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     Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 489 Registered: 07-2002 |
Well after having a few very bad situations with our past two beloved hounds my wife and I swore we would not get another one for a long, long time. But we are dog people and after seeing how our little daughter (8 months) interacts with them we have decided to get another family member in the near future. We are just looking at breeds now. Our all time favorite dog was my wifes mutt. Part black lab, springer spaniel and part austrailian shepard. She was the most amazing, and loving dog I have ever had the joy of knowing. She was hit by a car three years ago and not a day goes by I do not think about her and miss her. Our next dog was a pure breed Collie that our vet now takes care of because she was born with a lot of health issues and has a serious heart condition and our vet volunteered to take her and do the proceduers herself and see if she can save our collie. So far after 5 months she's doing ok but not well. Doubt the collie will live more than a year or so. We are debating between going to the pound again and picking up a puppie or getting a breed that we love. My wife and I are pretty active and want a dog that can go hiking, camping, wheeling, and just be a member of the family. After having a few large breed dogs, we are currently leaning towards a smaller one, under 40 pounds. I'd love to have an Irish Wolfhound, but just a bit to large for our small house. At the top of our list is an English Springer spaniel. Any other smaller breeds anyone would recomend? What are you favorites? Thanks, Zak | |||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 780 Registered: 02-2002 |
Zak, We have a boxer and he's VERY good with our kids (4 & 9 yrs old). I know you're looking for a smaller breed, the only thing I can advise you is, if you're going the pound route but want a pure breed dog, go after the holidays. Aparently, lots of people get dogs (pure breed) as gifts for the holidays and usually let it work out for a month. Once they find out they are really not dog people, to the pound they go. That's how we found our pure bred boxer. Good luck! Glenn | |||
| Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar) Member Username: 4x4xfar Post Number: 154 Registered: 05-2003 |
Zak, I have a Springer Spaniel that we got as a puppy from a breeder .. she is the BEST!!! but on the flip side we took a stray Springer that had "rage" , we had to put him down due to violent behavior with the little ones. So I would highly recommend the breed but be careful!! -Jim | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 490 Registered: 07-2002 |
Thanks guys. Glenn, not set on a pure breed. Mixed breeds seem to usually get the best qualities of the different breeds and tend to have less health problems. I'd just like a smaller dog. Not tiny toy size dog, but a smaller one. Jim, thanks for the info. What are some qualities to look for in a springer breeder? | |||
| Steven Ratajczyk (Stevenr) Member Username: Stevenr Post Number: 48 Registered: 05-2003 |
Zak, We have a 3 yr. old Golden Retriever. (blond with shorter hair) We got him from a breeder. He is a great family dog with lots of energy for the kind of lifestyle I lead. He is not a typical Golden with long red hair. He is fully mature at 62 lbs., with a shorter blond hair. Because we love this dog so much we have not neutered (spelling?) him so we can breed him for pick of the litter. Thats my $.02 Steven | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 265 Registered: 02-2002 |
Our boxer is great with our 2yr. old daughter. He is very protective of her and lets her walk all over him. Great Dog! Ken | |||
| Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar) Member Username: 4x4xfar Post Number: 155 Registered: 05-2003 |
$50.00 question there ,, I'll call my father in law this evening and ask "the expert". He really is very knowledgeble I'll post 11-25-2003 -Jim | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 666 Registered: 08-2002 |
"Mixed breeds seem to usually get the best qualities of the different breeds and tend to have less health problems." Thats crap Zack. Health problems in specific breed dogs only happen when people don't buy from quality breeders. You are as likely to get a dog with health problems from the pound as you to get health problems in a specific breed dog from a pet store. As to dealing with the baby, there is no way of knowing how any dog is going to behave with a child. It all depends on how the dog places the child in the pecking order. In general, but not always, working (hearding) dogs can be tough on kids as they nip at them to heard them, not always though. Sporting dogs are probably the best all around for kids, but you HAVE to have the time to exercise them. Spaniels tend to be highly strung and energetic. Guard type dogs are hard to guess at. (These are strictly my personal observations and should in no way be considered gospel or an idictment of any breed or of YOUR dog specifically, so no hate mail please, I love all dogs!) Do your homework, and you are more likely to get a good match. | |||
| Tony Brooks (Abrooks) New Member Username: Abrooks Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2003 |
I have an Australian Cattle Dog that's very good with children and great in the truck, on the trail, etc. Very smart and easily trainable, though you do have to keep their interest stimulated and exercise them. And she's smaller stands maybe 18" high but is built like a fire hydrant. | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 491 Registered: 07-2002 |
I have never heard a bad thing about a boxer. Seem like great dogs. Do you guys get back looks from people who think they are a pit bull? How large do the females get? | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 230 Registered: 03-2002 |
Aussies are very popular here in North Texas, and are great, hard core work dogs that seem very devoted to family. They are suited to the outdoors. Very smart, but you do have to keep them "working" at something. If you can handle all the attention, a German Shorthaired Pointer is a great dog. Just be sure that if you are intersated in a certain breed, do all your research up front so that you can get a good match for your lifestyle. Don't be afraid to get a dog from breed-specific rescue, or an older dog. Do a Google search for breed associations and rescue groups or go to http://www.petfinder.com. Good luck! | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 266 Registered: 02-2002 |
Zak, I have had only a couple of people give that look and think he was a pit bull. Most of the time I get "Great looking dog" or "I use to have" or "We have a boxer"! Those people walk right up and start playing with him. I think it's the same way with most same breed owners. Ken | |||
| Danno (Danno) Senior Member Username: Danno Post Number: 335 Registered: 08-2002 |
my little girl is a lab/german shepard mix and i wouldn't trade her for the world. she's about 50#. here's some doggy porn...  | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 667 Registered: 08-2002 |
Boxers llok nothing like Pit Bulls! Boxers are renowned for having hip problems due to bad breeding practices over the years. Otherwise great dogs. Make sure you research the breeder including meeting owners of animals from that breeder. Aussie Shepards are great dogs, very smart, very "busy", very loyal. The AKA is currently entertaining consideration or renaming the breed as the American Shepard as they originally came from the USA and were brought to Austrailia. | |||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 577 Registered: 04-2001 |
Zak, Sorry to hear about the previous dog experiences. I have to echo Rans, definately buy from a good breeder, strike that, buy from the BEST breeder you can find. Also try to stick to dog breeds without major issues. Puppy, as those of you who have met her, is about the healthest dog you can ask for (and stupid don't forget stupid) and I really feel the reason is that Alyssa bent over backwards to find the best breeder of goldens in our area. The people who are into it to breed the best of the best and do it because thats what they love seem to be much better than the people who are doing it on the side for a couple bucks. Ron PS its like buying a rover from an enthusiast like mine which is on the for sale board, much better than some inner city car lot or someone who does not know what they are doing. | |||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 421 Registered: 04-2003 |
