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CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1075
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So I am having more computer problems. Right now my computer is extremely slow. I have kept my task manager on the toolbar and it is usually at or around 85-100% usage when I am only running AIM. My computer is a Pentium 4 with 2.4GHZ with 512MB of RAM. I have done my disc defragmenter and I have ran all the Norton utilities. What else could I do to fix this? And it is a Dell Laptop, which I know was my first mistake.

Thanks,
Chris
 

Bruce little (Blittle)
New Member
Username: Blittle

Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

1. reboot it

2. hit ctrl-alt-del once, look at task manager to see what you have running. Check the names of curious stuff using google. Sometimes you'll find spyware, or worse, this way.

3. As you have norton, it sometimes downloads updates which slow things down. Make sure you run liveupdate, then reboot again.

4. Run windows update, do at least the critical updates, reboot again.

5. Download Adaware, let it do a full scan, let it skim the crap from your HDD, and guess what, reboot again.

6. Make sure that you have any file sharing program turned off (really off, not just minimized so you can't see it. Consider unistalling these POS programs).

7. If you are using a spamkiller program (ie. mcafee spamkiller, make sure you are saving only a small cache of killed messages. For example, change the cache settings to only save a days worth. I've seen McAfee Spamkiller (an awesome program) make a P4 run like a 286.

8. Look through what you have installed, properly uninstall the crap.

9. Run Norton Disk Doctor.............reboot

10. Run Norton Windoctor.............reboot.

11. Run Norton Speed Disk...........reboot

12. Next time consider a MAC. (I do a fair bit of IT at work, so pizzed off most days a bought a MAC to use at home, not one problem).

Have a Groovy day

Good Luck
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1630
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You did'nt say what your OS was but I'm guessing XP. Also try http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/

Do in your task manager... do you have DLLHOST.EXE and SVCHOST.EXE running? Note the case on that one. Is there anything in \windows\system32\wins?

Al
Some software money can't buy. For everything else there's Micros~1

 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Username: Joey4420

Post Number: 479
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would Download Spybot....works better than Adaware and it will fix at lot more things....

http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=spybotsd
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1076
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am running XP Pro. SVCHOST.EXE is running twice, on system and local serivce. DLL is not there. Bruce I have done everything you said and it doesn't do much. There is nothing in \windows\system32\wins. I am currentlly running the stinger thingy now.
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
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Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1077
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Joey i have both spybot and adware.
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
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Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1078
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I did the stinger and it found nothing...
 

Leo (Leo_hallak)
Member
Username: Leo_hallak

Post Number: 146
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Have you installed and Peer to Peer clients like Kazaa or downloaded anything from a site that had you install one, most of the time that eats up most of peoples resources.

-leo
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
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Username: Alan

Post Number: 951
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kazaa Baaaaddddd....
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1079
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I did, I have removed it and gotten rid of everything, but they seem to come back. I can't find the exact source. And yes Kazaa is bad, Ares is better.
 

Leo (Leo_hallak)
Member
Username: Leo_hallak

Post Number: 147
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would go into the registry and check whats starting and remove them at the source.

-leo
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
Member
Username: Uzbad

Post Number: 223
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Get rid of Norton utilities running in background - its resource hog.
Switch color depth to 16 bit (65535) - that will give you some speed in either case
As was said before - look in task manager, it should give you 100% of cpu used by processes, check out what eats it...
Unhook laptop from network, see if CPU calms down.
Check how much free space you got on your system disk - rule of thumb is at least twice of RAM (i.e gigabyte in your case)

If it started to act up recently - try to remember what has been done :-) Including someone switching processor running mode in BIOS to be low speed (catn remember if Dell let you choose that though)

Or just beat up Dell on the phone..
 

Milli (Milli)
Member
Username: Milli

Post Number: 45
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you are using a docking station, pull your machine off and reset it in the thing. reboot
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member
Username: Glenn

Post Number: 792
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Format C:
"Y", Enter


Glenn
 

Joey (Joey4420)
Senior Member
Username: Joey4420

Post Number: 480
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

CALM, I just sent you a program that may help with your issue. Follow instruction in the email and let me know.
 

Alan Yim (Alan)
Senior Member
Username: Alan

Post Number: 952
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ever wish you could do that to your truck Glenn? :-)
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member
Username: Glenn

Post Number: 793
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL.... Alan, I'd be happy with CTRL+ALT+DEL feature in my truck...

