| Author | Message | ||
     Ken Judson (Ken6814) New Member Username: Ken6814 Post Number: 15 Registered: 10-2003 |
I went to JiffyLube to have my oil changed. They said that they needed to flush out my oil completly because I hade a MAJOR buildu of orange sludge and a lot of moisture on the inside of my oil cap. He showed me. There was a lot and a lot of moisture in the cap. What causes this? Is it a sign of somthing bad or is Jiffy lube just trying to make more money? | ||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 131 Registered: 10-2003 |
the moisture might just be condensation. The orange sludge? My anti-freeze is orange and when there was a leak it left a orange sludge, If you have anti-freeze in the oil you have an internal water leak (and the flush out won't fix it). | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 572 Registered: 04-2001 |
It is normal, they are trying to make money. Clean your breather (if it is 94/95) and replace the breather hoses and it should clear up. An oil flush is not a good idea. Ron | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 525 Registered: 02-2003 |
what constitues an oil flush? is it like a douche for your motor? | ||
| Clif Ashley (Cta586) Senior Member Username: Cta586 Post Number: 391 Registered: 04-2002 |
I second that query. I can't say that Im familiar with an oil flush. | ||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 133 Registered: 10-2003 |
back in the 'old days' it was common to add a little transmission fluid to the oil before changing it. Add the ATF, run the engine to operating temp and drain. The idea was that the ATF would loosen up the sludge and it would drain out. Anyone else do this? What about dribbling water out of a coke bottle into the carb while the engine runs to clean the carbon off the piston tops? I feel I should add, DON'T DO THIS TODAY, this was the 70's and crappy gas, crappy cars,... | ||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2003 |
...I have no idea what Jiffy Lube would call an 'oil flush'.  | ||
| Greg Hirst (Gregh) Senior Member Username: Gregh Post Number: 365 Registered: 10-2002 |
Here's one that many dealerships use: http://www.motorlife.com | ||
| charles pastrano (Charles) Senior Member Username: Charles Post Number: 321 Registered: 08-2002 |
Oil flush at jiffy lube is just the additive intstalled before your oil change. They leave the car running for about 10 min then change the oil as usual. It wont hurt your engine may help. I just replace one quart of oil with a quart of rislone every oil change 3k without fail. | ||
| Ken Judson (Ken6814) New Member Username: Ken6814 Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2003 |
hmm I think I probably got taken for 49.95. This so called Engine flush was actually just a 10 minute additive. I remember them pouring it in and letting my engine run for 5 to 10 minutes. They then proceded to overfil my oil by 2 quarts. Idiots. I hate Jiffy Lube. The guy came running over to me with this panicked look on his face telling me how imperative it was that I allow them to flush the oil. LIARS! Thanks for the info gentlemen. | ||
| bluesman (Hywy61) Member Username: Hywy61 Post Number: 75 Registered: 02-2003 |
are you using an additive? Stuff like Duralube etc have caused a slight orange buildup on my oil cap - not a lot though. I will not use that again. This time i did use Lucas oil stabilizer - seems to be fine. | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1246 Registered: 02-2002 |
LOL - oil flush is straight kerosene!! all it does is act as a solvent within the engine and takes out all the crap (supposedly). In actuality it thins the oil considerably, and even though they only run for 10 minutes with it in - I wouldn't risk the damage Don't pay for this crap. Like Ron said check your breather and PCV valve and then switch to synthetic and over time, thinsg will clear out. Bill | ||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 580 Registered: 04-2001 |
AH BillB The voice of knowledge and reason Ron PS personally I can't see too much harm in a bit of gas/kerosene in the oil, cleaned out the D90 engine like a champ! 3000 miles and it was clear as honey this time around. But like you say why risk it? | ||
| Jay Reeves (Jay) New Member Username: Jay Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2003 |
There was another thread here that had a link to a web-page that had independent test of additives such as the Lucas oil stabilizer. Bottom line if I remember was that all it did was entrap and really wasn't good for the engine (I can't find the thread - it's maybe a month old). Question: can I switch from regular oil over to synthetic wihtout any harm? Anything special you gotta do other than change the oil? | ||
| Jay Reeves (Jay) New Member Username: Jay Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2003 |
Woops!!! That should have read "entrap air" | ||
| Alex Cabrera (Alexcabrera) Member Username: Alexcabrera Post Number: 156 Registered: 12-2002 |
I remember "Pop's" doing something like that way back in the 80's. It was a silver can that u had to punch a hole thru on top with a triangle thingy or a screwdriver. Let engine idle (I think) then drain oil. That was our flush... then flush oil down sewer drain | ||
| Mark & Bev Preston (Markp) Member Username: Markp Post Number: 242 Registered: 02-2002 |
Not sure what Jiffy Lube uses to flush the engine but here's one that works: http://www.amsoil.com/products/aef.html Amsoil suggest the engine be flushed before switching to synthetic. I have used it before without any detrimental effects to the engine. Exhaust does smell while you use it. They don't suggest driving around, just a short flush right prior to the oil change. | ||
| John Lombos (Rover4us) Member Username: Rover4us Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2003 |
I've found that "orange sludge" in my oil filler cap once after I bought my D2 (used). I cleaned it out and it hasn't been back or had any signs of it since. To add to the previously posted link on the Bilstein R2000-I've had it done to my D2 since I wasn't the original owner. The guy was kind of enough to replace the solvent in the machine so I got a frsh filter and fresh solvent. What came out of the D2 was pretty nasty. Aprx. 70 bucks well spent. P.S...has not caused any leaks due to cleaning/flush. | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 437 Registered: 11-2002 |
yep millions of truckers and 10's of thousands of fleet managers must be wrong! Lucas products are proven...have been for decades some "independent" tester can say what they will the stuff just plain works !....add a few onces to your aircompressor and listen to the difference,put a quart into a old loud Diff and hear the difference. I added it to the noisy transfercase of my 94 and my wife said "wow did you fix something?"....the stuff just plain works | ||
| D Lee Daugherty (Discondixie) New Member Username: Discondixie Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2003 |
Has anyone considered or subscribed to the theory that changing the oil filters between oil changes is very beneficial, especially for us synthetic guys. I used to do it on my boat and it seems logical that the "filter" must "filter" the bad stuff out and leave the good. Too simple? Am I missing something? My boat had 30 weight dino, not Mobil 1. Lee |