Zak, The best (opinion follows) dogs that I have ever had have been mixed breed mutts. The only pure breed that I have ever had was an American Eskimo, great dog, but she got very grouchy after we had her fixed. Most of the mutts that have been dropped off at my door never seem to be anything but the best animals for my kids. (Opinion statement over) | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 492 Registered: 07-2002 |
Yes, research is key. that is why I am starting now. We are not going to be getting a puppy for a few months now but I am going to do the leg work starting now. I have had quite a few dogs since I was a kid and so us at least the mutts/mixed breeds were always teh best. I love dogs as well and love so many different breeds. If all breeds had no health issues and lived the same time I'd have a wolfhound or Great Dane. Love the large, tall breeds. Thanks for the info. I've been on a few rescue sites already and there is a large dog rescue fair near my house every year. How does one go about finding the "Best" breeder? | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 267 Registered: 02-2002 |
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| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 668 Registered: 08-2002 |
Wow, finding the best breeder...well I think Ron said it best, it's like finding the best dealer to buy from. investigate, interview, interogate. If you see someone walking along with a great looking dog, inquire. Call the local brand of the AKA. Call the ASPCA. Stop in or call the local vets. Go online and find BBS about dogs. What helps alot is to decide on a breed, then find a breeder. The more popular a breed, the more breeders you will find good and bad. Ask friends, post on land Rover boards. I think you've already started. By the way, for those that don't know me, Pembroke Welsh Corgis are the breed in our house, we have 3 and are planning to get two more next year...although we do have a 14 year old Black Dalmation as well. Ken, that is one beautiful boxer!! | |||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 581 Registered: 04-2001 |
"How does one go about finding the "Best" breeder?" Go to the national or regional breed organization and ask for a recommendation. The poeple in those organizations are hard core dog people and they will usually only recomend the best. Also go to the highest snobiest dog person or trainer and ask them. The dog thing is just like Rovers. Everyone knows everyone else who is heavily involved. Its like asking for a vendor recomendation or a reference when buying or servicing. They will be able to tell you who the Robison Service or Treasured Motors or Thatchedroof garage for your breed is. Also look at who wins in shows. Generally, the best show dogs are the best bred dogs. Usually the dog that is closest to the standard in appearance is also quite healthy (generalization but seems to play out). Ron PS also the more selective the breeder is about who they let have the dogs the better, it was harder to get puppy than to get into law school, in fact to this day I think if we would have told our breeder we were calling her puppy we would not have gotton her. | |||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2166 Registered: 02-2002 |
In my experience with Dogs, you can spend a million dollars on a pure breed animal that can end up being dumb as a bag of hammers; or you can go to the pound and rescue an animal. http://www.discoweb.org/mar2003/ppSherman.jpg That's a pic of Sherman from the Mar. He's 85 lbs of happiness that only a pound rescued shepherd / lab mix can give. We have had him for three years and dwebbers that attended Uwharrie and MAR this year can attest for his spectacular behavior at these social events. As far as kids go, every year I take him to my wife's family reunion where there are at least 25 little kids running around. These kids love to punch, pull, tug, throw shit at, ride, or whatever to Sherman and all he does is lick them. One happy damn dog. Another cool feature of Sherman is when we are one the trail or even in the driveway; I can yell, "Hey Sherman, get in the back of the Pig." Sure as shit, he jumps up into the rear cargo area. Now don't get me wrong about pure breeds. Ron & Alyssa Brown's Dog is gorgeous and fun to be around. I would be afraid to take a dog that beautiful out in the woods. Paul and 3 cents. | |||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 408 Registered: 04-2003 |
Frankly, who cares about the AKC? Snobby groups aside, pick a breed or a couple breeds, then go to a rescue group and get a dog of your chosen breed that someone gave up for a reason beyond "bites strangers" or "humps mailman's leg."  There are plenty of perfect dogs out there that are relinquished because of divorce, etc., that would make an excellent pet. Plus, these dogs are often 1 or 2 years old and are already housebroken / crate trained / semi-obedient. That said, I have a Border Collie. They are what Aussies hope to be when they grow up. Andy | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 669 Registered: 08-2002 |
 On the way to Rich Mountain at SAE Nov 2003 "Can we drive now Dad, huh, can we?" | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 268 Registered: 02-2002 |
Thanks Randy. I agree with Paul too. I had a black lab mix before Jake there. I got her at the pound and she was one smart dog. Paul, all Jake does is lick people too. That's his way of saying hello...over and over and over! I hope to get him out there next year. | |||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 815 Registered: 02-2002 |
Labs.  "Never ask a man what kind of dog he has. If he has a Lab he'll tell you, if he does not, you don't want to shame him by asking." no longer have the reference. Jaime | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 269 Registered: 02-2002 |
Great pic Randy! Those are some sharp looking dogs. Are they brothers or sisters or along that line? | |||
| Michael Judd (Mrj) New Member Username: Mrj Post Number: 16 Registered: 09-2003 |
Well I feel I have to post to defend our wonderful dog with the bad wrap. My wife and I picked-up our Amstaff puppy over two years ago from a rescue group in our area. Their were seven puppies rescued from the pound and fostered at our friends house. We went over to see them being the animal lovers we are (9 cats and 2 dogs). At the time our 2 year old shepherd/rottweiler mix had just lost her best friend due to a car accident. We knew she needed another dog to play with so I decided the get one of the pitbull puppies. At first my wife was a little concerned about this breed. After some research and talking to our vet my wife was ok with the choice I had made. This has to be one of the most loving dog breeds out there. Our 2 1/2 "pitbull" is wonderful with children and other animals. If you ever think or have thought that a pitbull is a bad dog breed, take some time to read some info on the web. These dogs have been wrongly accused way to much way to often. I believe that any dog can be classified as a biting breed. It is truly all in the way they are raised. Our pitbull is CGC certified and has completed over 5 different obedience classes and also trained for agility before she had a leg injury. I would recomend this breed to anyone. Sorry to rant but I get offended when people unjustly crucify this breed. | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 670 Registered: 08-2002 |
Rescues are great too, but there is always an element of concern there as one never knows if there was abuse involved. Regardless they are a very important group of people. Our older Corgi, not in the photo above, was a rescue and he is just about perfect! | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 493 Registered: 07-2002 |
I can understand your rant Michael, as I have met many wonderful pittbulls. But i have also seen twice what one can do to peopl.e Both were great family dogs but just turned one day. Luckly both survived (people, dogs are no longer alive) but my friends daughter will have permanent facial damage for life now. Of all the dogs I ahve had, the mutts have always been the best. Granted the "Pure" breeds have been from breeders that were not great. I like hte rescue idea. I'll do some more searching. Just still looking at different breeds for what we do. Randy, two more corki's? Damn that's a lot of dogs. But your two little ones are a lot of fun. | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 494 Registered: 07-2002 |
