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Some One (Papillon)
New Member Username: Papillon
Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 08:50 pm: |
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Hi all, Many years ago I had a series I LR with a diesel engine and a custom fitted snowplow. This little "beast" did a great job! Today, I own a 94 Discovery and wondered if it was possible to fit a plow to it. Who makes a plow for the discovery? All advice, comments and wise cracks will be welcomed. Thanks, Papillon |
   
Victor Biro (Vabiro)
New Member Username: Vabiro
Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 09:12 pm: |
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Why not buy an old jeep instead of destroying a perfectly good Discovery? |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 219 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 09:32 pm: |
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If you want to drive a jeep, buy a jeep. But being as how you own a disco, you probably dont want to drive a jeep. There are many plows available to mount on a hitch, either front or back. Warn makes a front Hitch reciever for a D1. Here are 2 plows i found by doing a quick search on yahoo. http://www.truckaccessoriesworld.com/snow-plows/features.htm http://www.superplow.com as far as a commercial style one on hydrolic lifts or whatever they have, i havent seen one, but im sure its possible with some custom mounting. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 152 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 10:07 pm: |
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okay...that superplow rear plow is stupid |
   
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d
Post Number: 1085 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:05 pm: |
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I wonder if there is any way to get a front receiver hitch onto a RTE bumper? |
   
EricV (Bender2033)
Senior Member Username: Bender2033
Post Number: 269 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2003 - 11:53 pm: |
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Lewis, did you read the super plow site at all? Did you watch the video? I admit, at first glance to seems kinda silly, but watch the video .. it appears to work very well. |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 455 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 01:09 am: |
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quote:okay...that superplow rear plow is stupid
guess you have never heard of a Danials pull plow. anyone who has plowed snow for a living knows how awsome pull plows are. I would love to have one for my disco they do a great job and stress the truck much much less then a conventional front mounted plow. |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 456 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 01:22 am: |
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read this |
   
Pete Stefano (Pete_s)
Member Username: Pete_s
Post Number: 90 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:13 am: |
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Rear plows are good, but I still don't like them. I plow with my uncle sometimes for his company. I drive a F-550 with a Fisher 10 foot plow and believe me once you step on the snow and it gets hard-packed, there is no way you are gonna get to the ground with the plow. Thats why a plow is better up front, the plow touchs the snow first and not your tires and makes it easier. As far as stressing out the truck, don't plow with small SUVs unless you have a really small driveway and its not over 6 inches of snow cause once you start getting snow over the top of the plow, thats big boy truck domain. I won't plow with my Disco IMHO, anyway the plow mount would be to low to the ground and you will lose approach angle. Also the Disco won't last long plowing. |
   
Papillon (Papillon)
New Member Username: Papillon
Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:41 am: |
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Your posts are very helpful, thanks. First, let me say that I only intend to do my own driveway and not plow commercially. Hopefully this would not destroy my Discovery. I have been doing my own reasearch and found another "tail-dragger" snowplow which seems to have advantages over the Superplow and Daniels models (ie., higher lift, blade angle control, and easier installation--no hydrolics to hook up). For those interested more info can be found at: http://www.snowmansnowplow.com/sport-util.php Still, I wonder how well these rear plows really work. I can see the "back-dragging" advantage in close quarters, but how do you push the snow out of the way to make room for future storms? Yes I saw the Superplow video...but that was a small amount of snow so I remain unconvinced. I also don't like the idea of driving over the snow and packing it down before the plow reaches it. Does anyone have first hand experience or knowledge with these plows? Thanks again Papillon |
   
Papillon (Papillon)
New Member Username: Papillon
Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:55 am: |
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Pete s, Thanks for your post. Does the rear plow that you use apply down-pressure on the blade? Also could you move the snow out of the way by pushing it back with a rear plow? Papillon
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Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 221 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:31 am: |
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Or what about getting a front mounted plow and just put it on the rear hitch and drive backwards. That solves the problems of running over it first, and pushing it out of the way. |
   
Pete Stefano (Pete_s)
Member Username: Pete_s
Post Number: 91 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:41 am: |
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It does not apply pressure but even if it did the plow would not be able to scrape the snow that you had stepped on with your truck therefore leaving two tire lines up and down your driveway. But then again no plow really gets down to the asphalt, there is always going to be some snow/ice left over. In terms of pushing the snow out of the way, you could if the particular type of mount is strong enough. If it mounts to your trailer hitch you can push the snow, but use caution because first you can't see as well backing up in reverse, two if the snow is high and you push the plow too far it might go up and over the mound of snow which means your stuck and it doesn't matter thats its a "Land Rover" YOU WILL BE STUCK! |
   
