| Author | Message | ||
     Keith Mitchell (Keith_indy) New Member Username: Keith_indy Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2003 |
Here's my only complaint about my Disco so far, lack of guages. I like being fully informed about how the motor is running, and not having at least an oil guage is driving me bonkers. Anyone have some pictures of guage installations in a Disco??? | ||
| Gabriel Guay (Gearhead) Member Username: Gearhead Post Number: 73 Registered: 04-2002 |
I will post a picture on Thursday after work of my Auto Meter oil gauge. I'm really happy with the way it looks and instal was harmless to dash. Did it in way that left no holes exposed if I chose to remove later. Only problem is, I still haven't found a 13mm 1.25 to 1/8 NPT 27 adaptor to mount the oil line in the pump body. Once I locate one or fabricate one, I will do a write up on instal and how to adapt a GM oil switch into the line so the oil light still works. GG BTW: incase there is a machinist on the board looking to make up something, here is what the brass adaptor needs to look like.  GG | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 22 Registered: 01-2004 |
First of all what do you want to use? a Oil Temp or Oil Pressure Gauge....I own a 1995 Discovery # 1 5 speed...this is how I would tell you to install Oil Temp Gauge as I have already done as a matter of fact over a year ago ....well this is how I did it first off "you cant mount your sender for your gauge to your front cover "thats a No No you wont get proper oil flow around sender unit to give you proper temp reading etc......take my word on this I have done my homework.. This is how you can do it ..... mount.your gauges or gauge on your" drivers side A post" "call Summit Racing" .. sorry not sure of the # anyway call them or J/C Whitney and order what they call a "Universal pod for your A Post" they make to types single and double gauge sizes fits 2 1/16 ..mount them over your A post , I have a double pod with Oil Pressure and Voltmeter .. it looks really Cool...I have installed Faze Gauge for oil pressure and a digital voltmeter etc....the Faze gauge has A digital morphing switch which changes colors of gauge from "green to blue" in" three different color shades with a remote control switch "etc...I have the Faze gauge wired between Possitive power soure between fuse box and dimmer switch that way I can control brightness in tandom with Factory dash lights etc... grounded to metal member under dash etc....by the way the Voltmeter is just run off fuse box no need to dim my voltmeter it has no glow aura etc....as far as Oil Gauge what I have done to get good oil flow around sensor /sender is this.... go to local Landrover dealer and buy a new drain plug then "take sender and drain plug to a "light machine shop" and have them drill out center of drain plug to match sender diameter size" then adapt npt size of sender unit to drain plug diameter.. cut and use teflon tape around pipe threads screw in sender into drain plug then seal with high temp silicone around pipe threads then wait a day for high temp silicone to cure....then try to find high temp fiberglass sleeves to protect oil sender unit wires they come in rolls in different colors and widths lengths..the wire from sender will run very close to Cats but dont worry the fiberglass sleeves will protect from heat...I also wraped the wire with high temp tape silicone tape just to be extra sure then sealed edges with,hylomar silicone the highest temp you can find....once this is all done just run wire from oil pressure sender through firewall through rubber boot into the drivers side foot well side...and your done .....Now just run the wires around and up to a pod and gauges and wire into Gauge etc... and thats it your are done....I have had no problems so far "knock on wood" ...but every month or so I get under the Landrover and check wire and connection from drain plug to sender....I hope all this is clear ....if you want when I have a moment I could send you a digital snapshot and you can see what I have designed etc...I have done lots of other things just ask .....and i will tell you......"Remember if you burn your Landrover up wiring this setup.. dont blame me" ....just my little disclaimer....take care and peace and good health to you and yours standing by for your reply or questions. hylamar or the right stuff etc..... | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2004 |
On my last post.... I mentioned and refered to "Oil Pressure Gauge "often disregard Oil pressure gauge and replace with Oil temp Gauge thats what I really meant ..and one last thing I also refer to Drain plug ..I meant to say Oil drain plug Oh one last thing you need to get electrical type gauges not manual etc...CHEERS X10000 Peace and good health to you all in Discoland if there is anything in this post no one understands post and tell me..... Standing by PS what does everyone think of REDLINE Manual Trans Fluid is it worth the $$$$and would you personally use it.... | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1372 Registered: 02-2002 |