Oh yeah, how is Brendan doing after his surgery? | |||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 498 Registered: 02-2002 |
Finding a great breeder can be easy if you're willing to do some real legwork. We talked to people who belonged to the local Terrier club before buying our two Jack Russells. In the end, we had them brought to California from Tennessee. Naturally, we might have found a hundred dogs within as many miles, but our consultations led us east to a woman who breeds workiing Russells. Without knowing a lot about your situation, few JRT owners are likely to recommend them, but we've had a good experience with ours. Like most terriers, they are/were meant to be working dogs, and there is a large contingent of owners who fought to keep the breed out of the AKC. Now that the AKC has officially recognized the JRT, I fear that the breed quality will suffer for it. Seems that lots of dogs bred for conformation and trials (AKC, etc.) have severe health problems early in life. Like many other owners I've talked to, we had our German sheperd put to sleep for dysplasia. I also had good luck with Springer spaniels - great dogs in my opinion. We did have a bitch that was unable to deal with children. My own experience with males was 100% good around little ones. $.03 e | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 671 Registered: 08-2002 |
Brendan recovered REALLY fast! He is like a puppy again (9 years old). For those wondering, he swallowed a Perdue chicken tag and it was stuck in his stomach and blocking flow....$2k later he is in fine shape! Thanks Ken, they are brothers. We went to buy one, these two were the last of the litter, I looked at my wife and said, how the hell do we choose between them? I then asked the breeder for a group discount and bought both and saved $200!! LOL..They offroaded at MAR and at SAE with us and they seem to love it! They are only 15 months old. | |||
| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 270 Registered: 02-2002 |
It looks like you have a lot of good times ahead with them then! | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 495 Registered: 07-2002 |
Erik, thanks for the info about the JRT. I've always loved them. Growing up a friend of mine had a few that they used on their horse farm. Great dogs, and fearless. As far as "working" them, what do you mean? I have talked to quite a few people regarding some of hte larger breed of dogs, Danes, Wolfhounds etc that have had great success with these dogs as they bought them from breeders who still used them on farms etc and ran them daily. Seems like some of the breeds have been wrecked by breeding for show and not for their intended use. Real shame. JRT's are on our list, as one of the few small breeds. Where are some good places to find info regarding this breed? | |||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 554 Registered: 06-2002 |
Well, although I love purebred dogs...I have to say our best dogs have been rescues. My first dog was a shepherd mix (no idea what else) that was the perfect quiet, smart and protective mix. He was step by step with me from age 3 until about 13... My husband and I currently have 3 mixed dogs, two that live with his parents full-time and the first dog I have bought for myself. Two are black lab mixes; one is believed to be Lab/Border Collie, the other Lab/Akita. Both are great with kids. The Lab/Akita was basically raised with our niece and nephews and he is a big loveable mess. He will let them do anything to him! My dog looks and acts almost all Australian Shepherd, but some have said they think she's an English Shepherd. She was marked as both on petfinder.com, which is where I found her! She is the love of my life (oh well, husband excluded) and the absolute perfect dog. I got her when she was ~6 months; she had been raised mostly in a foster home with two young kids and she is amazing. SUPER easy to train, quiet, smart and fun. My next purebred will be a rescued Aussie. Too many people get them b/c they are cute and don't train them. I also love Bernese Mountain Dogs and will hope to have one in the future. They are like big teddy bears, but prefer cooler temps and a large place to live. Good luck in your search, but remember that most dogs can be raised with children safely, it just takes some discipline and respect on both parts! I'll post some pics next... | |||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 555 Registered: 06-2002 |
 Here's my girl, up close. There are a couple in my gallery too. | |||
| Brent Fox (Bfox) Member Username: Bfox Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2002 |
We have an English Setter we bought as a puppy. She is 11 years old now and we have absolutely fallen in love with her personality and gentle disposition. We will probably never own another breed. She is about 40 lbs. Some tend to have excess energy but ours is real laid back. The only issue we have ever had is shedding. Dogs are like farts, no one minds their own. | |||
| David Zymowski (Davidz) Member Username: Davidz Post Number: 49 Registered: 04-2003 |
I have a Brittany Spaniel,she is about 20lbs orange and white, we adopted her through a Brittany rescue organization, and i mean we adopted her. signed paper work the whole nine yards. she was just old enough to leave her momma. My last dog was a Rhodesian Ridgeback @120lbs.so i had enough ofthe big-uns. I went for the Brittany because of the size and function. i take her canoeing, wheelin, camping anywhere.very sensitive dog also. and she is great with children. must be the spaniel in her. but the Britts get my vote. | |||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 410 Registered: 04-2003 |
"Dogs are like farts, no one minds their own." That might be the second-funniest thing I've read today. Second, after this (click here if you dare) | |||
| Chris von C. (Chrisvonc) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 300 Registered: 07-2002 |
 Sus... between this pic you posted (sorry I corrected it a bit so I could see the puppy better) and the one you and I talked about months ago, that absolutely is an English Shepard. In fact when i first saw yours, I thought is was our little girl. Sorry I keep meaning to email you back some pictures of ours. I will tonight if I remeber when we get back from school with our other dog. | |||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 529 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have had some English Pointers and Setters. The ones i have had were wide open and needed to be in the "field" as much as possible. They are indeed nice dogs but I would stay away from some of the field trial oriented bloodlines they will surely cause a headache. I think they would be a nice dog to have if you had a farm or equivilent out of town away from traffic setting where you can let your dogs do what they please (one of our pointers was hit by a car). I currently have a brittany, he is a nice dog i guess he is about 10 or 11, i might add he is hell on cats. Initially in his younger years required alot of attention and time out in the country hunting, running etc. in his older years he has mellowed out a bit, but still will take off for a bit when first let out of his pen, but will return and hang around the yard. More than likely my next dog would be a blue heeler or another Brit, i assume both are about the same in terms of energy however the Blue heeler a bit more receptive to "training" | |||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 556 Registered: 06-2002 |
 Here are a couple more of her camping with my nephew!  | |||
| Erik Olson (Jon) Senior Member Username: Jon Post Number: 499 Registered: 02-2002 |
Zak, Try http://www.terrier.com for information on JRTs. That's the national organization - there should be local chapters just about anywhere you look. This page talks about "working" terriers and why they feel that it is important to the breed. http://www.terrier.com/breed/working.php3 e | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 494 Registered: 01-2003 |