I wonder if the 04's come with that? I'd probably choose that over the CDL...LOL


Glenn
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Senior Member
Username: Glenn

Post Number: 794
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

BTW, Chris, sorry for hijacking your thread. Seriously though, if you have a CD Burner on that thing, burn all your important docs/files and format that sucker... It'll probably be a lot easier, faster and cleaner than trying to "patch fix" it. Just remember to run your favorite virus scan (updated with latest DAT files) on the archived CD before accessing the files on your faster and cleaner newly formatted PC.
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1080
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would call Dell, but I can not understand a word the Indian people say, so it is useless really. Gleen I might think about doing that, but I have 30Gigs of info on my computer and I am going to get an external harddrive, so i might just put all the info on there and reformat. 30gigs on 700mb discs would take a while. :-)
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1081
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Joey, it was not in my mailbox

edit: sorry, nevermind, it was in my spam folder.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1631
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Calm, check the CPU useage of the SRVHOST or DLLHOST running again... if they're using more than 10-20% CPU you might be infected. If not see what other processes are taking up all the CPU time.
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1082
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

SVCHOST is currently at 48 for the system and 14 for the local service. That is what it says on the task manager.
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
Senior Member
Username: Noee

Post Number: 811
Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This may be of some help with services: BlackViper
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1633
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

okay... from a command prompt (on XP Pro) type

tasklist /SVC

and see what DLL's are using the CPU under SRVHOST. If you're on XP home I don't know of a way to check, maybe someone else here knows?
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1083
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

so to go to the command prompt I just go to start, run. Well i did that, but it opens then closes right away. I am on XP Pro. That whole black viper thing i am not sure on. The site is kinda crappy, and I don't think I would want to do that.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1634
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

start > run > type cmd <enter>
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1084
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

al, check your e-mail.
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Senior Member
Username: Deanbrown3d

Post Number: 1142
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Uninstall XP, install Win98, watch it run 200% faster, and as a bonus you can still go to Tools | Find and search for a file the RIGHT way!

:-)
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1085
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dean, one problem, my network at Xavier will not work with win98. Only XP Pro or ME. Another question, would it harm my computer or cause it to mess up if I uninstall Internet Explorer?
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1635
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Calm, I was looking more into it and I can't find any other use for bits.dll so that URL I sent may still apply. I'm not sure why we couldn't find anything in the registry about it though. Has anyone here run into a legit BITS.DLL on an XP box?

Dean, as much as I don't like Windoz, XP is light years better than 98 if for memory management alone. Win2k might be more of a "thin-er" OS than XP. But the only thing 98 has going for it is that lots of the worms/viri writen for Windows these days don't affect 98. :-)
 

Bruce little (Blittle)
New Member
Username: Blittle

Post Number: 31
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dean is right, 98 blows the doors off XP. Anyone try setting up permissions in XP? If you want the same capabilities as 98 your looking at windows sxerver 2003 ($5K ish) or linux. What a joke Microsoft is becoming. The newer the software, the more capabilities they strip off. Of course you can buy the separately for a small fortune. Anyone remember the "fax printer" in 95?
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Senior Member
Username: Offroaddisco

Post Number: 1636
Registered: 04-2002
Posted on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bruce, I'll be the first to say Windows is a POS but if you're paying $5k for Win2k3 server standard you're paying far too much. Even for the over priced Enterprise edition $5k's about twice what you should be paying. It's hard to find a 98 machine with an uptime of more than a week. And 2003 server is more like XP or 2000 than 98. I have never even thought of it as being close to 98. I've used all the Windoz trash, HP-UX, IRIX, Solaris, Linux but I don't consider myself an expert at any one of them but know enough to say that 98 is almost as bad (nothing is AS bad) as WinME. Okay... 95 is down there with WinME too. I'm no fan of Monolithic Kernels. Most of the machines at my home are all Linux. :-)

Calm, let us know how you make out. Even if you use M$FT's third most used troubleshooting tool... delete-n-reinstall.
 

marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member
Username: Pugs

Post Number: 276
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

MAC!

MAC!

MAC!

MAC!
MAC!

marc
(sorry, i couldn't resist)
 

CALM (Gumarcel)
Senior Member
Username: Gumarcel

Post Number: 1086
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Marc sorry Macs suck, I have had them and was glad to move to a PC. Anyway I think i have the problem fixed, Joey is a computer God and he saved my computer I believe. With pretty much a firewall and some other stuff we got the problem fixed and now my computer runs great. Lets hope it stays that way.

Thanks everyone for your help

Chris

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