| Author | Message | ||
     Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1081 Registered: 02-2002 |
Anyone? I can get the screen to defrost, but there's always some big chunk of ice scraping across 3% of the screen, and worse still it builds up over time. Anyone had luck with a heating wrap or something? | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 193 Registered: 05-2003 |
This will be my first winter with the Disco 2. I thought the heated windscreen would eliminate all that. oh well... How about these: http://www.blizzardblade.com/ or these: http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/02october/rostra_wiper_blades.asp or these: http://www.microheat.com/hotshot/why.asp | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 541 Registered: 02-2003 |
whats next heated tires? | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 195 Registered: 05-2003 |
No, you need the heated steering wheel first. (Although they were recalled on my father's Audi A6 because they were getting too hot and people couldn't touch the wheel) | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1591 Registered: 04-2002 |
I asked for heated steering wheel on my Bimmer but that was the one option they left out.  My windscreen has been getting worse and worse over time as elements no longer heat up. I now have 3 6-8" bands that still work. Having heated blades would sure help. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1288 Registered: 02-2003 |
the pisser juice is heated right? i just go to town with that until it melts or drive day and night with the annoying chunk sliding away. _I do not scrape_ 9" this morning  yay rd | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1084 Registered: 02-2002 |
The pisser juice, as you call it, is not heated! At least if it is I didn't see any heating elements and it still freezes up. Its the ice on the back of the blades that builds up into a block, that rubs on the screen. It won't come off with a squirt! Jamil I'm gonna check those sites now, thanks for the info. Dean | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1294 Registered: 02-2003 |
dean i think it gets run in next to the radiator somehow. maybe its a range rover thing. it would be very easy to do yourself if you wanted to coil some spare hose around your rad or something like that. that's my best suggestion. rob | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1598 Registered: 04-2002 |
Rob, you might need to swap the stock hose for some copper or aluminium tube to do that. Either way, by the time it hits the windshield I don't think it will do much. And if it did get hot enough you might have issues with thermal stress on the glass (just a guess since I'm no expert on the thermal dynamic properties of glass). Some other cars, and since BMW did the new Rangie it may apply there too, have heated wiper parking on the windshield. But I don't know how much that would have helped in the situations I've run into. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1088 Registered: 02-2002 |
Rob, I'm with Al here, I can't see that heating the liquid is gonna do anything for the block of ice on the wiper arm. I guess I'llhave to keep breaking the ice off every time I get in, and keep using a frig-load of wiper fluid. Its $0.99 a galon for christ sake! That's cheaper than most spring water lol. Just wish I could put it in the gas tank | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 419 Registered: 04-2003 |
Get tough, people. Get out there and hack that ice off, and tutn the defroster on high heat, and quit crying about it being a little cold...or park in a heated garage. Sheesh. | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1601 Registered: 04-2002 |
Andrew, you must live in a warm climate or not get out in the nasty stuff often ;) I've had blocks of ice build up while driving with the heated windshield and defroster on. There were times I even tried keeping the inside of the vehicle cold so nothing would melt to freeze back into a block of ice but it didn't work. I just `slap' that wiper at each red light but it gets to be a pain if you're out all day in the stuff. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 421 Registered: 04-2003 |
Milwaukee, Wisconsin - hardly a warm climate. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1296 Registered: 02-2003 |
true with the broken windshield but it will be ice free... | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1089 Registered: 02-2002 |
Al - did you try the air con that day? Maybe that's all it needed | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1604 Registered: 04-2002 |
Yes... I've tried that too... and even though I was freezing myself the windshield was a mess. It did slow down the mess but it wasn't worth the price. | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1567 Registered: 11-2003 |
Dean, are you talking about ice building up inside the wiper arm? For example, it freezes up and the blade deforms and no longer wipes the windshield? If so, there are winter wipers available that have a rubber boot around the frame to prevent that. I just sold a pair. Also, try the orange wiper fluid. The deicer stuff. It works pretty well, and in combination with the heated windshield and winter wiper blades I didn't have much problem the past two years in philly. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem though. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 828 Registered: 02-2002 |