"What is your favorite dog?" Well mine of course! I think this a loaded question that will never get you a straight answer from any dog lover. My only suggestion is to get two of them. Our current "kids" are from the same litter, brother and sister. Seeing how much happier they are having another pup to play with, convinces me that I will always be getting two from now on. I hate to leave them alone when my wife and I head out to work, but they play with each other and are never alone. | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 231 Registered: 03-2002 |
Great Pyrenees are great dogs, large & quiet, can live indoors without much trouble. They are typically great with other animals and make fantastic family members. Read up before you get one, and there are beaucoup rescues available out there. | |||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 404 Registered: 02-2002 |
this thread is making my mouth water. Ho Chung | |||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 139 Registered: 08-2003 |
That's just freaken funny. I hope it's not from Danno's doggy porn though;) | |||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 845 Registered: 04-2003 |
LOFL...can't take you anywhere | |||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2167 Registered: 02-2002 |
And how do you like your dog, Ho? | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 496 Registered: 01-2003 |
Hmmm ... is that why I didn't see any dogs in those iron chef showdown pictures? | |||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1233 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have a little rule about dogs myself. Let�s say it's late, better yet it's last day before Christmas and decide to go out for drinks with some people from work after at the end of the day. That last a few hours, but they are people from work and you want to go and see how your friends are doing. Perfect excuse is your hungry and want to get home the booze is getting you tipsy from lack of food. Salutations and you are off. Once in the car you realize that the hunger was more than just a convenient excuse but actually need food. As you are deciding if you�re just gassy from the beer or your stomach lining is eating itself you get a bell on your mobile phone. It�s your old pals at the bar, they are having a blast and you must join them before the "twins" leave. You rush over to the tavern forgetting about the food and hoping to get a glimpse of what your buddies are talking about. Naturally you arrive to find rowdy friends and the story of how the girls just left. You�re pretty thirsty from arguing back and forth about the week�s events and calling them all liars. Fast forward 4 hours. Karaoke time. You are up on stage singing the here comes Santa clause-tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree into great balls of fire. The cheap beer changed into expensive scotch because after all 'tis the season and it's time to celebrate. Time to take a stroll to the dunny for some relax the belt time. this is the point where you first notice the double vision, do some quick 1minute math and realize your three sheets to the wind and haven�t had a bit to eat in 8 hours excluding the carrot sticks and ranch dressing that keep burping up. After apparently falling asleep at the urinal* you stroll back out and announce it's time to go home and blabber about not eating and ranch and sleep and the yellow ribbon... No you don�t drive home you have that one responsible friend who is bailing you out. Only ten minute drive anyway. You�ll soon have food and sleep and that�s all you care to have. Friend drops you off your drift inside and has at the cupboard. Man, there is nothing there. Your ass is too cheap to buy real groceries and now you are pissed. Swearing you'll go to Sam�s club and invest in some serious rations so this doesn't happen again... ah, but what is this hidden nugget. Peanut Butter. Perfect. In your drunken haze you say screw the spoon, to hell with the bread and forge about the jelly. PB is all you need. You take the jar out into the living room turn on the tube and pig out while you fall asleep. The peanut butter is all over. Fingers, Neck, face, mouth... And now the dog. My little rule is I want a dog that no matter how inebriated, passed out or tired I might be at no point in time do I want the dog to be capable of killing me. This would include even tempting an innocent dog to eat a hole thru my neck buy trying to lick up some PB. You know those big dogs. They might be tempted to take one big bite. That could be the end. Even the smaller dogs with sharp teeth could kill you. I say stick with those smashed nose miniature ones. The geometry of there little faces just wont allow penetration into your neck, or eyeball for that matter. Of course keep the nails trimmed or almost any dog can gouge out an eye ball. what the fuck. i felt like typing. * see my story on the urinal in the archives rd | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 497 Registered: 01-2003 |
Holy crap that was funny. If it's any help, when I'm three sheets to the wind, my pups get quite worried about me, they know something is wrong with me and get quite motherly and worried. Now where do I find that urinal story? | |||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1234 Registered: 02-2003 |
../17/12495.html> read that thread. | |||
| Rick Cordova (Imx) Member Username: Imx Post Number: 69 Registered: 08-2002 |
Hey Zak! My wife and I have Three Beagles (dad, mom and daughter) they are great dogs. They love to play with kids that come to visit, and these kids are very rough w/them and they dont mind the fingers in the eyes, nose ears and yes even a poke in the butt with a stick. However you need to really think about what kind of dog you and your family want. Such as lap dog, hunting dog, sporty and size. Our dogs are 28-32 lbs. and breed size is 13 & 16. We love beagles they are very playful, smart, energetic but not overly and they are English to go with the Rover . One may say that is a the down side if they catch a scent they are gone the will follow it, sometimes its hard to keep them from wondering off but they are hunting dogs. Our dogs are AKC honestly if your not going to breed them or if your not a diehard lover of a certain breed (like us), I would look at a good mixed breed they are cheaper to purchase, pure breeds are great but you really have to know the breeder because some people will breed unhealthy dogs or polute the lines just to make a buck, this is what causes and continues health problems in certain breeds. Talk to your local Vet. & let him help you find the pick and he will know which mixed or pure breed is best for your family. And remeber "Help control the pet population have your cats and dogs nipped and tucked" Best of luck your in for a wonderful time. | |||
| John Roche (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 204 Registered: 08-2002 |
Why they bother to breed any other dogs besides Labs is a mystery to me! Best dogs in every catagory! As far as Pit bulls go (or any breed that has a reputation for being violent) I've never met a bad dog, only bad owners!!! All dogs, like all children, START OUT great. And about PURE breeds, pure breeds are bred for looks and obedience. Like supermodels they aren't usually very complex. Shallow, dumb, and useless are words that come to mind. Mutts on the other hand rock!!! I've owned purebreds (Labs) and I've been very happy with them, but mutts just have more character. Just a side note, arrogant son of a bitches NEVER own a mutt! Usually very nice, down to earth people own mutts. Good Luck and of course this is just my opinion! JRoc (a human mutt) | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 672 Registered: 08-2002 |
"Shallow, dumb, and useless are words that come to mind." What a shallow, dumb and useless comment John. But then again, as you say, you aren't purebred either! All dogs rock! | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 325 Registered: 01-2003 |
