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Gerard Brooks (Wizard)
New Member Username: Wizard
Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 03:41 am: |
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Has anyone put twin shock dampers on a s1 Disco. If so have you any pix or advice. I recon doing the rear is fairly straight forward but what about the front. cheers wizard |
   
Will Cupp (W_cupp)
Member Username: W_cupp
Post Number: 210 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 09:21 am: |
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Why? |
   
Gerard Brooks (Wizard)
New Member Username: Wizard
Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 09:42 am: |
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It seemed like a good idea at the time !! and it will reduce body roll so I am informed. wizard |
   
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb
Post Number: 1300 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:57 am: |
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Twin shocks really need to be specific for rebound/compression to work properly ie: one specifically for each direction of motion. Just having two standard shocks does very little except give you a crappy ride. Look at spring selection and choose a good single shock based on your intended usage to reduce body roll. Bill |
   
Gerard Brooks (Wizard)
New Member Username: Wizard
Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 11:27 am: |
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I currently have Bearmach + 2 Heavy duty springs with Pro-comp ES 9000 shocks,and was toying with the idea of installing twin shocks but if it will adversly affect the ride then I will proberly leave it alone. I was looking for some one who had first hand knowlage or could point me to a web site. Regards wizard |
   
A. Ali (Alia176)
Member Username: Alia176
Post Number: 136 Registered: 03-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 12:44 pm: |
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How do you like the ES9000 shocks? Just curious! |
   
Bruce Potier (Brucep)
Member Username: Brucep
Post Number: 104 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 04:53 pm: |
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Gerald was referring to the shock for stabilizing the steering, correct Gerald? If so, let's go back to the first question, Why? The 'dampener' has no effect on body roll, only your sway-bars provide this body-roll countering effect. Who ever told you that may have misinterpreted your question or you with their answer. Back to the steering, twin shocks, my opinion, that is overkill and will probably cause issues with power steering unit later on with the extra force applied with dual shocks.
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Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp)
Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp
Post Number: 289 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 06:52 pm: |
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Bruce, he is looking into using two shocks per front spring. The springs themselves have a big impact on the amount of body roll. Heavier springs obviously will reduce body roll. |
   
James (Jimmyg)
Senior Member Username: Jimmyg
Post Number: 443 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - 10:37 pm: |
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Ditch your springs and shocks and get OME or RTE springs with OME shocks or Bilstein shocks and you will desire no longer. No need for sway bars. |
   
Gerard Brooks (Wizard)
New Member Username: Wizard
Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, December 18, 2003 - 03:17 am: |
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It was the suspension shocks I wanted to double up on. The Pro comp shocks are great, but I was just toying with the idea of putting on twin shocks, but there seems to be no benefit to do this. I found this bit of info on www.difflock.com about the pros and cons of twin shock dampers. The benefits in fitting twin dampers to a Camel Trophy Discovery (or a Defender) are similar to that of fitting an anti-roll bar, with the benefits favouring off-roading rather than on-road performance. When vehicles are fitted with winches, bullbars and steering guards, these are all fitted well forward of the axle, so the extra weight is multiplied because of the 'leverage' applied by the distance between them and the axle. If you imagine attaching a 10-foot beam to the front of the vehicle, and the standing on it, you can appreciate that the front of the vehicle will be forced down further than if you just stood on the bonnet. With twin dampers fitted, when the vehicle is being driven on the road, as before, each damper is being worked less because there are twice as many, which will stiffen the vehicle's handling, and when off-road, the vehicle doesn't lose any axle articulation like it would if an anti-roll bar was fitted. (As an illustration, the new Series II Discoverys actually have better axle articulation than the TD5 Defenders, because the Defenders are now fitted with anti-roll bars.) A correctly-specified and fitted anti-roll bar will improve the vehicle's handling on-road to a greater extent than twin dampers will, but the trade-off is that it will be worse off-road, and will increase the possibility of becoming cross-axled. Also, none of the pre-93MY Discoverys have the chassis brackets for mounting anti-roll bars, so they would either have to be fabricated and welded on, although some firms do suggest fitting them with riv-nuts. As I have a 1990 Tdi it didnt come out with anti roll bars (sway bars) and have been fitted as an after market job,but there doesnt seem much point in fitting twin shocks and sway bars. Cheers wizard
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