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Ira (Ira)
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Post Number: 13
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have found a new '03 NA Disco S7 with cold weather package, dual sunroofs, seven passenger seating and java black paint. The MSRP is $38,200 but I can purchase it for $32,200 with the dealer throwing in the LR bolt on trailer hitch & LR rubber floor mats. Unfortunately the Disco S does not come with CD which is stupid for a $38,000 vehical.
I currently own a '98 Disco LSE and have loved it like a family member and want to purchase the last generation Discovery before FORD destroys what a Land Rover is.

Please let me know if this is a good price and if I should jump on it. Thanks!!!
 

Rupert J (Tehamarx)
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

do it!
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 462
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

don't do it. go for the 04. :-)


Ho Chung
 

Corey (Discobro)
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Post Number: 293
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Boy this could open up another can of worms...

Don't get these guys (and gals) going on the 04 redesign unless you have problems deficating... :-)
 

Ira (Ira)
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I was going to wait to purchase the '04 but I latter found out the transfer case is the same as the '04. I was told for $400 (parts & labor) I could have the locking diff installed via electronic switch.

If you have different information, please share:-)
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 463
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

cdl
dia


Ho Chung
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nice :-)
 

Ira (Ira)
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What are you trying to reference in the picture;)

If you can lock the diff via switch what difference would it make?
If you own a D1 Disco you know that the locking diff lever will freeze up if not used all the time. So why not have a switch or button to activate the locking diff?

Besides the CDL lever and the Aero roof rails is there anything else is should know???

Thanks :-)
 

Justin Sherfy (Jrsherfy)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 04:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ira,

Where did you hear about this switch? If it's true that I can have a locking differential in my '03 Disco with a switch to activate it, that would be awesome.

JRS
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Post Number: 524
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What Ho is showing you is the CDL that is standard in the 04 D2 and non existent on the 03. My plan is to pick up an 04..whether thats new or in a few years time with a lease return I don't know yet.
Now will Ho buy an 04?
 

gp (Garrett)
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

only if they come in yellow.
 

Bryan Crosby (Bcroz)
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Post Number: 110
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I bought a BRAND NEW 2003 SE for $34,000 out the door a little more than a month ago.
 

Ira (Ira)
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Post Number: 16
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Justin:

My Land Rover dealer told me about the transfer cases being the same ('03 - '04) with the exception of the locking diff lever on the '04.

I was able to confirm this information by calling other Land Rover service departments. I would not want to purchase this '03 if this information was not true.

I will find out tomorrow who offers this kit and post here. I do recall that this is not a hack to lock the diffs because the icon in the dash lights up when the diff is locked. Also it was mentioned that this would be covered under warrenty.

The one item that I didn't understated is that ETC can be used with the electronic diff lock switch but ETC can't be used if using manual diff lever?

One last thing is this '03 Disco S a good price??? Thanks:-)
 

Ira (Ira)
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Post Number: 17
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Bryan:

What options did your '03 Disco SE have? Great buy and it sounds like you purchased it for invoice.
 

Jim Reynolds (4x4xfar)
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ira I have a '03SE, 5 seater, Zambezi silver, Black leather not duragrain, 16,000 miles, $29999. -- Interested? Jim
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Post Number: 525
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sounds like we need someone to go crawl under their vehicle and see if the locking diff knob is on the 03s....the electronic kit was made in Oz..... www.amv.com.au/SIICDLSWF.htm but nothing about the kit being 03 compatible....
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

the nipple, you need the nipple!


Ho Chung
 

Christian Kiely (Redrover47)
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can someone post a picture of the nipple on a DII so I can find out if I have the CDL mechanism? I have and 01 and have heard that the later 01s had the nipple removed.

Thanks
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Post Number: 818
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.discoweb.org/cgi-bin/discus/search.cgi

It's in there somewhere
 

Matt Anderson (Disco01)
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Post Number: 101
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you are gonna get an S, go for a used one. I have seen a bunch around for $24-$26k with less than 15000 miles. Go to www.bvlandrovers.com and have a look. Rovers take a huge initial hit in depreciation over the first two years then seem to level off somewhat(as you know)
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Post Number: 526
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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt: LR dumped a bunch of S spec Discovery through enterprise rent a car....they are now showing up as program cars.....
 

Matt Anderson (Disco01)
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I figured they were rental units, but is that bad? I have heard a lot about rental units being better becuase they are serviced more, if you buy a used vehicle from an individual you may not be gauranteed that all services have been done, while a rental unit is guaranteed to have had it done. BTW, there are quite a few SE models at Bear Valley.
 

Mtb (Mtb)
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Post Number: 37
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2004 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My 03 that was built 07/03 does not have the CDL nipple:-(

 

Billy Deakins (Discodog)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Monday, January 05, 2004 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have to agree with Matt. LR's take a monster hit from new. I'd look around for a nice, low mile used SE. You can buy them for $24k easy. I don't know how you feel about it, but ebay has tons of deals from LR dealers on there. It's worth checking out.
 

Justin Sherfy (Jrsherfy)
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2004 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ira,

I bought my '03 Discovery S for $26,000 on e-bay back in August. It had 4,700 miles on it when I bought it. It was owned by Enterprise Car Rentals. It has no extra options. I have since installed a disc changer, heated seats and a 3" Rovertym lift.

JRS
 

Ira (Ira)
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I want to thank everybody who made suggestions!