Wow - that's way complicated. Just put a union inline with the upper oil cooler liner (input side) - you'll get a proper pressure and temp reading there and then the line will be nowhere near anything it shouldn't be I've had an autometer pressure gauge in for about 4 years - no probs. Bill | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 24 Registered: 01-2004 |
"Hello bill just so you know" ....for your information as long as you are at least "20mm from heat source" you ll be fine the fiberglass sleeves are just as a"back up and the extra mile... with the silicone tape" thats really over kill but thats" just the way I do things."..also please explain how you tapped into oil line front cover etc....I am really really curious how you seem to just totally simplifiy what I did in a matter of moments.... which by the way took me days to complete "you do know you "cant use a brass T piece " to tap into not good enough reading on oil temp and plus it will leak oil etc.. and if you think you can do it this way then you will be mistaken unless you have a digital snapshot to show me ...and can prove over time how well it works for you without leaking oil all over the front cover and sump etc.... and wasteing time as well as money ... in the process .... standing by for your reply.......also if this works for you how do you know you are getting the" correct temp readings etc"..."please explain in details... no short cuts this time" ...like last time you posted response etc....by the way this info was told to me by a Landrover on the line tech at the solihull factory and if its good enough for him.... then its good enough for me....and I am sorry to say....but you are incorrect in thinking that yours will hold up over time without sprouting oil leaks in the future etc time will only tell.....sorry to be sharp towards you MR BILL but I spent time and hours on this project and wont be short armed by your lickey split response PEACE AND GOOD HEALTH TO YOU..STANDING BY FOR YOUR POST ...PS HOW DOES ONE BECOME A" LOUNGE MEMBER" or is that some private little club... "remember what Woody Allen once said " I would never belong to a club that would have me as a member.....HA HA HO HO just kidding Peace Standing by.... | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1374 Registered: 02-2002 |
I'll take pix tomorrow. By trade I deal with industrial and automotive hose and fittings everyday, so it was a pretty straightforward install. Use a carbon steel or SS hydraulic union - cut the upper oil cooler line and remove enough to install the union. Union has a 1/4" mpt tapped hole for the gauge output. Mine is all run in -4 braided teflon line. Bill BTW - as far as getting correct temp and pressure - the oil cooler input line comes directly from the oil pump and travels only 2 feet or so - not enough to significantly change either. Bill | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 897 Registered: 02-2002 |
Oh shit, talk about deja vu... | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2404 Registered: 02-2002 |
WTF? | ||
| Leo (Leo_hallak) Member Username: Leo_hallak Post Number: 174 Registered: 02-2003 |
RSVP....RSVP.... | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1375 Registered: 02-2002 |
LOL - didn't take long to bring back old fond memories....... Bill | ||
| Gabriel Guay (Gearhead) Member Username: Gearhead Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2002 |
Thanks for the replies. I just got done. I used an extra oil presure switch and pulled off the switch part leaving only the threaded steel core. Drilled out the center of the core to 5/16" 24 and added a brass 5/16" adapter with 1/8 compresion fitting on the end. Works great. Added a T at a good location in the line and used a GM 1/8 NPT oil switch to drive the light. Ran black split wire protector tube over the oil line and wires to match look of factory wiring. Works great, looks like factory parts, and nothing leaks. At least the oil preassure gauge parts don't leak. It is a Rover after all. Fully warmed up it idles at 35 PSI and comes up to 40 at 2500 RPM. Was expecting to see lower pressure due to 120K miles. Will be intresting to see how long for pressure to build and how high it goes in the morning at 20 degrees tomorrow.   GG | ||
| Gabriel Guay (Gearhead) Member Username: Gearhead Post Number: 75 Registered: 04-2002 |
I might be better if there were actual images in my images. Lets try it again.   GG | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1376 Registered: 02-2002 |
Looks good - same place I put my gauge. I went with mechanical as opposed to electrical (personal pref) Bill | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2004 |
