| Author | Message | ||
     Roger L. Powers (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2003 |
I know I have read something about Lug Nut covers coming off, but can't find it. 95 Discovery I was having my tire dealer rotate wheels when on the first wheel the chrome cover came off one of the nuts.  I don't get it what holds these things on? Sure don't look like it would take much resistance to twist them off. What do I do to get the nut off now? I have the bad feeling their will be more when I try to remove all the nuts. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2750 Registered: 02-2002 |
Roger, Those covers aren't supposed to come off. You are supposed to slide the socket on over the entire thing, then turn it all. They're permanently on the nut. It looks are though you've broken the lugnut, if not the stud itself. Not good. A new nut (and stud, if needed) appears to be in order. Good luck, -L | ||
| Wes (Wes) Member Username: Wes Post Number: 207 Registered: 02-2002 |
Roger, Leslie, That is your lock for your rims. Leslie is correct, On your regular nuts, the cover doesn't come off, but for the locking nut, the cover comes off so you can use the key. | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2003 |
This is all that came off. Just the cover near as I can tell. What has to be done to remove the nut it'self now? Are their aftermarket solid nuts available? I don't like this setup at all. Sure thankful I didn't discover this problem far from home with a flat. Now I'm afraid to leave home.  | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2003 |
Oh that's somewhat better but I don't have a key. Do I have to go to dealer and will they have one that fits? I thankyou guys very much for your help to this point. | ||
| Wes (Wes) Member Username: Wes Post Number: 208 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well, if you don't have a key, you better get one ASAP! | ||
| Clif Ashley (Cta586) Senior Member Username: Cta586 Post Number: 445 Registered: 04-2002 |
I dont know anyone that is much of a fan of those covers. The earlier RRCs I believe came with solid lugnuts, if you can find them, and steel lug nuts are available different places. You can usually fumble around with them enough to make them work, so I wouldn't worry about leaving home, but they are more effcient ways of keeping your wheels on. | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2751 Registered: 02-2002 |
Learnin' all the time! I've never had locks, didn't realize that they had a cover that looked like a regular nut. I'd just use regular nuts, not use the locks, but, I don't live in a place where people steal rims off of cars. Check the glovebox, maybe the PO left the key for the lock-nut in there. Good luck! -L | ||
| Lewis Jones (Cutter) Member Username: Cutter Post Number: 212 Registered: 10-2003 |
my wifes DII has a card with a lock key code in a pocket in the owners manual. I don't have locks on my TReK, not a fan of them at all (of course we don't have much crime around here...) | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2003 |
I have had the Disco all summer first time I even realized there are locks. I don't see anyway whatsoever to remove them with with the right tool. Looks like random holes around the circumference of the nut.. | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2003 |
I just called my not so local Rover dealership and talked to service. He was clueless. He said they don't come with wheel locks and had no idea what I was talking about. Made me an appointment to look at it next Thurs. Crap! | ||
| Donald McFarlane (Dsmcf) New Member Username: Dsmcf Post Number: 37 Registered: 11-2003 |
Are we sure this is a "lock" nut and not, like Swamprot originally suggested, a regular nut that has come apart? If he was having work done at a tire dealer they may have been using pneumatic impact wrenches, which if I remember correctly are deprecated by Land Rover. This may be one of the reasons why...? Although if it is a real nut then I am horrified at the limited bearing surface between the cap and the actual nut. I would be very curious to know where one can get a more solid nut, and preferably cheaper than the extortionate price charged by the dealer. I will be needing a set of 30 soon anyway, because I am going to be changing the wheel hubs (using a custom spacer plate) on my trailers to match the Disco 2 so that I can have commonality of spare parts (wheels). | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2003 |
I feel really screwed right now. I just got back from my local auto repair guy. A pretty knowledgeable fellow. But he is also clueless about this one. He said it does look like some kind of lock. Has no idea how I might ever get it off without the key. He did say it almost looks like a factory thing to him. Mostly because the cover exactly matches all the other nut covers. My question would be with the cover just being a basic press on affair how could it ever take the torque of a lug wrench on a tight nut? Concerning the impact wrench. Seems like I remember reading some time ago that guys were discussing electric impact wrenches that are powerful enough to remove Rover nuts. | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 350 Registered: 01-2003 |
