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     Tom McGee (Mcgeetb) New Member Username: Mcgeetb Post Number: 13 Registered: 01-2004 |
My 99 POS is at it again. I just got the following error codes: 0300 / 0305 / 1316. My question is whether or not there is something that is common in breaking down. I have heard of plug wires arcing out but can't see anything in that dept. The plugs are relatively new, maybe 17k/mi Bosch P-4s. The other question is what the hell is 1316? I can't find it in my reader mannual or my rover book. They just skip right over it. The low down on my pig is this: 99 D1, 75k/mi (cat replaced at 59k/mi), exhaust smells like eggs (I'm not that smart but I'm guessing catconv again), the error codes listed above, and some hesitation or choppieness in the engine when on the throttle, especially when cold. I'm not set up or smart enough to handle this one but wonder if this is a LR service shop job or should I try the in town mech. He's a Brit,claims to know his Rovers, and is $28/hr cheaper. I'm not swimming in it so that part's important. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks all. | ||
| bluesman (Hywy61) Member Username: Hywy61 Post Number: 81 Registered: 02-2003 |
2000 DII here - but similar symptoms - misfire on cynlider 5 - Now figure this one...I am out of town, still under warranty, dealer says plug wire is bad. Item fixed-seems to run fine. Back home I take it to another dealer for regular maintenance about one month later and they pull up the same code as before and claim i need a valve job. bottom line is you might have sticky valves. | ||
| Tom McGee (Mcgeetb) New Member Username: Mcgeetb Post Number: 14 Registered: 01-2004 |
Bluesman, Any idea what it would have run you if not on warranty? And have you had the valve job done? If so or if not what should I be looking at to have that done? Thanks. Tom | ||
| bluesman (Hywy61) Member Username: Hywy61 Post Number: 84 Registered: 02-2003 |
I hope you are sitting down. I had it done under warranty - bitched alot - at the dealer and the cost would have been around $2200-$2500. They re-machined the heads at a local shop. Tom - I sympathize with you and many others. Unfortunately, this is way too common of a problem. I am astonished there has not been a class action law-suit. However - after i had my plug wire replaced it seemed to run fine. So it might just be those. Would definitely try that first. The dealer might just have wanted the warranty work - know there were problems with the valves it didn't complain. Also I think there is a link here somewhere for those codes you posted. good luck and try some other opinions and even that independent shop. If you do a search here you should get alot of hits. I work on my own truck but this was way out of my league. | ||
| Tom McGee (Mcgeetb) New Member Username: Mcgeetb Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2004 |
Bluesman, Thanks, I think. If I get the plug wires done, what should I expect to pay? I imagine if I get the valves done, LR will give me a new pig and put mine in a museum as the most expensive D1 SD ever operated in North America. Everyone wonders how they stay in business. I'll show you some time...just look at my bank statements! Thanks again. I'll try the wires and new plugs. If that doesn't work I'll leave the keys in it and post some grids where one of you can find it for parts. | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 119 Registered: 03-2002 |
My 2003 is having the same problems. Misfires on 5 and random misfires. It only has 2500 miles on it and is going back to the dealer for the 3rd time today. LRNA sent a tech in last time, this time the District Service Manager is coming in. Needless to say I'm irritated. If it is a sticky or bent valve, I've got a brand new freakin truck that already needs major repair (this in addition to the missing welds along the front windshield that caused a leak, missing home link system when delivered). Ive spent $150 in gas getting it back to the dealer (2 hours away. Last time in they replaced the engine wiring harness and reflashed the computer because the LR tech said the programming had been altered by the miss fire. Have already contacted LRNA about a buy back. Man, first time I get a new truck in 9 years (I've bought used one's since 1996) and all this crap happans. | ||
| Tom McGee (Mcgeetb) New Member Username: Mcgeetb Post Number: 18 Registered: 01-2004 |
New wires and plugs arrived today. Checked the rear of my wires last night in the dark as suggested. The wires were arcing like mad. At least I know this is part of the problem. Hopefully I don't need the valve job too. Thanks to all again for the advice. You all saved me a bundle. Bryan, sounds like you bought the spawn of my pig. I posted it before but the dealer nearby is buying back '03s by the dozen...not b/c they want to but b/c they're going down like strippers in a Steven Tyler video. | ||
| Eric Thatcher (Discodork) New Member Username: Discodork Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2004 |
P1316 is a misfire error code. I had the same problem with my 99 D1. It will be the wires. OEM LR wires are $130 for a complete set. Magnacor makes an excellent alternative for about $80 and you can get them in a week or so. They made a BIG difference. If you have the P1316 you need them. Two other things to check before tossing the heads on the table (which I doubt is your problem). 1) Run some injector cleaner through. You just pour it in the tank. Any brand will work. It will be the best $4 you have spent all year. You can actually feel the difference in a day or so of driving. 2) Clean or replace the plastic TEE in the vacuum line. It has a small brass orfice that gets clogged and makes the engine idle roughly. The LR engine is tougher than lots of people in this forum give it credit for. Remember, it is an old 1963 Buick push rod V8 with years of refinement. It is as sturdy as a dutch oven in comparison to the dual overhead cam four valve per cylinder mondo engines that come in most SUVs. It's like comparing a cast iron frying pan to a cheap Kmart teflon coated aluminum toss away frying pan. They both have their uses and require different methods of care. | ||
| Bryan Crosby (Bcroz) Member Username: Bcroz Post Number: 121 Registered: 03-2002 |
Just got a call from the dealer, said my misfires were being caused by a bad coil pack. They are replacing it. Funny, my independent mechanic that worked on my old Rover and rebuilt my MG said that was the problem 2 weeks ago. | ||
| Tom McGee (Mcgeetb) New Member Username: Mcgeetb Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2004 |
Replaced the wires after getting the wrong set. Well actually the right set but I found out LR put and old model gems distributor panel in my '99 so the plugs DAP sent me wouldn't work. They overnighted a new, old model set and I'm in business. Drove it like a Ferrari yesterday after resetting the codes. No problems. I worked with AL at DAP as recommended by a few of you. Great guy great prices: OEM Lucas wires $55. Beat that anywhere? Doubt it. I further the recommendation to anyone. Great folks, very patient, especially during my meltdown afterrealizing my "New Rover" has parts from 3 model years and from the D1 and D2. Since I'm the first owner, that's interesting to me. Get ready customer servcie for yet another irrate customer. Thanks to all who gave the diagnostic advice. Saved me $2-2500 on the LR recommended valve job. |