Gabriel AKA GEARHEAD where did you get the air vent mounted gauge pod etc...it looks like it fits on the vent it self...did you fabicate something or is this something out of a catalog etc...if so give me a web address tel# etc how much was it... "so I can order one" Its perfect for my next project which is to install air fuel ratio gauge will wire that directly to oxgen sensor etc....standing by Gabriel for info on your air vent gauge /pod etc...very very cool.. what other goodies do you have??? heres a quick one for you order yourself some"led light bolts "they are really cool and are 10mm they will fit perfectly into licence plate bolt sockets etc...they come in many different colors I have one in red mounted on my A pod gauges with oil temp and voltmeter it looks like it belongs in a jet cockpit very cool also have two on the licence plate bolt sockets in Green to match my Coniston Green Discovery # 1 dont worry it doesnt look to riced out .. sorry dont mean to offend anyone anyway they draw very little current you can even hook em up off a 9 volt battery just to see if you like the way the color looks like before you install..they are made by Streetglow and can be found at J/C whitney they cost only $9.99 I have five different colors... yellow ,orange, purple and green as well as Red they are great little lights they are sold in pairs I am going to install them in cubby box ..so I can finally see in at night maybe somewhere else maybe over head many different possibilitys for these little babys... Standing by Gabriel thanks for the vision....PEACE standing by..for your reply bye for now | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2859 Registered: 02-2002 |
Uh....  -------- BillB, I like that.... nice job GC.... -L | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 26 Registered: 01-2004 |
Heres another cool led lighting idea " change the color of alarm led light on dash "etc...I plan on changing to either blue or maybe even yellow or orange the possibilitys are endless....check this one out as you know discovery #1 series have two alarm led lights blinking when activated etc..one on radio the other of course is on console etc....why not interchange with different colors let say red and blue it will look like police lights etc....what do ya think...cool huh... | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1260 Registered: 09-2002 |
I wonder why anyone would want an oil temperature gauge, in a water-cooled engine... In my experience, engine failures like spun crankshaft bearings happen without a minute increase in temperature, so the engine oil temperature has as much value as double-checking the coolant temp. gauge. | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 27 Registered: 01-2004 |
Peter its all about passing our time on planet earth you know what I mean ...if it makes people happy to install oil temp gauges so be it...also "Leslie whats with the "banging your head against the wall" are you "frustrated about something..also I am not sure how to address you "are you "male or female" kinda hard to figuire out with a name like Leslie just take a quick look down you should be able to figuire it out I hope.... | ||
| gil stevens (Gil) Senior Member Username: Gil Post Number: 380 Registered: 02-2002 |
id imagine the head banging is in reference to your one single ongoing thought. it makes your posts somewhat difficult to understand. All I got out of them is that you like rainbow colors and you like to put them all over the truck?? ..its all about passing our time on the planet.. | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 28 Registered: 01-2004 |
Leslie you have 2,859 posts all in just two years thats wild you must work over time to get those kinda #s whoa....I would love to have seen your first post it must have been so viginal....my how you have progressed over time...HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HA HO HA HO..PEACE TO ALL IN DISCOLAND PS I was a great debator up at DARTMOUTH College back in my day BYE Leslie or shall I say Bi HA HA HO HO..god loves those who have a sence of humor | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 29 Registered: 01-2004 |
Leslie you have 2,859 posts all in just two years thats wild you must work over time to get those kinda #s whoa....I would love to have seen your first post it must have been so viginal....my how you have progressed over time...HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HA HO HA HO..PEACE TO ALL IN DISCOLAND PS I was a great debator up at DARTMOUTH College back in my day BYE Leslie or shall I say Bi HA HA HO HO..god loves those who have a sence of humor | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2860 Registered: 02-2002 |
Mark, er, G. M. L., at least I know my own name....... Go through Parris Island followed by infantry school with the name "Les Bright" and you WILL have a sense of humor.  -L | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 30 Registered: 01-2004 |
