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Charles Allen (Callen229)
Member Username: Callen229
Post Number: 91 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:34 pm: |
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I am looking at getting a Hi-Lift jack for christmas. Do I need to get the "Jack Points" also or can I use it directly on the bumpers? I have looked at them several times and the tounge that sticks looks very short. It looks like it would be very hard to reach under the bumper or anywhere else. As you can tell I have never used one. Any advise would be appreciated. Charles |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 168 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:45 pm: |
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Hey Charles, If you have stock bumpers and rockers you won't use it much. With rocker skids you still might not use it a lot because of possible damage to the body by the jack top hitting the door area, etc. With ARB type fronts it'll work fine, but if you have a flexy suspention first run a stap to hold your axle so you don't have to jack as high to get the wheel off the ground. I still just use my floor jack to change a tire, safer and easier than my high-lift. But a high-lift can be used as a winch and its the thing to jack up enough to get off an hang up. If I was starting over getting recovery gear and bumbers, i'd get a jack all and rocker skids with the points made in them (and bumpers) they seem like a good set up. BTW don't hang the jack off the spare like the safari guard mount, I bent the heck outta mine today playing on slickrock. I'll get roof rack mounts ordered in the morning. I've probably left out a bunch, feel free to ask anything else. |
   
Charles Allen (Callen229)
Member Username: Callen229
Post Number: 93 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:52 pm: |
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What about the bumper adapter things? They look like they have a hook and chain hook-up that goes on the bumper. Thanks Charles |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 170 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 10:56 pm: |
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they work if you have a solid place to hook 'em. The stock Disco bumper covers wont hold. Some of the older american pick ups with chrome bumpers aren't solid enough either, they just bend up. I have one of these chain hooks in my recovery bag, you never know when stuff will come in handy, but I haven't needed it yet... |
   
Thomas Abernethy (Toadisco311)
New Member Username: Toadisco311
Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 11:09 pm: |
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Look in the for sale section. There are some jacking points that attacht to the front frame rails. You have to also buy the jack adapter to use the jacking points but seems pretty safe and is a lot cheaper than a HD front bumper |
   
Charles Allen (Callen229)
Member Username: Callen229
Post Number: 94 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 07, 2003 - 11:23 pm: |
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Hey Thomas how is it going? I saw the jacking points in the for sale section. Thats what got me to thinking. That is a lot cheaper than a new bumper. Charles |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 465 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:22 am: |
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Contact bb4wa.com and get their new unstuck DVD as another Christmas present to yourself. It will be out early January. There are lots of things you can do with it and lots of things you can't do. It is fun to use, but don't take chances, it can be extremely dangerous to use without good instruction on it's use. You've got to readjust the positioning of it as you begin to lift your truck (Lewis was right, you can hit your truck with it - or even worse, hit yourself. There are also several things you should do to secure your rover before using it. I had no problems using it on my Rovertym rocksliders, TJM has 2 stock slots in the front of bumper that were designed for use of highlift (I think Expedition Exchange.com has pics showing that use on their website in their TJM products page, and you can use your rear shackle to lift truck.
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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 466 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 12:30 am: |
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You can also use highlift to break the bead on tires when you get a flat. The unstuck DVD will instruct on all uses.
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michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member Username: Mikeyb
Post Number: 617 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 02:33 am: |
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jamie has a good point about getting some training or instruction regarding the correct and SAFE way to use a hi-lift. like a lot of tools, they can be a great help or they can kill you. be sure to give both your truck and the jack a lot of respect when using a hi-lift. a little training will go a long way to keeping you alive and actually getting done what you were intending to do. mike |
   
thom mathie (Muskyman)
Senior Member Username: Muskyman
Post Number: 459 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 09:27 am: |
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the picture above contains cardinal sin #1 never leave a high lift with the handle in the down position under load. It can fly up and hit someone in the head/arm /leg or whatever and it will hurt like all hell...maybe even kill you. farmers have called them widowmaker jacks for over 100 years. |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 469 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 10:35 am: |
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Thom, Oh gee whiz - my bad -- SO sorry about that. THANKS for pointing that out!!! I should of chosen a different pic to post. In that pic above, Bill WAS showing me what NOT to do. How about these as better examples?
 Personally, I have not reached the stage where I feel comfortable using highlift without proper and experienced supervision. Thanks! Jamie |
   
Andy Thoma (Andythoma)
Senior Member Username: Andythoma
Post Number: 512 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 04:32 pm: |
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Another thing you should never do is store it in the elements. If you store yours on the exterior of the truck, like mine on my roof rack, take it off and store it in the house when your not wheeling. Althought these jacks are weather resistant, they shouldn't be left on the truck 365 days a year. They will rust and could cause a dangerous situation if something fails due to corrosion. I know, it looks way cool on the truck, but unless your reason to get a jack is to pose, then store it out of the weather. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 185 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 04:37 pm: |
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Andys right, you (me) end up banging on them to get them to work. I use teflon lube and it helps, but putting it in a case or bag helps. I don't get much rain, but the dust gets in 'em. |
   
Robert M. Godshall (Robert_godshall)
New Member Username: Robert_godshall
Post Number: 22 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 09:04 pm: |
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Look all you really need to do is just buy one and keep it with you at all times and you'll never have to use it. Just keep it on your truck and spray with WD-40 every month and no worries. But God forbid you actually take it off and forget to put it back on, you might find yourself in a bit of a quandry. Murphys Law This Concludes My Current Statment Bob |
   
Charles Allen (Callen229)
Member Username: Callen229
Post Number: 95 Registered: 07-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 08, 2003 - 10:07 pm: |
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Thats my theroy on a winch. I know if I buy one I will never need it. Charles |