| Author | Message | ||
     Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hi all, after 63k ive done the following in past couple of months: Replaced Exhaust gaskets, MAF sensor,brake sensor,new plugs, injection flush, fuel filter, valve cover gaskets, trans and radiator fluid replacment. On my drive home last Thursday i noticed a vibe on highway and this morning a screetching noise and then viberation from driveline started for the first time, it seems more like the front than rear. Any info would be greatly appreciated. thx Al | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 468 Registered: 11-2002 |
Universal joints on the back half of the front drive shaft. DO NOT drive it anymore until you remove the shaft and fix them..... Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2002 |
Do i go to Land Rover or a drive line shop can handle it? thx Alen | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 470 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well for starters I am very serious , dont drive it. When the joints come apart the whole mess will more then likely got through the side of the trans and that makes for a very bad day. Land Rover MIGHT replace the shaft if you take it to them. They know it has been an issue and it was an issue when you left the show room floor with it. If you get no love from them just get any drive line shop to change them out for greasable units.. Kyle "Blow me" | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 62 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thx kyle Cheers Alen | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2289 Registered: 02-2002 |
Al, at 63K your probably hosed for LR covering it. Also, at 63K you made it a lot longer than others. There are others on this BBS that has had these fail, sometimes causing huge $$$ damage. Mine failed at 46K and LR warrantied the entire shaft. However, since I know I have a spinning time bomb down there, I talked to Bill at: http://www.greatbasinrovers.com/ For $99 he sent me new serviceable u-joints, a couple of extra fittings (one for the shaft itself) and a fitting for your gun. | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2002 |
thx Paul for info Cheers Alen | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 600 Registered: 02-2003 |
hey Paul how many joint he send? just enough for a front DC shaft? | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2291 Registered: 02-2002 |
Yes. Why? Because the rear driveshaft comes as an assembly. | ||
| Phillip Perkinson (Rover4x4) Senior Member Username: Rover4x4 Post Number: 601 Registered: 02-2003 |
j-w | ||
| Peter J. Kelly (Pjkbrit) Member Username: Pjkbrit Post Number: 61 Registered: 05-2003 |
Do NOT wait around...I changed mine out at 62K after all the warnings on this board, I had almost no vibe...but the joints were worn out. Spend the $100 and save potentially thousands. It WILL come apart and if you are doing say 50 mph+++, the shaft WILL go thru your gearbox housing taking cats and anything else in the way. | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 64 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well, had the front shaft done by driveline shop and now i noticed the rear Rotoflex is cracked. Anybody get the kit from Great Basin? How much? Cheers Alen | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 89 Registered: 10-2003 |
Rear rotoflex is easy to fix. Mike M from Land Rover Westchester (he posts on the board) helped me out and got me a nongenuine one. Since replacing it I have no vibes. | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2305 Registered: 02-2002 |
Al, I went with GBR on this as well. The entire shaft assy was like $390. Installing this replaces the roto with a u-joint. There are other tech theads going on write now about the centering peg removal and Bill Gill has a wonderful tech write-up. Paul | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 66 Registered: 11-2002 |
Paul, any chance of having a picture after installation? thx Al | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2313 Registered: 02-2002 |
Okay Al, Bear with me on these pics. This is a pic of the old rear DS with our friend the Roto-Flew laying next to it.  | ||
| Kristopher March (Apexdisco) Member Username: Apexdisco Post Number: 244 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'm at 140,000+ miles and some vibrations underneath at highway speeds. Reading this post gets me extremely nervous. I'm in a 99 DI. What visible signs can I look out for to determine my situation? Is this an issue on Disco's w/ no lift? | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2314 Registered: 02-2002 |
Al, Here is a pic of the aft section of the new driveshaft. Notice, no more roto, but instead a nice joint.   | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2315 Registered: 02-2002 |
And the front end of the rear shaft:  | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 67 Registered: 11-2002 |
Paul, thanks again for all the info. Everyone else thx. Have a great New Year. If anyone is EVER around in Chicago, look me up for few drinks at our new "SCORES". Cheers Alen | ||
| Brett A. Naquin (Bnaquin) New Member Username: Bnaquin Post Number: 26 Registered: 09-2003 |
I had a driveline vibration around 50+ mph but didnt hear any noise. I replaced the Roto-flex coupler and the associated bushing (inside the drive shaft end) and the vibration went away. Nathan at discountbritishparts.com sells them with the bushing at a good price. | ||
| Tim (Snowman) Senior Member Username: Snowman Post Number: 625 Registered: 12-2002 |
Why did LR install a roto-flex rather than a u-joint to begin with? "roto-flew" reference, LOL! | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 244 Registered: 08-2003 |
Tim - idea behind rotoflex was to reduce noise. It actually works - there is slight noice increase when you replace shaft. | ||
| peter nova (Peter) Member Username: Peter Post Number: 44 Registered: 07-2003 |
The only problem Iīm facing is that around 30 to 35 mph I get this weird noise under the front end where the drive shaft would be. I donīt feel any vibrations but a noise like something is rubbing with a metal part. I have a 2 inche lift on a XD with 80k. Hopefully someone knows what Iīm talking about. | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 93 Registered: 10-2003 |
Peter....go further. What effect does throttle, braking, etc have on the noise? | ||
| peter nova (Peter) Member Username: Peter Post Number: 45 Registered: 07-2003 |
well it only happens when Iīm going around 30mph. When I give it gas and go over 35mph it goes away, then when I brake down to around 30mph and let off the gas it comes back. What I think is something like an metal sheet piece is rubbing with something. Itīs like when you put a card in a bike spoke and start riding you getting that effect. The dealer said that the front drive shaft is rubbing against the front sway bar and there is a tiny grove there. But I donīt know if this is true. The only thing to do is take off the drive shaft and see if the noise comes back. Hopefully this makes a little sense. | ||
| Bazzle (Bazzle) Member Username: Bazzle Post Number: 75 Registered: 09-2003 |
On my D1 with an ARB 2" lift I made spacer plates to lower front sway bar mounts 3/8" to stop scraping. Bazzle | ||
| Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco) New Member Username: Pharaohdisco Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2003 |
The front drive shaft is rubbing against the front sway bar. I have a 3" lift on my D1 and I had the same thing. I did not know what the sound was until I went offroad when the rubbing sound became a thump whenever the vehicle jumped. I looked below the vehicle and there was a clear groove on the front drive shaft just above the sway bar and even the grease nipple broke off. I installed a 3 inch steel bracket below the sway bar brackets and the problem was solved. Tarek |