Leslie you have 2,859 posts all in just two years thats wild you must work over time to get those kinda #s whoa....I would love to have seen your first post it must have been so viginal....my how you have progressed over time...HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HA HO HA HO..PEACE TO ALL IN DISCOLAND PS I was a great debator up at DARTMOUTH College back in my day BYE Leslie or shall I say Bi HA HA HO HO..god loves those who have a sence of humor | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1261 Registered: 09-2002 |
Mark, I have to admit that I don't know what you mean. It takes as much time to install an oil pressure gauge as an oil temperature gauge, with substantial difference in meaning. BTW... your sense of humor is breathtaking (or should I say fabulous?). | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2861 Registered: 02-2002 |
"Mark", Feeling a need to repeat yourself, are we? Not enough stage time? Hey, keep it up, and you, too, can have a couple of thousand posts..... ...... or maybe not...... -L | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1262 Registered: 09-2002 |
naw Les, he can't - at an average of a kilobyte per post. | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 31 Registered: 01-2004 |
Asswipe is more visual and much more ... ?take a look and also watch your mouth its very dirty indeed...PEACE and take it easy... you where the one that posted the headbanger cartoon after my post ...so blame yourself for the bad response or your parents .....I have nothing more to say or add to your 2,859 posts oh sorry 2,900 posts take it easy and by the way I checked with paris island and they show no record of your attendance male or female......Infantry now I know what your deal is PEACE hope never to converse with you ever again also remember who started all this point inward infantry what ever....... | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1099 Registered: 04-2003 |
someone shut this dumb recalcitrant motherfucker up already | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 901 Registered: 02-2002 |
Leslie, soon echoes are all that'll be left of Mr. Lichtensen... oops, I meant Mr. Zeyenda. RSVP RSVP | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1100 Registered: 04-2003 |
and yeah, I mean YOU, you dumb motherfucker posting as mark zeyenda dumb ass bitch | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1101 Registered: 04-2003 |
whore fag ass pipe | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1102 Registered: 04-2003 |
bastard crack baby jackass | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 32 Registered: 01-2004 |
you have double standards | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2004 |
I will never enter you site again take it easy and remember who started all this..Leslie peace and learn to live with other peoples comments...sorry to offend anyone on this site take care and have a good life discodred.whatever.... | ||
| Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leslie Post Number: 2862 Registered: 02-2002 |
Sorry, I was at the coffee pot, so my response time dropped.... I checked with paris island and they show no record of your attendance male or female That's really funny on so many levels because a) you can't spell "Parris" right, b) they wouldn't give you the time of day if you DID call.... c) and if, by some friggin' miracle you really did get someone to pull records, there I'd be 19910304-19910531.....  -L | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 902 Registered: 02-2002 |
Famous last words... I think you probably said that LAST time you were banned.  Oh yeah, and who's got double standards? You're the one leading a double life Mr Zeyenga-Lichtensen | ||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2406 Registered: 02-2002 |
Just let it go guys. Mark zeyenda is just like Peter Carey; adding disruption to the flow of things. Gabriel did a wonderful job on his oil gauge and what's cooler is that he did it on his own. It's unfortunate that folks like Mark Zeyenda have to stop here for their fun, thus contributing nothing. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1263 Registered: 09-2002 |
That's too bad. Cheap entertainment's gone. | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1377 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damn Gregory Lichtenstein bites it a second time - the "great debator" didn't even make it as long as the last time around - LOL 0-to-asshole in 2.3 seconds Bill | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 34 Registered: 01-2004 |
Sorry one last thing "really I mean it". you are ...."supported by your vendors" you are not fooling anyone so dont say anything..different Its really funny isnt it ..You start a web site only to help yourselves not others anyone that monitors your site knows this already .".you are getting a bad reputation out in the field."...people refer to your site as the "Discodorks".....have fun with your little web site...and you should read the progression of posts to determine whos really wrong is this situation etc...good luck Disco Dorks.... | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 904 Registered: 02-2002 |
Good riddance you piece of shit. | ||
