827 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 01:46 am: |
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Just put the white on the inside. |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Senior Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 450 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 09:39 am: |
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I'm really bummed that Cooper stopped selling their STT and its pep boys only ...who refuse to fit the 235/85-16 on my truck. |
   
p (Pfb)
Member Username: Pfb
Post Number: 76 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 11:22 am: |
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Another big thumbs up for Geolander AT+II's. They were inexpensive (discount tire), very decent on road, did fine in the last snowstorm and seem to be wearing very well. I previously had Pirelli Scorpions, and the tread simply evaporated on them. I got less than 15K miles out of them. |
   
Brian O'Connor (Hooky)
New Member Username: Hooky
Post Number: 32 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 05:23 pm: |
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on my second set of BFG ATs. Put 86K on the first set, sold them with tread still on them. No harsh noise, will second the stone click remark from above. Wear better and longer than the GoodYear MTs I used to use and much quieter. |