RD, it is a RR thing - Classics from 1989 on have heated washer jets which when working along with the heated windshield really is a cool Winter item. heated locks also come in handy during that freezing rain shit we always get. guessing the other RRs do as well. Jaime | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 829 Registered: 02-2002 |
Dean, check-out: http://www.blizzardblade.com/ http://www.hotwipers.com/ Jaime | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 422 Registered: 04-2003 |
A D90 friend of mine says Disco owners who complain about this are pussies, and that "buying a man's truck" like a D90 would cure the ice problem. He makes 2 good points: (1) Complaining about ice buildup in the winter is pretty weak; and (2) Getting a D90 or something like it with an aggressive (i.e., more vertical) and smaller windshield would go a long way toward curing the "problem." I agree with him. Toughen up, people -- it's a truck, not a damned luxury car. | ||
| Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco Post Number: 1605 Registered: 04-2002 |
I'll be sure to run out and buy a D90 as soon as it's imported back into the US in it's current form. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 936 Registered: 09-2002 |
For ice/snow build up on the blades, just get some winter blades. They have a rubber casing around the blade so ice and snow doesn't get caught between the blade arms and jam things up. Works quite well. For ice between the blade and glass, I just give my blades a snap against the windshield before I drive off and the ice usually falls off. The wiper blades aren't the prettiest in the world but they work and also good for mud stuff. Protects the blades very well. Here's a pic of winter blades.  | ||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1569 Registered: 11-2003 |
Thats the ones I was talking about. Worked well for me. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1309 Registered: 02-2003 |
i think what dean is talking about is when you get a slice of ice under the blade or you get some ice crust parked on top, bottom or under the blade. you'll be cruising down the highway and this belligerent piece of ice decides to ruin the drive by smearing your windshield. you either have to pull over and remove or wind the window down and try to punch it off. if it's in the right spot it will actually cause road rage for me. except it is my own car i am pissed at. then i drive crazy aiming at pot holes and defects in the road in an attempt to loosen the ice nd show it whos boss. it can be hell rd | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1095 Registered: 02-2002 |
LOL that is so fucking true Rob! Been there done that. I'l try the winter blades, I didn't know there were such things. Or maybe I should just wait, as Andrew said, until I become a manly man like him, then I can drive like a blind fucker into the sun and not care that I'm a complete prick.... | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 425 Registered: 04-2003 |
They must not get much snow/ice in Jersey for you to never have heard of winter blades, Dean... Here's what people in the snowy part of the country do: Scrape their windshields while truck is first running, beat those blades on said windshield to knock off accumulated ice, use copious amounts of de-icing windshield fluid, and run the defroster on high heat to melt whatever's left. There's a little switch on the right steering column stalk that makes the wipers move faster, which I've found helps with the clearing process too. What ever did you do when you had the Series trucks? Not drive them when it was raining for fear of maybe having to run the wipers? And I'm positive winter driving was out with those things -- they probably didn't even have "delay" wipers! | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1101 Registered: 02-2002 |
Look, you can talk to me til the end of time with that condescending attitude, but I'll still have ice on my wiper arms unless I do something. All I was looking for was a cheap Napa or Pep Boys arm heater I can plug into the cigy lighter, run through the door, and clamp onto the arm. I have destroyed too many blades to warrant spending $200 on a fancy setup just to trash it again in the pine barrens. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 426 Registered: 04-2003 |
If you knew what you were looking for, why ask here? Any attitude I have is a combination of (1) Listening to people whine about snow and ice on their trucks in wintertime and (2) You calling me a prick. Sarcasm begets sarcasm, Dean. | ||
| Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc) Member Username: Ian95rrc Post Number: 103 Registered: 03-2003 |
Things could be worse guys....  | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1103 Registered: 02-2002 |
Ian - what is that? Andrew - I generally don't resort to such language, but for fuck sake can't I ask a damn question here? If you're gonna add something of value, then fine, but if you just want to bitch and call everyone with iced up wipers "pussies" that should "toughen up", well then you are just plain rude and stupid.... | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 831 Registered: 02-2002 |
actually LR installed a heated windshield in the NADA 109 SW to help address the poor ass defrost system. Jaime  | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 427 Registered: 04-2003 |