| Bob Shinn (Bshinn) New Member Username: Bshinn Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2004 |
Thanks Craig, I almost stopped visiting this site awhile back, because I ran into an asshole like that. Nice to know you weed out the biggest wackos. | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1105 Registered: 04-2003 |
Why why why? Oh, why was I banned? What's funny is that this site was NOT started by the owners to "help yourselves" you idiot. This site is "supported" by people with a common interest, not jackasses like you, you dipshit. Go back to your previous posts before you were banned last time and re-read your whiny bullshit. And learn to speak the goddamn language, you illiterate faggot. | ||
| mark zeyenda (Mark_zeyenda) New Member Username: Mark_zeyenda Post Number: 35 Registered: 01-2004 |
Thanks your friend George Bush!!!! you can say what you want about me ...I no how to press your buttons..and that my friends is entertainment ...I buy and sell people such as yourselfs everyday you are all disposable as for my spelling it needs a little help...As for my long posts I can afford to spend time I very very Rich and you are probably not...you are all a bunch of tools...and you hide behind your terminals thinking you are so cool well you are not.....Peace and remember one thing sticks and stones can break my bones but...words and names will never ever scare me or hurt me I know who I am and love everything about myself and if you think you are all so tough come on into NYC and I will arrange to meet you and I will bring the entire FDNY to Really give you all a work out If I where you I would stop all posts before something really comes of all this bye and dont even reply you bunch of cowards.... | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1114 Registered: 04-2003 |
LOL, what a jackass He very very Rich, can buy and sell people like me. I love it! Now that is entertainment Bring it on Marky Mark. Take your empty threat If I where you I would stop all posts before something really comes of all this and shove it straight up your ass. Tell your therapist that I said "hello" and "you're welcome". | ||
| gil stevens (Gil) Senior Member Username: Gil Post Number: 381 Registered: 02-2002 |
for real.. buddy you got issues. i must have been away when this guy was on before, but this is a riot. You can tell hes all huffing and puffing mad. what happened to "passing our time on the planet" and "PEACE"?? FDNY will kick your asses!! cowards!! ..go play with your rainbow LEDs. what a dildo | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 1493 Registered: 02-2003 |
more, i want more. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1265 Registered: 09-2002 |
you're also after cheap entertainment, Rob... | ||
| Blue (Blue) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Blue Post Number: 1115 Registered: 04-2003 |
I want more, too. Come on Greggy...stumble those fat fuck fingers over your keyboard some more, you dickweed. | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1382 Registered: 02-2002 |
Shit - I'm sure Mark - aka Gregory is gone by now - but hell, I already took the pix:  Sorry for the blurry gauge photo - too lazy to retake Bill | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1383 Registered: 02-2002 |
Shit - I'm sure Mark - aka Gregory is gone by now - but hell, I already took the pix:      Sorry for the blurry gauge photo - too lazy to retake Bill | ||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 228 Registered: 05-2003 |
~deep breath~ Just Damn! WTF? LOL | ||
| Bazzle (Bazzle) Member Username: Bazzle Post Number: 86 Registered: 09-2003 |
ROFL.... Started seriuos but just GOT BETTER!!! Bill, clean that rust off the fitting,, no wait its leak oil soon... Bazzle | ||
| Keith Mitchell (Keith_indy) New Member Username: Keith_indy Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2003 |
thanks for the information and entertainment... | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 527 Registered: 04-2003 |
Ok, unless I missed it, did Gearhead ever say where he got the vent mounted pod? It still amazes me at what lengths people will go to show there true colors.... "I buy and sell people such as yourselfs everyday" Now that really is funny....when is the last time you bought anybody that wasn't standing on a street corner? Just could help that comment. I normally just don't even bother... Joey | ||
| Keith Mitchell (Keith_indy) New Member Username: Keith_indy Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2003 |
Bill - How did you get the line routed like you do? How much of the dash do you need to disassemble in order to do that? I like the idea of getting a pillar pod to hold 2 or 3 guages. Oil Pressure, Tran temp, and maybe a voltmeter. I prefer electric guages to manual, mostly after seeing a couple of oil guages loose their line. Cleaning oil out of the passenger compartment is barely tolerable in a Jeep, let alone a Land Rover. | ||