Victor Biro (Vabiro)
New Member Username: Vabiro
Post Number: 37 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 11:48 am: |
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Rick, I agree, if he wants to drive a Land Rover, he should drive one. Not to put too fine a point on it, I wasn't suggesting that Papillon "Drive" a jeep. I was suggesting that he get a junker (You can get a jeep cherokee for around $800 here) that would be a lot cheaper to repair than a Disco. As Rick pointed out, front mounted snow plows can destroy the front-end components. Repairing that dammage on a Jeep would be significantly less expensive on a '87 Jeep than at '94 Discovery. Not to mention, finding snow plows for jeeps and other NA vehicles is much easier. Victor
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thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 457 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 04:01 pm: |
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I started plowing snow at 16 years old in Wisconsin, I plowed for a friends fathers company that plowed everthying from huge supermall parking lots to small residential single strip driveways. for the big lots we drove 5 ton axled 2wd bobtail tractors with 14' winged blades. for trim there was always a couple f250's with 10'WESTERNS with a AC condensor coil cooling the back in the bed with a salt spreader and a PULL PLOW. For the medium and large residential and small comercial sites the F250's were hard to beat ,but for the really tiny stuff he always had a few Jeep Commandos with straight 6 turbo 400 trans D44 axles and nothing but a Pull Plow. these small rigs could clear driveways at warp speed. they could do 10 standard driveways in the time a well set up pickup could do 5 to 6. All you did was back in to the top of the drive drop the plow and drive out. one more pass if it a wide drive. there would rarely be two strips left unless that perfect snowman snow was around . Plus in spring the amount of damage to the customers driveway and lawn next to the driveway was way less with the pull plow then a standard plow. Are pull plows the end all?...no but they are simple to hook up and use, inexpensive very capable of clearing driveways for personal use. plus they dont run the risk with air bags that front mounted systems do. so if someone would want a personal snow blade I think a rear monted pull plow makes alot of sense. IMHO MM |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 159 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:13 pm: |
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okay!! I have never plowed snow (being from Texas) but driving over snow that your going to plow doesn't make the best sense. And about videos...I once saw a video of a flying saucer, it didn't impress me either... |
   
Christopher Dynak (Adtoolco)
Senior Member Username: Adtoolco
Post Number: 346 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:32 am: |
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Listen to Musky he REALLY knows these things. After shoveling two 6 vehicle driveways with 2 feet of snowman snow I am really considering that pull plow. My only question is what do you do with the snow if the street has already been plowed? Normally the pushers just keep going but with the puller wouldn't you leave snow in the middle of the road? |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Senior Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 473 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 12:37 am: |
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www.mysnowsport.com |
   
Brian O'Connor (Hooky)
Member Username: Hooky
Post Number: 43 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 07:22 pm: |
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Fisher's rock, and so do sno-way snowplows! http://www.cet.com/~wiltrek/snowplow.html check out the Predator Series. Have used Westerns and a few other brands. The Fisher trip mech is great, and the sno-way plow is a blast to use, very fast and easy to control. B
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Steve Smith (Ssmith1027)
New Member Username: Ssmith1027
Post Number: 10 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:33 pm: |
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Just some rambling thoughts here. I don't know about plowing snow. It never snows in the Sierra. Well actually it does but I always used a 480 or 580 case to clear the driveway. You don't have to buy a plow if the tractor is available. That pull plow looks like it would be good for road grading though. I think it would work like a box scraper behind a small tractor. Let it float and flatten the road as you go. Better than dragging a piece of chain link fence behind the truck. I've seen CalTrans clearing snow at 50 mph I wonder if I could grade a road traveling that fast? A big rock would sure make for an abrut stop. Oh well, back to the home. |
   
Jon Button (J_button)
New Member Username: J_button
Post Number: 6 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 11:48 pm: |
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I think you have to consider what your application is prior to picking one of many solutions offered. Personally I think you'd have a hard time seeing what is going on behind you. Definately post some footage of the Disco Plowing snow! |