If you go purebred, go quality. As to finding the best breeder, I really did do my homework. For the recommendation thing, Ron actually has it backwards. *I* had to be recommended to the breeder before she would even talk with me. She provided hip, eye, and heart clearances for puppy, mom & dad, and grandparents. She had temperament testing for puppy and mom & dad. She had a genealogy chart going back 6 generations, and all titles held by each. She had a photographic record of all ancestors. I met mom. I met puppy. We had to go two times for interviews. She watched us interact with the dogs. We had to fill out multiple applications (with some essays!). We had to provide photos of our home (if we had lived closer, she would have come and seen our home). We had to provide work schedules. It was tough! BUT, we ended up with a dog that is so healthy and beautiful. She's happy, her fur is gorgeous, and her skin is healthy. It can be so heartbreaking to get an animal that ends up needing lots of medical attention. Some things I learned: A good breeder does not advertise. A good breeder does not put ads in the paper or signs in their yard. | |||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 407 Registered: 02-2002 |
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| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 497 Registered: 07-2002 |
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| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 499 Registered: 01-2003 |
I wonder if I can get that leash made to match the leather in my RR3? | |||
| Zak Ruck (Zak) Senior Member Username: Zak Post Number: 498 Registered: 07-2002 |
Damn Alyssa, that is one hell of an ordeal to go through for a dog. The more and more I research breeds/breeders the more I am swinging towards ones that breed for their original design and not looks/show. I have found a lot of resources for Field springer spaniels and info between the differences in breeding a field spaniel and a show one. Pretty amazing. I'm also quite interested in going to the rescues and adopting one as well. I know all about getting a "Pure" breed that is basically a puppy barn special and will not do that again. No way shape or form shall i ever get a dog from one again or a pet store or shaddy breeder. I could have bought Rons disco wit hte money i spent on a German Shepard that we had a few years ago. Beautiful pictures everyone. Love the English Shepards as well. So far our list is: English Springer Spaniel Welsh Springer Spaniel Brittany Bassett Hound Irish Wolf Hound (I want one, Mrs. won't let me) Or a good old pound/rescue special. Our main thing we want is a loving caring dog that will become part of the family, travel with us, go hiking, camping etc. Thanks agian for hte info, and the list keeps growing. | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 500 Registered: 01-2003 |
Rob, that thread was wrong and funny, you need to let post those random thought's more often. | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 326 Registered: 01-2003 |
Or the Cavalier St. Charles, which has to be the cutest damn dog ever. Of course they are $$$$. They have SUCH a sweet temperament, but are more on the toy side of things. | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 891 Registered: 09-2002 |
Couldn't agree more with about good breeders. The breeder I bought my dogs from doesn't advertise and she's refused buyers before. She's even gone as far as doing check ups on the dogs and have requested the animal to be sent back when she thought the environment wasn't right for it. | |||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 819 Registered: 02-2002 |
Zak, Alyssa brings up a interesting breed which I didn't know about before seeing it on a dog show. And they are pretty nice albeit on the smaller size. I forget exactly which dog show it is, however, it will be aired on Thanksgiving day. There are many pretty cool breeds available that are not that well known. You might want to check it out. Personally I'm disappointed on what direction show Labs are taking, yet, there still are enough breeders maintaining the hunting aspects so that they don't screw all of them up. off the  Jaime | |||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 139 Registered: 10-2003 |
I've got a full blood pug and two strays that walked up one day three years ago. I love 'em all, but please get a used dog at your local shelter. I garantee they will make you all warm and fuzzy inside!  | |||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 141 Registered: 08-2003 |
Rob, The urinal bit was pretty damn nasty! You think of that shit while you're at work or something? Nice job getting me to stop eating my lunch. Matt | |||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1241 Registered: 02-2003 |
matt, that day i just got back from getting my nails done. i must have been chatting away with the guy and took in to many fuems. i was all ramped up or something when i got home. i don't remember anything for a while and then i typed all that on discoweb that little pug can't gnaw off your neck i like them types. rd | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 327 Registered: 01-2003 |
Or the papillon! That is an adorable dog too! I've always gotten cats from the shelter, but cats don't have major issues like hip dysplasia. I was so afraid of the health issues (that could or could not be present) with a shelter dog. By getting the best bred dog I could find, we really minimized that risk. ...and it has nothing to do with the cost of medical bills, and everything to do with the emotional distress of having a pet with a problem. | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 328 Registered: 01-2003 |
Have you gone onto www.akc.com? They have a list of all the breeds, with pictures and information. They also have a breeder referral service. | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 892 Registered: 09-2002 |
my shadows...  | |||
| Tom V (Cozmo) Member Username: Cozmo Post Number: 191 Registered: 09-2002 |
I love my boxer. I love him even more now that we have a pug. | |||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 142 Registered: 08-2003 |
I've got 3 Britany Spaniels, and they are very loving dogs. The only problem is they can get a little crazy at times. We take them chucker hunting, and that usually calms them down a bit. Rob, You get your nails done! That's SOOOOOO CUTE, HAHAHAHA. Keep righting that stuff, it cracks me up. Matt | |||
| Bill Rogers (Dc_plasterer) New Member Username: Dc_plasterer Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2003 |
We've owned two Rat Terriers over the last 12 years, our lastest is a 1 1/2 year old female named Shannon. Great dog, fast as lightening and can corner like a Porche ;-)  | |||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 830 Registered: 08-2002 |
The best dog is the one that you fall in love with. Breed matters not. I have a Chesapeake Bay Retriever that is the epitome of her bread, plus a real sweet heart. I have a German Short Haired Pointer that is a rescue and neurotic, but is an incredible athlete and field dog. I love them both. Find a breed that you like and search for good blood and reputable breeders or go get a rescue or shelter dog. To me the key is to interview the dog as well as the breeder. If the dog is not healthy you should know and the breeder should help with guarantees and proof via references, bloodlines and you should see it in the parents. Get one as young as possible. Puppys should not fight you for food. Puppys should follow you when you beckon them. Puppys should be curious, not startled. Puppys should not be hand shy. Puppys should bring you the toy. Puppys should not fight nasty with a toy. Dominant or submissive> Which do you want? Dominant puppy will fight when held on its back. Submissive puppy will relax when held on it back. Call the dog and see if it comes to you. Take a toy and see if it fetches. Will it give the toy to you readily? Take a soda can of coins and throw it near the dog. Is it scared? Is it curious? Take an automatic umbrella and open it near the dog. How does it react? Scared? Curious? Take some yummy food to the dog, let it eat. Take the food away? Does it care? Rip your hand off? Just want the food back? Act like you are going to hit the dog in the face. How does it react? Scared? Does it flinch? If so it could be abused. There are a ton of books on buying dogs, I recommend glossing through a few and buying one. Puppy tests are a really good thing and choosing a good dog is an art/science and a really fun thing. Once you choose your are committed. | |||
| Brian Dickens (Bri) Senior Member Username: Bri Post Number: 832 Registered: 08-2002 |
