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Bill Collett (Bcollett)
New Member Username: Bcollett
Post Number: 34 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 06:16 pm: |
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I'm getting ready to lift my 03 with OME springs on the front and I'll trick out the slabs on the rear. Is there any thing I should know about installing the springs with the ACE. I did not see anything in the tech section about this. I just want to make sure I don't screw anything up. PS Does anyone know anything about the Pro-Comp Mud Terrains? Thanks, Bill |
   
michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member Username: Mikeyb
Post Number: 623 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:19 pm: |
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i have 4" in my 01 DII with ace. the only problem i have is that the ome shocks are at about max extension right now. if you install sliders (rovertym to be exact), you will have to tell them you have ace, as one of the acceleratometers (or however the hell you spell that) is along the frame near the front pass tire. no idea about the m/t's, but the also sell an interco truxxus m/t. they wear FAST. fwiw. good luck... mike |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 231 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:30 pm: |
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Michael, did you extend your rear sway bar connectors? I just found a tear in my seal with a 3" lift. I have bilstein 12" travel shocks though so that might have had an affect. |
   
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco
Post Number: 1610 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 07:41 pm: |
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Isn't the front links on the ACE "sway bar" longer than the rear? Maybe I'm thinking the brake line but I remember looking at both side and it looked like you could get a set for one side and install it on the other if you needed an extension. |
   
Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 799 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 10:38 pm: |
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When installing the springs, no need to worry about disconnecting anything related to ACE (actuator arms, downlinks, etc.). Just drop the front bolt out of the radius arms (front and rear) and you'll have tons of drop, springs should pop right out and new ones back in. |
   
michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member Username: Mikeyb
Post Number: 624 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 02:30 am: |
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hey rick, i did nothing to the connectors, but have been asked that question before. no tears that i am aware of, but i am doing some mods tomorrow and i will double check. how do you like your bilsteins and which ones did you use? bill, i disconnected my sway bars and used a bottle jack on the axel to get a little more drop...but! watch your brake and abs lines to make sure you do not overextend them... mike |
   
Rick Neff (Lostinboston)
Member Username: Lostinboston
Post Number: 233 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 05:36 pm: |
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I love the bilsteins. I have 7100 12" travel short body in 255/70 valving. They are a little soft but still great. The front links are longer for ace. I am going to find a pair and put them on the rear. |
   
Bill Collett (Bcollett)
New Member Username: Bcollett
Post Number: 36 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:42 am: |
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Thanks for the help guys. Bill |
   
michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member Username: Mikeyb
Post Number: 625 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:55 am: |
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thanks rick... i am going to start looking around for something to replace the ome's pretty soon. let us know how the longer ace links work...! |
   
Jarrod Williams (Jwilliams)
New Member Username: Jwilliams
Post Number: 2 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 03:12 pm: |
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What size tires are you guys running with ACE. Did you keep the 18" rims or go back to the 16". I am thinking of doing the 2" lift but I dont get to hit the trails much so I would need an AT tire. |
   
Bill Collett (Bcollett)
New Member Username: Bcollett
Post Number: 39 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:05 pm: |
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I went to 16's and 265/75/16 tires. |
   
michael burt (Mikeyb)
Senior Member Username: Mikeyb
Post Number: 645 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:56 pm: |
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ditto |
   
Jarrod Williams (Jwilliams)
New Member Username: Jwilliams
Post Number: 4 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 01:53 pm: |
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Did you guys like ACE to begin with? I know some people don't think it makes a difference. I use mine to tow a boat and love the way ACE works. I haven't bought the lift because once you drop down to the 16" does ACE really still work? My understanding about the 18" is that it does not let the sidewalls flex which in turn with ACE really makes it handle well on corners..just curious more then anything. |
   
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member Username: Offroaddisco
Post Number: 1651 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 02:06 pm: |
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ACE is okay... actually great on the street but the added complexity makes it just okay in my book. I liked it with the 18" and like it with the 16". It still works. The change in tire will make a difference but not much. As far as towing with ACE... I'm not sure why it would help with towing. |
   
Jarrod Williams (Jwilliams)
New Member Username: Jwilliams
Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 02:23 pm: |
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I just meant that I use the disco alot on the highway for towing, I guess, not sure why I put it in there either.... but glad to hear that you still like it with 16" and it still works. thanks for the info |
   
Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member Username: Noee
Post Number: 813 Registered: 03-2002
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 06:36 pm: |
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One thing that I recently discovered is that I think ACE with the so-called OME 3" lift allows the OME N108C to top out way too easily. I'm guessing a truck with the rear sway disconnected would exhibit the same behavior. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Senior Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 07:34 pm: |
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i've got a '99 DII with ACE and another '99 DII without it. I REALLY like it, I feel there is a world of difference in the road manners and with ACE the suspention feels very free off road. I think it might help towing by reducing some wiggle (wind, uneven road surfaces, etc.)? I've towed with my ACE-less DII a bunch but not with the ACE equipped one yet. I will this summer yanking a boat to the lake. |
   
Jarrod Williams (Jwilliams)
New Member Username: Jwilliams
Post Number: 6 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 12:15 am: |
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Lewis, Do you have any type of lift? I don't do any hardcore offroading and I am just thinking about putting a 2" lift on so I can still do some trail riding and tow my boat. I had the OME 2" kit on a 98 wrangler and loved the OME setup. What I was thinking was 2" OME and then BFG AT KO's, but those arent out in a 18". So I am just kicking around ideas. It would be awhile before I did anything. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Senior Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 296 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 12:52 am: |
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Hey Jarrod, Nope, no lift (except for factory uprated fronts on the TReK) and im running 265's on both. I do have the SLS so I get to raise the rear off road. My Silver DII has the BFG AT KO's and they work great on the slickrock and give absolutely great tread life! My TReK has some off brand AT's but they will be gone soon for somemore BFG's. |
   
Jarrod Williams (Jwilliams)
New Member Username: Jwilliams
Post Number: 7 Registered: 09-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 01:37 am: |
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Lewis, I just looked at your profile, what a great set up. Mine is just like your silver one. So you have ACE and SLS on the Trek right, and you have 265's on 16". thats how it came from factory if I have read everything right, so does the 16" to 18" wheels really matter. I know that the lesser side wall flex helps ACE, but does it really matter. |
   
Lewis Jones (Cutter)
Senior Member Username: Cutter
Post Number: 297 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, December 19, 2003 - 01:51 am: |
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Theres a lot of debate in my circle of friends about the 16 vs 18. I've driving both on road and can't tell any differance. Tires are cheaper with the 16 inchers. As long as the wheels will clear the brakes i'll always keep the 16's. Off road the taller sidewall is prefered, it gives a bigger foot print when aired down. On road the extra sidewall gives a better ride. The tires act as an air spring to absorb bumps, reallt noticable on washboard surfaces. Te TReK came as in the pic except for tyre brand, the size is stock. |