I have desided to purchase a used '03 Disco like Justin and save money for mods. If I don't find a '03 for a good price, I will purchase the last year of the TRUE Disco's :-)
 

Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff)
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2004 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

On buying a recent model used try these guys: http://www.bvlr.com/. Don't have any experience myself but they seem to have great prices and selection.
 

Ron Brown (Ron)
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Post Number: 671
Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"My Land Rover dealer told me about the transfer cases being the same ('03 - '04) with the exception of the locking diff lever on the '04."

WRONG!!!!

If you have an 03 CDL is either major T-case work and linkage or a new T-case and the linkage.
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Post Number: 394
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's the other thing, Ira, you are getting $2000 EXTRA back because you are buying a brand new vehicle & are a current land rover owner. If you go used, you won't get that savings. Everyone here who is chiming in on the "you can get a used S for $26k" is right, but the car you are buying has almost $3000 more in options than a basic S model. So then you are comparing $29k to $32k. And can you find a used S7 with sunroofs? Probably not. I've never seen one come through. But you will NOT be able to get CDL in an '03, not cost effectively, that's for sure!
 

Ron Brown (Ron)
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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The other thing is to see what financing you can get, new you usually save a bit better than used, and it depends on what rate the dealer is giving you as well as the trade in value of your 98 (if you are trading it in). The "price" stated should also take into account these factors when you are making your decision.

Ron
 

Bryan Crosby (Bcroz)
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Posted on Monday, January 12, 2004 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ira,
Sorry it took so long to get back but mine is an SE with the cold climate package. Now if I could get it back from the dealer (see Running on 7 thread)
 

Peter Jenson (Pjenson)
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Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ira: I just got a New (6K) Loaner '03 S that seats seven and has the cold weather Kit.
Land Rover Rockville Sold it for about $29,500 out the door.
I put the Alpine CD kit in for about $450.00.

Might be a suggestion to look for an 03 Loaner.
 

John W. Hook (Hookdesign)
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Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Alyssa,

I'm looking into buying a 04 Disco from a dealer in Pgh and they said I would get 1000 off since I'm a current Disco owner...should it be 2000? I remember getting a mailer from Land Rover several months ago about discount off a new rover if I buy one but I can't remember the numbers.

Thanks, John
 

John W. Hook (Hookdesign)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Anyone know if the Land Rover owners program (or whatever its called) gives you a 1000 or 2000 dollar rebate when you buy a new one.

Thanks, John
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

John, it's $2000 off a 2003, $1000 off a 2004.
 

John W. Hook (Hookdesign)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for your reply Alyssa. Does your dealership have any left over 2003s? The dealership here in Pgh is very small and doesn't carry much inventory. I sa your post in another thread about quality. I had to laugh because I have finally convinced my wife to get a Discovery. I have a D1 and love it but she was always complaining about it breaking down. Well, I got her a new BMW 325 last year and it has been to the shop 9 times in 12 months for repairs some which left her stranded and had to be towed. Now she is a LR believer since my truck has never left me. Getting rid of the bimmer for a new Disco so we are shopping. Thanks again.
 

Matt Anderson (Disco01)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LR Willow Grove has a couple. I think they are all SE models.
 

Alyssa Brown (Alyssa)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To qualify for the owner loyalty, the warranty cannot have started yet, so it cannot be a former service loaner. There aren't really many new 2003s left. The ones that are still hanging around are mostly in the West. Neither Land Rover Main Line nor Land Rover Willow Grove have any left.
 

Randy Maynard (Rans)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I can't believe that after all the discussion there are folks out there that still do not understand that the late 2002 and entire 2003 line of Discos do not have the CDL nipple on the transfer case. The $400 electronic CDL kit is great if there is a nipple.

"If you own a D1 Disco you know that the locking diff lever will freeze up if not used all the time. So why not have a switch or button to activate the locking diff?"

The nipple is what gets gummed up, doesn't matter if one has teh electric actuator, or the direct lever, if the nipple is gummed up it ain't gonna work.

Buy a left over 2003 if you are never going to go off-road with it, wait for an '04 if you are. Plain and simple.

 

Matt Moore (Mmoore)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm new to this list and I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death hundreds of times. However, I'll throw my $.02 in anyway. My wife and I just bought a 2003 Disco to add to our collection. (We paid about $32K on an SE out the door by the way) Its her car so I wasn't too intrested in supreme off road-ability, I have a couple of other LR's for that. We took her car to our cabin a couple of weekends ago. The road up there is a steep single lane affair that happened to be covered by about 2 feet of fresh snow. My D1 with CDL and tall skinny mud tires would have walked up that road without drama. The D2 with a combo of no diff lock, traction control and road biased tires made it up, but it (and I) worked hard. I think I was let down more by the road biased tires than the lack of CDL in this situation. The traction control made a terrible racket all the way up but it did its job fairly well. It's HUGE limitation is on long stretches of low traction. It ultimately stops you. However, I was stopped more often by the Yokel in the 4-by Ford truck with mud tires who kept getting stuck in front of me. So, to make a very long first post a little shorter, my disco certainly is not as off-road-worthy as my D1 with CDL and other toys, but it is still better than a Ham-fisted and footed Yokel in a ford-by-ford. Furthermore the 2003 is really plush. Its not as great off-road but its a lot better at getting there.
 

John W. Hook (Hookdesign)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matt,

was your 2003 SE new, a loaner, or a used truck? That sounds like a steal if it was new.

John
 

Matt Moore (Mmoore)
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Posted on Friday, January 16, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It was new and that price includes the $2000 offer for LR owners.

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