Here is stanley the pointer.  Sometimes he thinks he's a hound, you just need to get him goin'  You can tell that the Chessy is not impressed. | |||
| Chris Browne (Chris_browne) Senior Member Username: Chris_browne Post Number: 451 Registered: 02-2003 |
We said goodbye to Maggie our English Setter and my first dog in August, the day before her 15th birthday...She was a wonderful walking buddy, a jumping bean of a dog as a youngster and such a soft disposition. She was also a great Buddy to Kezar, our special needs Golden whose happy happy disposition is available to anyone who pats her. With bad hips and front legs Kezar still manages to get around but at 8 she is slowing also. Kezar (named after a lake in Maine) misses Maggie real bad, and cried as only a dog can when I allowed her to smell maggies collar. Almost in tears as I write this...I miss Maggie | |||
| Chad Mayes (Cmayes) Member Username: Cmayes Post Number: 103 Registered: 04-2003 |
I've got a 20-mo old and two dogs, 1-pure breed 1-humane society mix. They are both great with my daughter. She literally uses both of them as playmates and jungle gyms. Chester, the mix, looks like (size, body-type, fur) a golden retriever but has the same colorings as a Rot. Lots of athletic energy. Vet said possibly a Gordon Setter mix. Who knows. But for $40 he is one of the smartest, most loyal dogs I ever owned, definitely a best friend. Willi is a pure bread Bernise Mountain Dog. She is gorgeous, but not as smart. We can't go anywhere without getting compliments. She's 85lbs of mush. She won't even wrestle with me, she simply rolls over for a belly rub. The biggest lap dog I've ever owned. A good friend and dog lover (Akita) affectionately calls her the Cuddle Slut. The point is you can spend very little or lots of money getting a dog and end up with something great. Buy a dog that fits the family's personality and lifestyle. Someone into endurance sports that wants to include the dog would probably be better off with a retriever than a bulldog. Try testing the dog�s patience (with extreme care) by approaching it when it has a bone or is eating. It's probably only a matter of time before your child will try taking the dog's dinner away while it's eating. Hope this helps. | |||
| Randy Maynard (Rans) Senior Member Username: Rans Post Number: 676 Registered: 08-2002 |
So sorry to hear of your loss Chris, it's like loosing a child or a best friend. My heart goes out to you man! | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 233 Registered: 03-2002 |
Here's the latest RoverDog, George, a Great Pyrenees pup (6 months 65 lbs). Loves to ride in the Rover and swim in the Brazos. Keeps our Pointer tired...  | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 234 Registered: 03-2002 |
Here is a dog that we are trying to adopt to a great home. His name is Blevins, a 2-3 year old low content wolfhybrid. Showed up at our ranch a little sick and thin. We had a vet treat his injuries and eradicate the heartworms. He is a great dog, we would keep him forever, but he does not like cats (we have a few). He is housetrained, loves to ride in the Rover and is healthy as a horse. He is very friendly and has traits more akin to a dog than a wolf. Would make a great companion for someone who understands the needs of these creatures. I would adopt him to a qualified home, email me at [email protected] and we can begin a dialog. Potential adopters will be required to meet certain requirements in order to adopt this big boy (now around 110 lbs). This picture was early in his recovery.  | |||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2177 Registered: 02-2002 |
What a gorgeous dog Jake! Beautiful animal for sure. | |||
| dennis clifton (Flyor) New Member Username: Flyor Post Number: 8 Registered: 05-2003 |
Coney dog, extra mustard, extra onions. No seriously, we have a yellow lab. | |||
| SSV (Susannah) Senior Member Username: Susannah Post Number: 559 Registered: 06-2002 |
Chad, please post a pic of your Bernese! I want one of those dogs soooo badly, but will wait a few years. Where did you get her? Any suggestions on looking for one in the future? Jake, I also love the Pyrenees, they are so beautiful and sweet. Great picture! | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 235 Registered: 03-2002 |
Thanks Paul, he is fitting of a great home. There are unfortunately too many Wolfdogs (and other unwanteds)around and whenever they grow past the "cute" stage, they are often dumped. We live waay out in the country and see the end result of this often. People dump the unwantwed household pet instead of adopting it or taking it to the Humane Society. They seem to think that the dog (or cat) will be able to fend for itself (they cant) or get adopted by the folk living out there (there are too many). Most end up dead from starvation, predation or hit by cars. Others are shot by ranchers to prevent them from becoming predators. It is a really piss-poor situation, where people think that a pet is disposable. We live a society where we live for the moment and when that thing we coveted becomes in any way trouble we shit-can it. I hope that this stops one day, but I am not optomistic. Sorry for the rant, but this subject is near & dear to me. | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 502 Registered: 01-2003 |
Jake - I actually have 2 Wolf-Hybrids that we adopted because we couldn't stand seeing them neglected. They were our ex-neighbors puppys, they didn't abuse them, just left them out in the yard to fend for themselves. My wife took pitty on them and started playing with them. They fell in love with her and she with them. Talk about special need puppy's. My wife and I agreed if we couldn't control them we would put them down, thankfully it all worked out. Hybrids are very pack oriented and need to be inside animals. They need a den (our house)and tons of love. They are funny creatures, they don't live with us as much as they accept us as their pack alpha's. We don't own them, we had to make them part of our pack. Fellow Dwebbers have meet them and can vouch for me that they are wonderful creatures. They don't let just anyone pet them, they have to accept you first, otherwise they tend to ignore you. I wouldn't recogmend a Hybrid for everyone, they need lots of hikes, need to live inside, need structure, they need someone to realize they are never going to act like a pug or lab. Funny thing is my wife wanted an AKC golden lab. I didn't want any dog at all. But these two made us both fall in love with them so we had to save them, for nothing more than some contended sighs and a few licks. | |||
| Chad Mayes (Cmayes) Member Username: Cmayes Post Number: 104 Registered: 04-2003 |
Susannah - I don't have any pictures at the office but I'll send one when I get home. We got Willi from a breeder in Oregon about an hour southeast of Portland in the Columbia River Gorge. The only suggestion I have is to find a responsible breeder that pays close attention to bloodlines with respect to hip problems. Willi is healthy as a bear and doesn't have any problems. The breeder we got her from requires that you spay or neuter your pup unless you can show you are very knowledgeable about Bernie breading practices; she's trying to limit the cases of hip problems due to poor breeding practices. Her website is http://www.bernesemtndogs.net Chad. | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 236 Registered: 03-2002 |
true words Andy, all true. our guys LOVES my wife, all kisses and wanting belly rubs, and defers to me as "alpha". He abosulutely loves being indoors and spreading out on the couch (all of it). They are VERY DIFFERENT from either a dog or a wolf. We love our big guy, just can't keep him becuase of the cat issue and the bigger fact that several nieghbors love to shoot these guys, thinking that they are pre-emptively protecting the local goat herds. He is truly a magnificant creature, when he looks at us with those yellow eyes, it evokes a very primitive feeling deep in some unused part of the brain.... | |||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 503 Registered: 01-2003 |
"He is truly a magnificant creature, when he looks at us with those yellow eyes, it evokes a very primitive feeling deep in some unused part of the brain...." Yes, I know that stare, it's like they are thinking about something. I also love the way they are in absolute bliss by just getting the chance to run in the woods. I love to watch them, satisfies some primal urge somewhere. Of course they could be thinking about Rob's garlic bread or chewing through my creek for some PB, but I guess I'll never know. | |||
