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Nick A. (Nick)
New Member Username: Nick
Post Number: 36 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:28 pm: |
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Anyone have a solution for this problem.The top socket and immediadte area melts after a while went through 2 already.How much if I need one from a dealer in a hurry?Also what is the best price around.Does anyone make a 12 volt LED that will fit in there or some other type of bulb that burns cooler than the 1157? Thanks in advance.. |
   
james (Check38)
New Member Username: Check38
Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:44 pm: |
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Yeah, that can be a pain in the ass. I had to damn near rip mine out with some needle nose vicegrips. I do however remember calling the dealer to get a quote. They were kind of expensive (Roughly $50) for me anyway. Good Luck! |
   
james (Check38)
New Member Username: Check38
Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 09:50 pm: |
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Yeah, that can be a pain in the ass. I had to damn near rip mine out with some needle nose vice grips. I called the dealer and do remember them being kinda expensive (roughly $50) for me anyway. Good Luck. I would also be interested in a solution to fix the melting problem |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 165 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:07 pm: |
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this isn't really an answer to the why, but street rod shops sell LED kits to change ANY light to LEDs using the stock lense. They come in various square sizes and fit pretty easy inside the stock lamp housing. And stay cool, too. |
   
charles pastrano (Charles)
Senior Member Username: Charles
Post Number: 325 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:07 pm: |
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Did you have a trailer wiring harness on? Is it an aftermarket? Have you had your brakeswitch checked? |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 166 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:24 pm: |
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www.lambertenterprises.com www.ledtaillights.com heres the place to get the LED kits to go custom. I'll be doing my DII soon and will see if Mr. Ho will let me post a tech article on it.
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Nick A. (Nick)
New Member Username: Nick
Post Number: 37 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 11:48 pm: |
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Why would a brake switch or trailer harness have anything to do with cheap plastic that melts from an 1157 light bulb? |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 177 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 01:51 am: |
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good point Nick! have the bulbs been changed to hologens? They get real hot and are only recommended for glass lenses. |
   
Nick A. (Nick)
New Member Username: Nick
Post Number: 38 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 01:39 pm: |
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All I use is the stock 1157 bulb,I was actually trying to find out if there is a cooler burning bulb and if anyone has tried it.An LED would be ideal if the signals would work properly and it would fit into the tail light housing.Anyone try something or does everyone just keep replacing the tail light assembly? |
   
charles pastrano (Charles)
Senior Member Username: Charles
Post Number: 327 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 01:50 pm: |
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Sometimes when a brakes switch malfunctions as mine did it malfunctions in the on position leaving the brake lights on. After a few times pressing the brake hard it will release the switch and turn it off. My wires and sockets all melted. My guess is your problem doesnt lie in the cheap plastic if you have gone through two already. Charles |
   
trevor griffiths (Trevorgriffiths)
Member Username: Trevorgriffiths
Post Number: 177 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 03:29 pm: |
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We have seen a number of Discos with the same condition. Generally, it's a result of the bulb socket not seated correctly, allowing a poor connection to generate a lot of resistance(heat). We usually take the whole lamp cluster out, clean the contacts with something abrasive and refit the socket. Also look for a melted plastic tab that locates one of the contact strips near the bulb socket on the lamp cluster. If it has seperated, the strip isn't held in the correct position, resulting in yet another poor connection. |
   
Brian (Bthaxton)
Member Username: Bthaxton
Post Number: 49 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 11:07 pm: |
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Also, make sure your bulb is of the two-pole type. The easily mistaken single-pole bulb actually creates a connection between the two bulb socket contacts. This, in turn, causes the plastic bulb socket to become burned and unusable after a short time. How do I know this? Because I noticed that one of my brake lights was out, so I went to the dealer for a replacement. They gave me the single-pole replacement, which is wrong. I burned out the second bulb (and the socket) before I did my own research and discovered the problem. I asked for the two-pole bulb, and it has worked ever since. If you don't believe me, look in the plastic socket and see if there are two metal connector strips. Then, check the two bulbs that you have burned and see if they are single-pole. I'll bet they are. Just MHO. |
   
Jess Brandt (Disco285)
Member Username: Disco285
Post Number: 171 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 11:27 pm: |
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do you guys mean the bulbs are $50? cuz my dealership guy i've come to know gave me to bulbs and told me if i could do it myself, GOOD LUCK! they charge a ton to replace these rear bulbs because they are such a pain to get to.... D1 right... hope we are talking about the same thing... Jess |
   
Brian (Bthaxton)
Member Username: Bthaxton
Post Number: 52 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:54 pm: |
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No, the bulbs are cheap, but the plastic socket is expensive. Like I said, a (wrong) single-pole bulb will cause a short-circuit, which in turn burns the plastic socket. For some reason the socket costs beaucoup $$$$$ for what it is. |
   
Peter J Blatt (Peteb)
Senior Member Username: Peteb
Post Number: 299 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 11:41 pm: |
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I have had the same prob, Look at atlantic british, and find the complete tail light assy's for about 30.00 ea side, they are complete with bulbs, Make sure you are running the lower wattage bulbs, green package at pep boys, and finally, l.e.d. stands for light emitting diode, elec does not pass through bulb as it would in a standard bulb ( element) so therefore the led bulbs wont work without you doing some elec modification to your rig, Good luck! Peter. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 207 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:22 am: |
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l.e.d.'s work (I have 'em on my Jeep) you only have to add a flasher that works with the lower draw. I wouldn't go for the l.e.d. 1157 etc. replacement bulbs,they have to be pointing straight to look right and on some rigs like Jeeps the bulb sockets are angled. check the link I posted above for the parts to switch to l.e.d.s while still using the stock housing, they also have the correct flashers. |
   
Edward Bibb (Heirless)
Member Username: Heirless
Post Number: 63 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:36 am: |
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There is a reason for the heat buildup. Look for a short or possible constant closed circuit. Consider the bulb/socket seating suggestion or the constant brake light. |
   
Peter J Blatt (Peteb)
Senior Member Username: Peteb
Post Number: 300 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, December 12, 2003 - 06:42 am: |
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Just because a L.E.D. 1157 works in a jeep, doesn't mean that it works in a rover, one is wired in series, one is wired in parallel. and there are diff wattage bulbs, the higher will melt stuff, I have had no probs since the change 2 years ago. i also use noalux on all elec connections, this also may be keeping the elec gremlins at bay! Peter. |
   
Sterling Sliter (Sterling)
New Member Username: Sterling
Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 10:37 pm: |
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Nick, the 2057 bulb is a lower candle power and burns cooler...to answer your origional question |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 242 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 11:19 pm: |
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of course I know a 1157 isn't the correct bulb for the Disco t/l. My comment was that a L.E.D. replacement socket type bulb will work and will be very much cooler (and water proof, too). And your very correct in adding the note about the dialectic (sp?) grease on the connections. I hate chasing electrons  |
   
Nick A. (Nick)
New Member Username: Nick
Post Number: 40 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 14, 2003 - 09:30 pm: |
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Didn't know there is a 2057 bulb.What is the difference in brightness? Don,t want to get slammed in the rear because of a dim brake light.Also are they available at the local autoparts stores? |