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Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Senior Member Username: Erik
Post Number: 269 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 07:24 pm: |
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My 50k mile old engine was just diagnosed as having a sticking exhaust valve. It's bad enough to give a very noticable shake to the vehicle when idling. My question is: How dangerous is it to drive it like this? What's the worst damage that could occur? How likely is it? |
   
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Senior Member Username: Erik
Post Number: 270 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:24 pm: |
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Anyone? Am I going to tear a hole in my engine block driving with a sticking valve? |
   
Will Cupp (W_cupp)
Member Username: W_cupp
Post Number: 167 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:36 pm: |
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Just run the shit out of it with some Sea Foam in there. 50,000 miles it can't be that bad could it?
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Mike M (Rangeroverhp)
Member Username: Rangeroverhp
Post Number: 78 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:47 pm: |
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Sooner or later you will bend a valve. |
   
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Senior Member Username: Erik
Post Number: 271 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 03:56 pm: |
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Actually Will, the dealer did a dual-solution cleaning, much like Sea Foam I think. Nada. Thanks Mike, that's pretty much what I was worried about. I found a shop with a competent sounding tech who'll do the job for $1500, instead of the dealer's $2300. Guess the truck will sit mostly idle til after christmas. |
   
eric johnson (Eric2)
Member Username: Eric2
Post Number: 154 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:37 pm: |
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If you were to remove the heads, a good shop should charge around $500 to $600 - absolute, highest rate in the U.S.A., for a standard valve job. Of course, since I don't own a shop, I could be full of --it. |
   
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Senior Member Username: Erik
Post Number: 272 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:56 pm: |
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Interesting, but I think that's pretty well over my level of ability. Though I did look at that procedure in my shop manual. |
   
andy coleman (Andy0826)
New Member Username: Andy0826
Post Number: 11 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:50 am: |
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I removed the heads to replace the gaskets, and it wasnt that bad, just be methodical. It took me about a day to get down to them, and half the time to put the thing back together. |
   
Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Senior Member Username: Erik
Post Number: 273 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 03:05 am: |
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Really... Did you follow the shop (or other) manual, or did you just start digging? |
   
Peter J. Kelly (Pjkbrit)
Member Username: Pjkbrit
Post Number: 58 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 09:37 am: |
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Erik....absolutely have a go yourself....it isn't rocket science and if you take the heads to an engine shop they will do a perfectly good job for you....and I cannot imagine that being more than a couple of hundred. Pete |
   
Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff)
Member Username: Geoff
Post Number: 169 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 09:59 am: |
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There are revised valves ("carbon cutting") and an update to the ECU - new chip I think - that changes the fuel map to avoid future issues. I would check into both. Try posting on the RoversNorth board. Lots of guys have done it there as well. |
   
trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
Member Username: Trevorgriffiths
Post Number: 173 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 10:31 am: |
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My machine shop shortens the valve guide where it is exposed to the exhaust stream when they perform a valve job. They charge around $300 the valve work on two heads. I have only had one success with Sea-foam treatments. I usually pressure wash the engine to avoid dropping any debris in, but I agree, the job is pretty straightforward. |