| Gabriel Guay (Gearhead) Member Username: Gearhead Post Number: 76 Registered: 04-2002 |
Joey, I made the vent mount. it's formed sheet metal to fit the inside of the vent with two screws in the vent pipe. The Auto meter cup mount is revited to the vent mount. I did that because I like to gauge location from the drivers seat but I'm not sure that will be it's permanant location yet. If I move it, the dash isn't full of holes in the padding. Bill, Question for you. My gauge is machanical as well as yours. I chose to add an Oil gauge because when ever its between 30 & 40 degrees F. The first start in the morning will produce some light lifter tapping and what sounds like a light rod knock for about 1-2 seconds. I always felt this was due to oil drain back and that it takes too long to prime up the pump. By the way, this never happens if its colder or warmer. Now I have the oil gauge instead of a stupid light, I can see whats going on and I suspect a bad Oil press relief valve or bad oil pump seal. When I started up this morning. Oil light goes out almost instantly as normal, light lifter clatter and light rod rumble for 1 second but, Oil press is only at 10-15 PSI and rising very slowly. Changing engine speed from 750 RPM to 1500 and back makes no diff on oil presure. Still steady slow rising to 25 and finally 30 PSI after about 30-40 seconds. Seems too long to me. The weird thing is, It stays dead on 30 PSI no mater if at idle or 2500 RPM. So I start to drive to work. As soon as water temp reaches norm temp, Oil Press rises to 38 PSI and stays dead on 38 with a few momentary bumps to 40 PSI. Again even at idle, it only drops from 38 to 30 at 650 RPM. Seems like it's regulated at 35 PSI. What does your oil press look like. In the past 25 years, all my other cars had machinal oil press gauges, and I ran 20W50 year round in all of them, and on a cold mornings the oil press would be in the 60-80 PSI range and would fluctuate in step with engine speed. even after warmed, would look typically like 25-30 at idle with 35-40 2000 RPM and 45-50 3500 RPM. this thing stays dead on 38 PSI and only after a 45 min run in traffic today, it would drop to 30 at idle. Bad rod and Main bearings will give low oil press but, it would stay lower than normal though out the operating range, especially when warm and would be low at Idle when warm. I will take out the oil press relief valve Saturday and see if the spring is 60 mm as stated in workshop manual and inspect valve piston for evedence of getting jamed in open position but would like to hear what normal oil press looks like on your truck. By the way, running 5W50 synth GG Used to have an Olds 442 with a high press Oil pump. Ran 20W50 year round in that too. On a cold RI morning ( 10 Deg or so ) Oil press would run at about 95-100 PSI until it reached op temp then would drop off to 40 at Idle and 65-70 at 3000 RPM. One morning it got to 10 below, Starter barly turned it over but it started, ran for about 5 min and Pow! Oil filter blew off. Never found filter until next spring when cutting brush across the street. Those were the days | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1400 Registered: 02-2002 |
Keith - Line routing isn't tough - binnacle and instrument cluster have to come out for install. Very doubtful that I'll lose a oil press line with a hose rated to 6000 psi burst LOL.\ I will say though that I am not a fan of any electric gauges (personal pref I realize) - but I think they are slow to react, depend on the accuracy of a generic sender of unknown origin, quality of wiring, etc. More electrical stuff I do not need in a Disco Bill | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1016 Registered: 09-2002 |
Hehe, this was an entertaining one. Don't ban Mr. Stuntman just yet. I'm enjoying myself here. Must never have a dull moment being bi-polar. | ||
| Keith Mitchell (Keith_indy) New Member Username: Keith_indy Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2003 |
The mech oil guages I've seen fail, failed because the line popped out of the back of the guage, not because the line broke. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1275 Registered: 09-2002 |
Gabriel, I have the same symptoms on my Disco, with 143kmi on the clock, in the same temperature range. I found that using 5W50 synthetic makes the valve and rod clatter less, or eliminates it altogether. I was thinking of having some sort of ignition/injection delay, so I have a few seconds of cranking before it fires - but don't know if it is going to trip the CEL. | ||
| Gabriel Guay (Gearhead) Member Username: Gearhead Post Number: 79 Registered: 04-2002 |
Peter, Turned out to be a bad press relief spring. Have one on order and I have shimmed the bad spring for now and it pumps up right away now. No more clatter in the morning. I don't understand why the spring is shorter than 60 mm but it is. The new spring should cure it. It now has 45+ at start-up and maintains 30 PSI warm at idle with the shimms makeing the free length just shy of 60 mm. GG |