| Jake Hartley (Jake) Member Username: Jake Post Number: 238 Registered: 03-2002 |
there it is. in lies the mystery, and thus the pleasure of being around one of these guys. | |||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1147 Registered: 09-2002 |
Randy, I wonder if you're a dog breeder. It is known that the older the dog breed is, the more likely the health problems arise - just because there were so many years of cross-breeding within the same gene pool. The great danes and shepherds are good examples - not that I've seen hundreds of either, but I haven't seen a german shepherd over 10 years of age without hip problems. That said... my heart is with the terriers!  | |||
| Bill Rogers (Dc_plasterer) New Member Username: Dc_plasterer Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2003 |
Peter, I raised a few litters of Airdales and owned one or more for over a 20 year period, they are great companions! | |||
| Brian O'Connor (Hooky) New Member Username: Hooky Post Number: 27 Registered: 09-2003 |
Zak, A lot of good comments made here! Once you figure out what type/breed of dog you think is going to be good for you the next piece that will ensure the experience will be a good one is proper training and socialization! Whether you choose a male/female, pup, or older dog the thing that makes having the dog a pleasure can all come back to training and socialization - if you have picked a breed that is in line with your lifestyle and wants/needs. Be sure to check with breeders even if you aren�t interested in a pup, often times they have �retired� dogs that make great companions, and as said somewhere in the thread don�t forget to check into breed specific rescue efforts � there are many great dogs in need of homes. http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm http://www.dogsbestfriend.com/ http://americanbrittanyrescue.org/ (My wife and I volunteers with ABR) I have been involved with dog rescue, show dogs (CDX), training dogs, taught obedience and agility classes all in some capacity over the past 24 years. Please feel free to contact me with any information you may need. B | |||
| Robert Pate (Racerx) Member Username: Racerx Post Number: 56 Registered: 08-2003 |
I have had an Irish Setter, a Boxer, and now have a Lab. The Irish Setter we saved from the pound, he was a great loving dog BUT he loved to do what he was breed to do and that was run all day looking for birds. Bottom line turn your back and he was gone he would be miles away by the time we found him. The Boxer we got from a family member that could not keep him any more. That dog was a mess. He never stoped jumping, running, and destroying things. We had him from age 3 until he died at 7. I have been told that Boxers don't live long lives but Im not sure about that. The Black Lab we got from our vet who is a breeder. I wanted a dog that I did not have worry about running off and was told that Labs tend want to stay by you. I was also told that females tend to even roam less than males. So we ended up with Black female lab we named Molly. She has been the best dog by far. Not to say that she was not destructive when she was a puppy she was. Now she is 5 and has mellowed out. Her favorit thing in life is dive for rocks. It's so funny you toss a rock in the water she swims to where it splashed, the head goes under, then the body, then all you see is her tail, then that goes under, she will stay under for about 10 seconds or until she gets a rock. Im sold on Labs. | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 329 Registered: 01-2003 |
This is my baby, Fluffy Puppy. (albeit a little squashed from the shrinking of the pic)  | |||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1148 Registered: 09-2002 |
Bill, since I was a kid, we've had an irish setter, a fox terrier, a dachshund, and an airedale. My brother has a fox terrier, and my mom - a german hunting terrier (jagdterrier, if that's how they spell it). Out of all, the only dog that I got to decide on the breed was the airedale, and I have never regretted it a nanosecond. Speaking of companionship, he's absolutely the best dog I've seen to take along on a long drive. The breeder I've got him from was from Washington state; he mentioned that his mother and other offspring seemed to be self-limiting in food. I didn't quite believe him - but the dog keeps himself in a great shape. Leave the bowl full of quibble in the morning, and he won't touch it until somebody gets home! | |||
| Tim (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 590 Registered: 12-2002 |
Zak- We have a 3-year old 70 lb. female Berner. She was purchased from a reputable breeder but still developed elbow problems which we presently treat with buffered aspirin on occassion. She is very loyal and likes to lean directly on you and be in your face constantly! She seldom barks except for chewies or to ask to go outside. As a watch dog she would never make the grade because she approaches everyone as a friend. Overall she is not very intelligent, sheds an unbeliveable amount of hair and knocks things over with her big wagging tail constantly. However if you want a big, goofy, fluffy friend, a Berner fits the bill. My former dog was a male Black Lab/Mix who I miss dearly. He lived to almost 12 years old and at the end of his life he was still chasing frisbee's in a legcast! However the cancer in his leg got the best of him and he went downhill quickly when it spread to his lungs. I believe I have as many pictures of him as my kids. What a great buddy he was, I will remember him always.  Tim | |||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 418 Registered: 05-2003 |
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| ken knebusch (Charlotterover) Senior Member Username: Charlotterover Post Number: 277 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jamie, My folks have 3. A Blue Merle(sp), Tri-color and a Black and white. Great dogs! Yours are beautiful. The Blue Merle made it into one of those dog calendars. Ken | |||
| Daniel McElroy (Danielm60660) Member Username: Danielm60660 Post Number: 42 Registered: 05-2003 |
I have 6 dogs, three at home and three at my kennel. At home two Rotties and a Pitbull (mix). At the shop an American Bulldog, Boxer/Pit and American Bulldog/Rottweiler mix-all six rescued. With good training almost any dog can be a good companion. I am a huge fan of the Pitbull as a smaller companion dog even with childred. Don't believe the media!!! They have been bred NOT to bite humans even in the course of a dogfight. (ugly truth, but truth none the less) How many people do you know who have been been bitten by their own dog while breaking up a fight? Also they have a very high pain tolerance so an accidental step on the tail or pull on the ear is generally ignored. They are generally very healthy with skin problems being the most common health issue. Finally for outdoor activities there are few dogs with a greater energy level, more athletic ability or fearlessness to go anywhere/do anything with you. As with any animal there is a downside: A Pitbull may not do well with other animals and will probably not be able to handle the extreme cold. Finally, whatever dog you choose, invest in formal obedience and/or pick up a few good books. Leader of the Pack,Understanding Dog Mind and How to Speak Dog are three of the best I have read. I recommend these books to all of my clients. | |||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 591 Registered: 04-2001 |
"This is my baby, Fluffy Puppy. (albeit a little squashed from the shrinking of the pic)" LOL I was thinking that looked like puppy only flatter. Ron | |||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 440 Registered: 11-2002 |
I have been waiting over a year and a half for a puppie outa this big stud  and what a great thanksgiving it is!  Having spent the better part of my life with large breeds such as rotties and labs around I have to echo advice above.Picking the best breeder is very important and A great dog is worth waiting for | |||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 152 Registered: 08-2003 |
everybody has nice dogs, but what do you think of my pet?