Here's a helpful solution to the "cold wiper blades problem." Take 4 12 guage wires, run them to a 12V DC plug (two red to the +, 2 black to the -). Or for people living in colder weather climes, attach to battery -- 2 red to the positive terminal, 2 black to the negative. Attach terminals to the wiper arms, attach one red and one black to the wiprer arms. Attach the other two to your testicles. Suddenly the "cold wiper blades problem" is several steps down on a priority scale...hardly a problem at all! There. Helpfulness. | ||
| Ian Kreidich (Ian95rrc) Member Username: Ian95rrc Post Number: 104 Registered: 03-2003 |
Thats a detachable electric windshield anti-ice panel. Basically it allows you to land an aircraft looking through a 9x19 inch hole through an otherwise completely iced over windshield. It's not very fun to pop out of the clouds 200 ft above the runway an have to look out a tiny ass window to land. Especially when you're already stressed about the fact that you were in icing conditions. Obviously not too practical a rover. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1105 Registered: 02-2002 |
Andrew, well there we are, ample proof that you are indeed a prick. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 428 Registered: 04-2003 |
Oh gee, I'm sorry Dean. I apologize for reacting sarcastically to you asking a question you knew the answer to. I also apologize for posting my friend's response to me describing this thread, and I apologize for agreeing with him. Now I have ample proof that you, among others, need to toughen up -- or in my friends' words, a "pussy." And for having to point that out, I am sorry. No wonder people who want to do things with their trucks, rather than attach the cool gizmo to get rid of ice on the windshield, flock to other boards. Andy | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1106 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yeah you're right Andrew, I dont do anything to my truck. But looking at your last sentence, WTF are you doing on this board? lol | ||
| Glenn Guinto (Glenn) Senior Member Username: Glenn Post Number: 787 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damn Dean... whatever you did seems to have tied up Andy's panties in a bunch here. With all due respect, the thread is simply Dean asking for a suggestion/recommendation on a specific issue he's had/having. You however butting in with a "Look at me, I'm tough, you guys are pussies" attitude is simply uncalled for. Let the thread be and if you don't like it, there's the little "x" in the upper right hand corner of your screen that you can click. It also seems to me that you are mocking people's ideas in making their trucks a bit more "livable" in the winter season. What's wrong with that? And what is up with dragging a "D90 owner friend". Who gives a rats ass what a D90 owner thinks... the guy is getting annoyed with ice on his wipers and he's asking for a simple solution. This is a bulletin board where questions like these gets asked. If you feel like this board is ruining your "macho image"... then by all means, it doens't cost money to leave. Grow some hair on your chest and go to the other boards Glenn | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 429 Registered: 04-2003 |
Why am I here reading this drivel? Not sure. I use D-Web as a resource for repairs, etc. and for ideas in how to make my truck go farther down the trail than last time. I'm not looking for a review of the latest Snap-On tool, or the newest gizmo to do what can be done with hands and an ice scraper. You're misreading me, Glenn. I'm not saying "Look at me, I'm tough!" -- far from it. I'm saying that there are certain things that are unavoidable and are really not that bad (compared to, say, electricity in the gonads). For people to spend 4+ days discussing how to rig up some fancy means to do what an ice scraper can do is a bit ridiculous. I see it as akin to a thread with "I know I can use a breaker bar to loosen lug nuts, but how could I make an electric version? Turning that breaker bar really chafes my hide while I'm on the trail with a flat." Would you make fun of someone who said "Toughen up and turn the damn breaker bar, people"? I think not. Finally, Glenn, this board does not ruin my "macho image" in the least. I don't need a computer bulletin board to feel complete (unlike others), and I have plenty o' chest hair. Andy | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1107 Registered: 02-2002 |
Andrew - you are un-fucking-believable! FACT: My wipers DO get crusted up, and I drive into the SUN on my way back and forth from work. I cant see a fucking thing sometimes and I have to get out and clean the ice chunks off of the arms. Maybe I should be a tough guy like you and drive blind, putting my baby daughter in danger, along with everyone else on the narrow iced up road I have to go along every day. Or just jump out every few miles and break the ice off with my manly bare hands. I'd rather be a pussy and get something to solve my problem. I'll leave being a tough guy / jerk / ignoramus to you. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 430 Registered: 04-2003 |