I've never seen a locking nut like that before. All the locking nuts I see have a pattern in the top of the nut & don't have any removable cap. Leslie, have you actually seen this style before? I'm curious because I would find it incredibly annoying... you'd never know which one was the locking nut! | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2754 Registered: 02-2002 |
Alyssa, That's what had me baffled. The only locks I've ever seen have *never* had a matching cap, or any cap for that matter, and as you said, had some pattern in the top that was immediately obvious. My initial assumption was, the cap came off of the regular lugnut, but, the picture was odd. After Wes said it was a locking nut, looking at the picture again, it made since, since it was dimpled like some locking nuts are.... I wholly agree, it would be very annoying having to wonder which lug was the locking one. I've always been under the impression that half the purpose of having a locking lug nut was so that it would look different than the others, acting as a visible deterrent to someone even beginning to attempt to steal a rim. IF I was a criminal, and discovered that I had just pulled off 4 lug-nuts on my way to getting an alloy wheel, only to discover that the 5th was a fake one, I'd probably be inclined towards vandalism at that point, whereas if I could see that there was a lock at the get-go, I'd just move on.... FWIW.... -L | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 351 Registered: 01-2003 |
Sorry. I'm an idiot. WES, have you actually seen something like that before? | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2003 |
Well I'm taking it into the dealer next week. At least maybe someone there might possibly have some idea whatis going on. I'll let you know what I find out. Problem is I am going to be paranoid just driving the 35mi thinking what if I have a flat, even though my tires are good. | ||
| Brad Ashe (Vodkaman) Member Username: Vodkaman Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2003 |
Well to me it looks like a broken lug but if your looking for a lock maybe check the bag under your rear seat where the jack handle and lug wrench are. Another thing did the rest of the wheels come off? The reason I say this is I am sure each wheel would have one locking nut each if the others didn't then it surely is a broken nut | ||
| Wes (Wes) Member Username: Wes Post Number: 209 Registered: 02-2002 |
Alyssa, yes I have seen one of those before, actually, on my own disco!  Seriously, I'm quite suprised that you guys aren't familiar with the locking nut. I'll take a picture of the key in a little bit. | ||
| Wes (Wes) Member Username: Wes Post Number: 210 Registered: 02-2002 |
Can't take a picture of the actual lug, but here's a few pics of the key...     and attached to an impact socket...  | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thankyou,thankyou,thankyou, Wes. The fog has lifted,for the most part anyway. Only question now is who makes em and can I get one to fit mine. I thank each and everyone who took interest. My problem isn't over though till I get a key or at least a solution for removing all the damn locks. I don't give a damn about the locks I just want them gone. | ||
| Seth Oatway (Seth_w) New Member Username: Seth_w Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2003 |
Rovers North lists very similar looking locks in their catalog, so does Atlantic British RN 802 879-0032 AB 800-533-2210 | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 352 Registered: 01-2003 |
Well you learn something new every day. It certainly looks like that's the answer! | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thanks again I will look into it. | ||
| Swamprot (Swamprot) New Member Username: Swamprot Post Number: 10 Registered: 12-2003 |
Went to Land Rover dealer. They show the wheel locks that I have on their computer. Mechanic brought out set of keys that didn't match mine. He said he has worked their for 6 years but never seen ones like mine. Said I could make an appointment and he would see if he can get them off. Anybody with experience or a clue how to remove them without key? I really don't give a damn if they are reuseable cuz I don't plan to put any locks back on. | ||
| Brad Ashe (Vodkaman) Member Username: Vodkaman Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2003 |
Air chisel if you have a little nut showing. Chisel with it angled in a counter clock wise angle so once you get a bite into the lug it will turn with chiseling motion. | ||
| Bazzle (Bazzle) Member Username: Bazzle Post Number: 59 Registered: 09-2003 |
Find the prev owner and ask if he has the matching adaptor to remove> If he doesnt a "smart" mechanic or tyre dealer would find a way to remove and toss. Bazzle | ||
| Brad Ashe (Vodkaman) Member Username: Vodkaman Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just to double check if you saw in one of my previous post you did check the bag that has your lug wrench in it correct? |
