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Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
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Username: Erik

Post Number: 269
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2003 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My 50k mile old engine was just diagnosed as having a sticking exhaust valve. It's bad enough to give a very noticable shake to the vehicle when idling.

My question is: How dangerous is it to drive it like this? What's the worst damage that could occur? How likely is it?
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
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Username: Erik

Post Number: 270
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anyone? Am I going to tear a hole in my engine block driving with a sticking valve?
 

Will Cupp (W_cupp)
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Username: W_cupp

Post Number: 167
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just run the shit out of it with some Sea Foam in there.:-) 50,000 miles it can't be that bad could it?

 

Mike M (Rangeroverhp)
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Username: Rangeroverhp

Post Number: 78
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sooner or later you will bend a valve.
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
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Username: Erik

Post Number: 271
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually Will, the dealer did a dual-solution cleaning, much like Sea Foam I think. Nada.

Thanks Mike, that's pretty much what I was worried about. I found a shop with a competent sounding tech who'll do the job for $1500, instead of the dealer's $2300. Guess the truck will sit mostly idle til after christmas.
 

eric johnson (Eric2)
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Username: Eric2

Post Number: 154
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you were to remove the heads, a good shop should charge around $500 to $600 - absolute, highest rate in the U.S.A., for a standard valve job.

Of course, since I don't own a shop, I could be full of --it.
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
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Username: Erik

Post Number: 272
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Interesting, but I think that's pretty well over my level of ability. Though I did look at that procedure in my shop manual.
 

andy coleman (Andy0826)
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Username: Andy0826

Post Number: 11
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I removed the heads to replace the gaskets, and it wasnt that bad, just be methodical. It took me about a day to get down to them, and half the time to put the thing back together.
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
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Username: Erik

Post Number: 273
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 03:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Really... Did you follow the shop (or other) manual, or did you just start digging?
 

Peter J. Kelly (Pjkbrit)
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Username: Pjkbrit

Post Number: 58
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Erik....absolutely have a go yourself....it isn't rocket science and if you take the heads to an engine shop they will do a perfectly good job for you....and I cannot imagine that being more than a couple of hundred.
Pete
 

Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff)
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Username: Geoff

Post Number: 169
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There are revised valves ("carbon cutting") and an update to the ECU - new chip I think - that changes the fuel map to avoid future issues. I would check into both.

Try posting on the RoversNorth board. Lots of guys have done it there as well.
 

trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
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Username: Trevorgriffiths

Post Number: 173
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My machine shop shortens the valve guide where it is exposed to the exhaust stream when they perform a valve job. They charge around $300 the valve work on two heads.
I have only had one success with Sea-foam treatments.
I usually pressure wash the engine to avoid dropping any debris in, but I agree, the job is pretty straightforward.

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