| Author | Message | ||
     Jason Davis (Jackariah) New Member Username: Jackariah Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2004 |
Hello, I am new to the LR family. Recently bought a 99 Disco II with 40k miles on it. So far pretty good. However, I am stuck on something. If I lock it with the Key or the Remote and then go to unlock it with the turn of the key in the door. The doors unlock BUT the alarm stays active. If I then open the door the alarm goes off and the car is immobilized. I then have to us the keyless remote to disarm the alarm and remobilize the engine. I really do not care if I have an alarm or not. So a couple of thoughts... does anyone have a suggestion on what could be wroung? does anyone know how to disengage the alarm system permitly? I am very thankful to have found this website and look forward to getting to know you all. Best regards, Jason | ||
| Donald McFarlane (Dsmcf) Member Username: Dsmcf Post Number: 65 Registered: 11-2003 |
What you state is by design. Unlocking the mechanical door lock does not disarm the alarm. Also suggest you RTFM re. superlocking, so you are aware of it. How to turn this all off? Well, pop in to your nearest friendly dealer and use their Testbook to choose what behaviour you want. There are a whole range of different behaviours available from the BCU to suit different markets. Note I said friendly: some dealers will not support such configuration changes. | ||
| Jason Davis (Jackariah) New Member Username: Jackariah Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2004 |
Hello Don, Thanks for the input. I read the manual... and I understand the superlock. However, the manual saids nothing about this being a "design" feature. Quite the opposite... it states that the alarm will be disengaged if you use the keyless remote OR the turn of the key in the door. According to the manual the systems is not working as described. I am guessing that there is a switch in the door handle that is not making a connection and thus not sending a "disarm" signal to the BCU. According to the dealer this should not work this way. The key turn (from the outside) should disarm the alarm. So with that in mind I RTFM... and still can't figure it out. Best regards, Jason Davis | ||
| bluesman (Hywy61) Member Username: Hywy61 Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2003 |
Mine disarms the same wether i use the key or handset. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1319 Registered: 02-2002 |
Mine too. | ||
| Phil deGuzman (Powerslide) New Member Username: Powerslide Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2003 |
Sorry I could not help you but want to share my story. ('00 DII w/ 52K miles) Last Saturday, I unlocked my DII w/ the key FOB and opened the driver side door and the alarm started going crazy with the horn blaring. This happened at 4:30 AM and did not want to cause mayhem in the neighborhood. So I started and took off quickly with the horn still blaring. I then hit the horn button and it stopped it and the alarm also went away. I stopped at the gas station and tried to lock/unlock and cannot duplicate the same probelm. I am dumbfounded. This may just be one of the Land Rover gremlins visiting. I still love my Disco. | ||
| gil stevens (Gil) Senior Member Username: Gil Post Number: 376 Registered: 02-2002 |
i think the key in the door will only disarm the alarm if you used the key in the door to lock the vehicle. If you use the fob to lock and the key to unlock it wont work. see if that works. | ||
| Jason Davis (Jackariah) New Member Username: Jackariah Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2004 |
First of all... thanks to everyones reply. Gil... if I lock the door with the key... the doors lock and the alarm sets (flashing dash light). If I then unlock the car the looks come up and unlock BUT the alarm still stays active. Thus if I take my key and stick it in the door lock and lock the car the doors lock and the alarm sets. If I leave the key in the door and immediately unlock the car doors the alarm stays active... Weird... basically my car is at the mercy of my FOB at this time. If the FOB stops working I am stuck. I do not want to take it to LR dealer as they will charge me a crap load to track this down. Could it be a "trigger/switch" within the handle that is not mechanically activing when I unlock? Could there be a relay somewhere that I am not familiar with? Any insight is appreciated. Again, thanks to all. jason | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 448 Registered: 01-2003 |
Just making sure that when you are turning the key to unlock the vehicle you are HOLDING the key in the sideways position for several seconds. That is necessary to disarm. | ||
| Jason Davis (Jackariah) New Member Username: Jackariah Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2004 |
OK... thanks to alyssa this is what I found out... If I lock the door with the key the doors lock and the alarm is set. If I then unlock the door with the key... the doors locks come up and the interior lights come on BUT the alarm stays active. OK... this tells me that the switch inside the key handle is working and the car is recieving and "forward turn" key position. In addition if I do what Alyssa said and hold the key in the forward position for 5 or so seconds the horn beeps. This is indicative that the "alarm" system is recieving a "forward turn" key position. So... next question... can you have the alarm system set in such a way that "ONLY" the FOB disarms the alarm? This may be a program feature that was selected by the previous owner. The car came from California. If this is a programmable feature then is there a way to "reset" the system to the default settings... where key and fob both arm and disarm the alarm? What happens if I remove the battery connection? I do not have the original books (privacy thing from california) and thus do not have any radio codes... is this an issue if I remove power? Any insight would be great. Thanks again. jason PS: Also I took the door panel off and looked inside. I removed the connector to door lock mechanism ... the good thing is when I do this I solve my alarm problems. In this mode the FOB will set the alarm BUT not lock the driver sides door. However, if I use the key I look all doors, but do not set the alarm. Ying Yang... | ||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 449 Registered: 01-2003 |
So, Jason, is it working now? Or is it still not working? | ||
| Jesse Lessard (Jlessard) Member Username: Jlessard Post Number: 86 Registered: 10-2002 |
Mine 96 behaves the exact same way as Jason's. The key dosnt disarm, only the remote will. I just figured that i'd never lose my remote  Also, my driver side door dosnt turn on the dome light when Its open.... maby related? I just find it kinda funny when some one uses my truck and sets off the alarm when they go to unlock it. | ||
| Ian Howat (Mickey_finn) New Member Username: Mickey_finn Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2003 |
I've got a 99 D2 that had the exact same problem, so you better sit down before you read this. You have to go to the dealer because of the Test book. ($$$$) They tried replacing the switch in the door which did not work. It turned out to be the BCU, which controls a hord of features relating to the alarm, locks, ignition etc. By the time they finished diagnosing the problem, installing the new BCU and reprogamming the BCU and the key fobs (yes they must be reprogrammed so you better have the bar codes) it was a $1,000 bill. Now everything works as it should, the key fob, or the key, lock and unlock and arm and disarm regardless of what you used to arm and disarm. I now can carry a regular key in my wallet in case I loose the remote. |