Tough guy? LOL -- I already said I'm not. Ignoramus? LOL Ignoramus = Ignorant person (or when a grand jury doesn't return a True Bill on an Indictment). Ignorant = Lacking in knowledge or education. I live in freakin' Wisconsin, and grew up in Michigan -- certainly I've gained both education and knowledge in wintertime driving conditions! I also learned to wear sunglasses and use the visor, and to slow down in bad conditions. If my simple solution (which, although unspoken, begins with driving carefully and ends with an ice scraper) is too difficult for you, I fail to see how it's my problem. Go head and wire up a Jiffy Pop Land Rover Genuine Sahara Kalahari Heated Windshield Wiper, Dean, I don't care. Just don't come complaining to anyone here when the wiring shorts out your heat or lights or whatever, or when the rubber wiper blades catch on fire and subject you and other drivers to danger. Andy | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1109 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'll be sure to remember next time I'm driving blind on the highway, that I am indeed safe from the danger of my wiper blades catching fire Peace, please. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 431 Registered: 04-2003 |
You got it. *offers hand* | ||
| Chris von C. (Chrisvonc) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Chrisvonc Post Number: 315 Registered: 07-2002 |
"Why am I here reading this drivel?" Andrew, I dont know, but if it's annoying you, STOP FUCKING READING IT and move to another thread. | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 213 Registered: 05-2003 |
"I don't need a computer bulletin board to feel complete (unlike others), and I have plenty o' chest hair." Clearly you do since you are arguing nonsense on a discussion board. I agree with Chirs. Please take his advice. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1110 Registered: 02-2002 |
OK. | ||
| Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche) Member Username: Jamooche Post Number: 214 Registered: 05-2003 |
that wasn't for you Dean...it was for Andrew. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1111 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jamil - I know that I was accepting the hand shake. | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 432 Registered: 04-2003 |
We'll have to let the stragglers react first and realize the conversation has ended. | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1320 Registered: 02-2003 |
this is wierd.. you guys are posting in the future. http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Eastern/d/-5 rd | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1112 Registered: 02-2002 |
ok it says 18:06 right now on my computer.... | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1113 Registered: 02-2002 |
WTF you're right Rob! Is it the bios time? Surely it cant be that can it? | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 724 Registered: 02-2002 |
I think it's the server box's time. You all are posting in the future for me here on the Left Coast. It's 3:14 PM here now. It'd be nice to have Discus accomodate time-zones, ala vBulletin. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1114 Registered: 02-2002 |
Craig - no I think he means the minutes are out, not the hours.... | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 725 Registered: 02-2002 |
true, it is 15 minutes fast but for me it's 3 hours and 15 minutes fast | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1321 Registered: 02-2003 |
i love the internet. that time site linked me to a site about the history of Daylight Saving Time. I love useless facts like this. http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/index.html a quote from page three regarding the opposition to Daylight Saving Time. A writer in 1947 wrote, "I don't really care how time is reckoned so long as there is some agreement about it, but I object to being told that I am saving daylight when my reason tells me that I am doing nothing of the kind. I even object to the implication that I am wasting something valuable if I stay in bed after the sun has risen. As an admirer of moonlight I resent the bossy insistence of those who want to reduce my time for enjoying it. At the back of the Daylight Saving scheme I detect the bony, blue-fingered hand of Puritanism, eager to push people into bed earlier, and get them up earlier, to make them healthy, wealthy and wise in spite of themselves." (Robertson Davies, The Diary of Samuel Marchbanks, 1947, XIX, Sunday.) | ||
| Sean Roche (Crazy_fish) New Member Username: Crazy_fish Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just wondering if Andrew has 'updated" or 'improved' or 'enhanced' his vehicle in anyway over stock. If the answer is yes, what's the difference between your mods and what Dean is trying to do? What the mod may be helping/curing could be much different but the theory is the same. Disagreeing with a proceedure, or having a bad experience with a product/service, and passing on that information is great. Isn't one of the great things about Land Rovers is playing with them. on them and in them? Quick side note, NJ and MD have some of the worst amounts of ice in any given year. Still in the 'winter' belt but too close to a warm ocean produce more ice storms than any other state. I think NJ has 5 out of last 10, MD was 3 and I forget who the others were. Thanks for your time | ||
| Sean Roche (Crazy_fish) New Member Username: Crazy_fish Post Number: 11 Registered: 10-2003 |
Dean Mount one of these to your hood http://www.shop.store.yahoo.com/air-n-water/poroilfirhea1.html | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1115 Registered: 02-2002 |
Sean - I think that might actually do the trick! Nice quote Rob! Pretty modern for the 50s | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 434 Registered: 04-2003 |
Sean: You're about 10 hours too late to play. Or is it 10 hours and 15 minutes? | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1324 Registered: 02-2003 |
dean, your internal clock is still off, it was the 40's or did you know that... rd |
