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Lee Morris (Longball4)
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Username: Longball4

Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Had an offer of a 2003 disco SE with 10k for $28k, Right color, right everything but it was a service loaner. I know this may have been covered b4 but whats the harm in saving $4.5k with full warranty? Do fellow rover drivers beat these things?
 

Robb Sundmaker (Robb)
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Username: Robb

Post Number: 121
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I bought a loaner (1998 Disco I) from the dealer with less than 2,000 miles on it and it has been a great car for me so I would not worry about that.

I am just thinking that maybe you could get a better price. I thought that they were already offering discounts for the 2003s still sitting on the lot that were not loaners. I could be wrong about the price though. That could be a great price.

There was a recent thread about prices and discounts being offered right now.
 

John W (Disco_gold)
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Username: Disco_gold

Post Number: 13
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A friend of mine and I both bought dealer loaners from Land Rover Las Vegas. We both got great deals, low mileage and factory warranty. Neiter of us have had any problems with them. I have been recommending them to anyone interested.
 

Lance Doyle (Discokayaker)
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Username: Discokayaker

Post Number: 12
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just purchased a 2004 Disco and the rebates as of 3 weeks ago are as folows:

2003 Discos: $4500 factory rebate
2004 Discos: $1500 factory rebate

I believe these only apply to new/never registered vehicles. Service loaners/employee cars would not be eligable for the rebate. I don't know where you are located but in the SF Bay Area you could probably take a few thousand off MSRP plus the rebate.

Good Hunting,
Lance
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Username: Alyssa

Post Number: 330
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lee, you are getting an AMAZING deal on a service loaner. We sell them all the time, and they are fine. It is a really great way to save money. Depending on where you live, they are most likely still new & untitled, which means you can still take advantage of the 100% depreciation for small business owners.
Just really look over the car for damage. Make sure there is a CD cartridge, owner's manual, knobs for the power seats, arm rest caps, and cup holder inserts. Those things tend to go missing from loaners. Make sure they do the 7500 service (if appropriate). Check to see if the tire on the back door is pushed in. Check the endcaps for scrapes.
...and make sure they do a really good detail.
and a "few thousand off MSRP plus the rebate" is not going to happen. At absolute most, MAYBE $2000 off + rebate, but only if the dealer is desperate & you are in their territory. $1000 off + rebate is really the best you can hope for. And the rebate isn't valid if you are using LRCG for financing or leasing.
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Username: Alyssa

Post Number: 331
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh, and just so you understand, you are getting the REMAINDER of the factory warranty, not a full 4 years and 50,000 miles. You have to find out when the in-service date is. Your warranty will expire 4 years from that date.
 

martin podgorski (Mpodgorski)
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Username: Mpodgorski

Post Number: 30
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

wow, a se with 10k for 28 grand, that is a smoken deal. service loaners are a good buy for first time rover owners, you get a great discount off of sticker where you wouldnt be if it where new. Then you become a owner and get the ability to use owner loyalty towards your next rover.
As for the condition, you will have a vehicle driven by land rover owners, so the vehicle will be in good working condition. At the dealer I work for, we usually do the 7500 service before the vehicle is delivered and do a quality check the day of the delivery (cd cartridge, cigarette lighter, etc.)
The vehicle will look just like a new one, you are getting a great deal and you will be treated as if you are buying a new discovery .
cheers, best of luck
martin
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 946
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I bought a "program car" that had been previously driven my a BMW exec back in the BMW days. It was a fully loaded 2000 SE with 9900 miles on the clock. Alyssa is right in that it is the remianing factory warranty, but we extended ours by 12 months/12K miles for about $500 if I recall. They wanted $35K for the rig, but gave me $23K trade on my Mercedes which was worth maybe $17.5K. All in all I paid about $31K for a loaded SE that is warranted until 62000 miles (or January '05). The rig retailed for about $41.5K at the time.

All in all there are some great deals when a few miles are put on.

Curtis
 

Robb Sundmaker (Robb)
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Username: Robb

Post Number: 122
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To add to a point Alyssa was stating regarding whether or not the car had been titled:

If the car was titled by the dealer then you will only get used car interest rates and not new car interest rates.

The one I bought had less than 2,000 miles but was already titled by the dealer so make sure you know before you buy it. I showed up at the dealer with a shock from my credit union because the car had been titled before. My interest rate jumped from 6.9% to 9.0% making my monthly payment more than I could afford. I had to sit at the dealer and talk to my credit union and convince them that they had to give me 6.9% which they ended up doing.

The credit union's complaint was that I told them the car was new (which I thought it was because it was a loaner, I did not know about this issue of whether or not it was titled affecting it's classification of being a used or new car).

Disclaimer: This was five years ago. I was right out of college and this was my first time buying a car.
 

martin podgorski (Mpodgorski)
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Username: Mpodgorski

Post Number: 31
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Another point to make is that rover dealerships stock ex enterprise and hertz rentals, these vehicles have previous titles on them. The nice thing that LRCG does on these is give the same interest rate as on a new one. But going through a credit union, I think that all that matters is the model year of the rover.
The ex loaners though should not have been titled, another way of finding this all out is run a car fax on the truck.
 

Bill Rogers (Dc_plasterer)
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Username: Dc_plasterer

Post Number: 25
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

All said and done, your price is still about $2,200 less than I've been able to get my dealer in Maryland down to on the same vehicle w/ 5,200 miles on it.
 

Max Thomason (Lrmax)
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Username: Lrmax

Post Number: 269
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

FWIW, loaners in general are pretty good rigs. As said before, make sure everything is there. People do take things out of loaner rigs. Just double check. Loaners get cleaned everytime they are used so the interior for the most part is going to be good. Then every month or so they get a good quality scrubbing, so that helps. Most loaner rigs don't get totally trashed by the people who own them.

Even so, every once in a while one person will tear up the inside. But it doesn't happen frequently. I'l suggest that you go over it and check to make sure everything is in good shape, and if it isn't then decide if you're ok with it. Remember, it is a used car.

As for exec vehicles, expecially those from execs at the dealership get EXTRA special attention. These trucks are always perfect. If you can get ahold of one of these, it will be good. Once again, these trucks get washed every week and ALL spots are removed and in general everything is perfect. Thus, cosmetically these are the best used vehicles.

So, thats my take on it.

Max T.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 915
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll throw in my $.02 on this topic. I bought my 98 D1 3 years ago that was driven by a LR exec for LR Canada. It was in immaculate condition, never off-roaded, had a burl wood kit added to it and sold for a very good price. I'd do it again if I had a chance.

Don't forget, for the most part, the typical Rover owner is of the soccer-mom variety so the vehicles are never driven very hard.
 

Lee Morris (Longball4)
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Username: Longball4

Post Number: 7
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks, Everyone for the advice. Just came home with my 03 service loaner. I searched hi and lo for pricing and that was the best deal by far for the SE. you can find S models all over for less $$.

It's soo diferent from my 99 D2. The strange thing is that it looks the same, but it drives so much different. The biggest thing I notice is the power between 35 and 65 mph!

Alyssa... a quick question, does the extended warranty cost less if you buy it now (when there is still factory warranty left) or can you wait until 40k and pay the same price?

Thanks, DiscoWeb!!
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Username: Alyssa

Post Number: 334
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Lee, it's cheaper now (before 15 months or 15,000 miles) than later. The price between 15/15 and the end of warranty will be the same. One of the main benefits (which is in hindsight now) is that you can finance your warranty at the time you buy your car, buy not at any other time.

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