Matt | |||
| Tim (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 596 Registered: 12-2002 |
Long ago someone posted the picture I have displayed below. I thought it was such a cute dog I saved the pic on my HD. We are considering a smaller sized dog in the spring to accompany our Berner. What specific type of Pug is this one? Also what are the traits, drawbacks ect. to Pug ownership?  | |||
| Jack Quinlan (Jsq) Senior Member Username: Jsq Post Number: 497 Registered: 10-2002 |
On many days, like today for example, the Disco transports Madeline and I to where the birds are!   | |||
| Bill Rogers (Dc_plasterer) New Member Username: Dc_plasterer Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2003 |
Quote: "what are the traits, drawbacks ect. to Pug ownership?" Well, first you have to break them of chasing parked cars! ;-) | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 933 Registered: 09-2002 |
Tim (Snowman), There aren't specific types of Pugs perse. They're just grouped by color so either black or fawn. That one you have above is a fawn one. They look slightly different from the blacks in that their snouts (if you want to call it that) are a bit more pronounced. The black ones have more smushed in faces. Personalities on a general level are slightly different between colors. Black ones tend to be a bit more rambuncious or trouble-makers while the fawn ones are more gentle and affectionate (all pugs are affectionate but the fawn ones tend to be more snuggly if that's a way to describe them). If you want more info, email me ([email protected]). I'll help you as much as I can. For your info, I have two black pugs (male and female). My sister has two pugs as well but one fawn, and one black. | |||
| Phil deGuzman (Powerslide) New Member Username: Powerslide Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2003 |
I like Rottweilers. They are very loyal, protective, smart but head strong. | |||
| Tom V (Cozmo) Member Username: Cozmo Post Number: 193 Registered: 09-2002 |
Oh great Alan, now you tell me, I was hoping my insane black pug puppy was going to grow out of it. Next you'll tell me getting the cut doesn't help either. | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 935 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hehe...he'll be interesting nonetheless. LOL, the "cut" will stop any humping tendancies but it doesn't alter their behaviour a dramatically. They may be a bit calmer but their personality is pretty much the same. My boy didn't get cut until 3.5 y/o (he was a stud dog before I bought him) so he sometimes still humps out of habit (not overly discriminant either) but it's rare now. But his presonality hasn't changed very much though. Here's my boy getting in the Xmas spirit:  | |||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 346 Registered: 01-2003 |
That is one funny pic. | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 939 Registered: 09-2002 |
He wasn't overly impressed but I couldn't stop laughing long enough to take it off so he had it on for about 20 minutes. | |||
| Tim (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 609 Registered: 12-2002 |
Is that a Pugalope? Tim | |||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 201 Registered: 08-2003 |
He's a "discoweb raindeerpug." He helps Discoweb Santa deliver Dweb T-shirts, stickers, and Rubicon videos. | |||
| Paul Kleinschnitz (Rovrjnky) New Member Username: Rovrjnky Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2003 |
Great Danes are excellent family dogs and suprisingly agile on the trail as well!!!  | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 972 Registered: 09-2002 |
Those are cool dogs. Certainly the "gentle giant" profile. | |||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 500 Registered: 11-2002 |
I used to live in upper NJ I was out running a couple of my rotties in the Ramapo mts. as I was cumming up a trail a lady in her 80's was comming the other way with a huge brindle Dane. The Dane broke to a full run straight at me and my dogs dragging the woman on her face down the trail. i put both my dogs in a sit stay and intercepted the Dane in full stride. It took me a good couple min. to convince the Dane that he was going to stay there and not eat me or my dogs. I couldent get anyone to help because my dogs were sitting there intence watching the scene as the Dane snarls at me and the woman is moaning in pain. A ranger finnally showed up only to be afraid to walk up because the inposing site. by that time the Dane had figured out that I meant no harm and was sitting next to the woman. but he would snarl when anyone would try to come to close to see what was going on. He really forgot about my dogs and just wanted to look after his special person now and proved that his intentions were what he was there for, to make the old womans walk in the woods safe. After the whole instance was over I had one of the great moments when I relized the hundreds and hundreds of hours of work I had put into my dogs paid off. they both stayed put for about 45 mins even when there was such a major distraction inviting them to ignore their training. I still miss all those fun walks up around the lakes,rocks and ridges of the Ramapo area.Anyone who thinks NJ is all about concrete and dirt needs a day walking in this area. MM | |||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 974 Registered: 09-2002 |
That's a good story Thom. I guess it can't be stressed enough the importance of good training, especially with big dogs like that. That lady probably wouldn't have been able to do much but the situation probably could have ended up a lot worse if the dogs got into it. Someone probably would have been going home with one less dog. The Danes I've all met have all been extremely gentle but I've always wondered what could be done if they decide to do what they want. But that could be said about a lot of the large breeds unless they've been trained well. |
