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Matthew A. Collmann (Bubba)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is there anyway to correct this. The tach needle is all over the place when at idle, all the time.??
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Post Number: 542
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

sounds like another alternator about to go...fix it now or be prepared to get stranded....
 

Gerard Brooks (Wizard)
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This usally happens when there is a loose connection on the back of the alternator(the spade connection)I think, or the carbon brushes are worn out.
You will have to buy a new regulator complete with brushes though, It can be changed in about 15 min.
Cheers
wizard
 

bluesman (Hywy61)
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

seen it a hundred times - classic bad alternator symptom - change it immediately.
 

Joe Still (Joedisco)
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Tigthen the spade connector first.
 

Matthew A. Collmann (Bubba)
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Post Number: 11
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

wow, it's been happening for about 3 months, I will check the connector, sounds like I should order an alternator too. Any suggestions where to get the best deal?
 

Baron (Chris_browne)
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Username: Chris_browne

Post Number: 543
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

People post about remans failing frequently, at a point in time, its worth going genuine.....
 

Matthew A. Collmann (Bubba)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just tightened the connector and the problem cleared. Any other symptoms to look for on the alternator going out problem?
 

Enoch Snyder (Esnyder)
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The fact that it jumped as long as it did without failing meant the connection was most likely the culprit, as he found. I've had a couple go (genuine, too) and they were already gone once the tach started jumping.
 

Will Tillery (Will)
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Username: Will

Post Number: 268
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The remanufacturing process depends on who, how and what is replaced. Most of the time these remanufacturing guys do a great job on the internals...bearings etc but simply skip the voltage regulator which is more than likely the reason you had it rebuilt or replaced in the first place. If you end up getting it rebuilt or remanufactured insure you have a shop that is aware of what the heck they are working on.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 524
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i just got mine redone and I will bet it lasts every bit as long as the $500+ one from the dealer.

it all depends on if it is truley rebuilt or if the culprit part is just replaced. many rebuilders just check to see whats bad and then replace that part. the guy I use and have for ages completly disasembles the units(alternators,starters, blower motors,ect ect)then boils the cases then installs all new parts that have been tested in house to asure quality. he offers a one year warrenty on everything and in all the years I have used him I have never had a bad rebuild.

now something else to consider is that the alternators in rovers are very rare, so few rebuilders have any expierience with them. so taking it to a rebuilder and having him get a "kit" from his supplier and using you as his guinae pig might not be a wise move and i would think would end up in problems.
 

C. Fisher (Netter)
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, January 09, 2004 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Speed Sensor? I had mine replaced after having similiar problems
 

Matthew A. Collmann (Bubba)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Did you but the VSS online, if so where? thanks
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Username: Muskyman

Post Number: 526
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

if the speedometer is bouncing then its the VSS

if it is the tach then it is either the alternator or a loose connection(the middle one) on the back of the alternator.

MM
 

diane moler (Taxi)
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Username: Taxi

Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2004 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

had my alternator replaced and my tach is still crazy when it decides to work; most of the time it just sits at 0.
 

Joe Still (Joedisco)
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Username: Joedisco

Post Number: 114
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hook up a voltmeter of some kind to the cig lighter and keep an eye on the charging. 13.8v after start down to 13.4 after long drive is what I see. If the charge rate is normal consider checking continuity of tach wire back to instrument cluster. After that you get to take advantage of LR marketing hype of "easy to remove instrument cluster" (ha, ha)

Or do without.
 

Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
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Username: Uzbad

Post Number: 268
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Matthew - if it goes just up and down and never falls to zero or something like that - it might be not alternator, but infamous "erratic idle", that can be potentially cured by cleaning up IAC motor and all other lovely air lines (including damn U piece at flamecatcher). There is good article in tech sections of atlanticbritish about it.

If its going down to zero without motor stalling - then it most likely alternator. Try to clean contacts, if it wont help - new alternator is the answer. I recently cured mine with new MeanGreen alternator and truck as happy as pig in $hit :-) Not to mention that its higher amperage output.
 

Norm Orschnorschki (Norm)
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Username: Norm

Post Number: 98
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RAM Electric sells replacement parts for the factory alternator. Don't know how good they are, but they're a hell of a lot cheaper to rebuild with these parts than buying a new one for $500.

---Norm

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