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     Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2004 |
The first day with my 2000 Disco II, I got stuck in some pretty frozen, chunky snow. I slid into another bank the other day. Now before you go making fun of me, I bought this truck for this kind of thing - not getting stuck, but going through crazy ass snow, ice and mud. I noticed that I managed to crack all the plastic in front and my right fog light is pretty loose and near ready to fall out. Damn! I should have installed a bumper right away, eh? ;) Anyway, does this get tossed when I install my bumper? If so, it will make me feel a lot better. :D -30 and colder weather kills that plastic crap pretty quick anyway. Where is the best place to buy a winch bumper for a good price and which one should I get? I want to mount a winch at the same time, and I'd like to order it like right now! Is that Husky 10 the best one to get? Thanks for your help! Hopefully | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 21 Registered: 01-2004 |
Okay. Figured out that it does. So now which one dammit? I want one, I wan't one! :D | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 764 Registered: 05-2003 |
Sheldon, It sounds like you are talking about the air dam that was cracked. Yes, that will go when you get a winch bumper. Your fog lights will go away too. Good Luck, Jamie | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2004 |
Okay. Thanks, but what is the best winch bumper to get?? | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 351 Registered: 08-2003 |
Rovertym Do a search, and you'll see lots of posts saying why... | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 352 Registered: 08-2003 |
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| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 767 Registered: 05-2003 |
Sheldon, Deciding which winch bumper you want depends alot on how much you want to spend and also the conditions that you will be driving (and getting stuck) in. I have the TJM, which was very reasonably priced and it looks nice. As long as I do self recovery with my winch I'm ok. I've only had to get recovered once by a tow rope and it twisted my bumper a bit (mostly visible from the side) - but, to be honest I kind of anticipated that would happen because of the swampy mud conditions here. When adding up the pluses and minuses of the TJM, the weaknesses that I have experience is because of the conditions, not because of the the bumper. RoverTym seems to be another wonderful winch bumper. SafariGard is working great for a few of the rovers in my area, but they are $$$$ and from what I understand they don't have the best customer service. I have heard several "rumors" about someone in Colorado who has designed an awesome winch bumper and may make them available for sale in the next few years - but, it IS a rumor - who knows if it's really true? I drove everyone nuts when I was trying to choose the best bumper and there were opinions all over the scale. I think one of the reasons for this is that there is not that "one perfect and best choice". Good Luck making your choice, there is alot of good knowledge and experience by the members here. They know what they're talking about. Jamie | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1353 Registered: 02-2002 |
Jamie - if a bumper bends with one single pull, then its a POS isn't it? Bit like the SG and ARB. I've seen them all bend and/or rotate. Sheldon get the RTE. | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 32 Registered: 01-2004 |
Thanks for the posts. Money is not a factor in my decision making process. I like to buy the best quality I can get. Name means shit unless it works. Thanks for all the advice. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1354 Registered: 02-2002 |
Well unfortunately you can't just buy experience, knowledge, or intelligence. | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 34 Registered: 01-2004 |
All the guys with no money say that. Same goes for all the guys with little dicks, who talk about their big dicks.... You know what really pisses me off? As hard as I've worked and slaved to come from nothing to having something, and without trying to rub anyone's noses in what I have or have not, every freaking time I try to excercise my right to buy shit, I end up with people who just can't stand that someone else has the ability to just go buy what they want, like right now. Well tough shit. Maybe it's experience, knowledge and intellegence that got me the ability to buy what I want in the first place. Just because it isn't in your area of expertise, doesn't mean the skills I have are of less value, at least not for me. I'd rather have my abilities than yours if it means I can buy the shit I want. I have had a lot of "experiences" and gained a lot of "knowledge" and expanded my "intelligence" substantially by being able to buy shit and try shit that I wouldn't have had the chance to without money I earned by excerising all the other skills I learned before. Get it?? How about you just boycott my posts from now on? You certainly don't have to answer them. No one is forcing you to. Getting frustrated at my posts is a little juvenile when all you have to do is nothing... While I appreciate everyone's responses, I'm a straight forward guy and don't take shit from anyone, and can be the nicest guy in the whole world or the biggest asshole. Take your pick. G'nite. | ||
| James Hamilton (Rocknroll) New Member Username: Rocknroll Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2004 |
Jesus, Sheldon. Calm the fuck down. All dean said that is that you can spend all the money you want, but unless you spend it on the right things and the right products, it's money wasted. That's where experience comes in to play, and that's why you are asking for the collective knowledge of the discoweb. Understand? Correct me if I'm wrong, Dean, but I don't think you were making a direct attack against a strangely paranoid, extremely sensitive Sheldon. Where you? | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Senior Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 265 Registered: 06-2003 |
Ive wheeled with dean and his experiance in certain areas will make the best equipped diso seem like a toy jeep. Im sure he was referring to learning the quirks of your disco and all the ins and outs. I have a $G front bumper with an XD9000i and lockers but if i could have bought knowledge instead of all that, i could have gotten by with just my CDL and my multimount winch. plus i would not have done 5 differnt suspensions and would have saved countless hous of my time and probably thousands of $. I like my $g front bumper, but RTE did not have one for D2 when i bought it. Ive seen the RTE and really like it. If doing it again, I'd go with RTE. I lost a fog light my first time out and crtacked the shit out of my air dam. You can also just trim your air damn untill you get you bumper on. If done right it looks pretty good. and sheldon, you have to calm down. This board canbe ruthless. go with the flow and realize that the internet was invented to anonymously insult people. | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 199 Registered: 02-2003 |
Do the things yourself! Spend as you can/want. Just post pics! | ||
| Ken Rountree (Krountre) New Member Username: Krountre Post Number: 1 Registered: 01-2004 |
I'm with Nadim; If you don't want/need advise, don't ask for it. As W.C. Field's once said "its a sin to let a fool keep his money." I'm looking at buying new shocks/springs and a winch bumper. My '98 (123K miles)is a tool, not a toy, as I use it for property inspections in my appraisal business (timberland & farmland). I was looking at an OME medium suspension and an ARB bumper. Keeping in mind that I'm in South Georgia near the Florida line, so the nearest rock is 6 hours away in Tellico; heck the nearest hill is 2 hours away... so I'm not looking for killer articulation and insane approach angles. Don't stone me, but I don't care for the look of the RTE. My question is, keeping the above in mind, what are the problems you have experienced with the ARB bumper? | ||
| Walter Dent (Walter) New Member Username: Walter Post Number: 33 Registered: 11-2003 |
Sheldon if you look at my profile you'll see a D2 with a trimmed air dam. I cracked mine too but I already had plans to cut it off. On another note, I put the fog lights on eBay and got $197 for them! Of course that went right back in the disco fund.  | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 768 Registered: 05-2003 |
Sheldon, I understand what you are going through because I had the same experience here. I took the crying route and felt like a total dumb bunny most of the time. I still get to have that experience occassionally. If it weren't for my ridiculous goofy sense of humor, I would have been gone long ago. Most of these guys have been around rovers all their lives and know them inside and out. They've tested the products and are willing to share their successes and failures. Yes, sometimes they are very harsh. That's an interesting thing because I have found that my best and safest trail partners who are willing to take adventures ARE THE SAME WAY. I'd much rather follow one of them and get yelled at (alot) and come back out intact than someone who is totally agreeable and accomodating while leading others into thousands of dollars of damage. These guys are passionate about their rigs and that does come through in their posts. For me, as a total novice, the VERY BEST thing about DiscoWeb is that all of the replies give you a starting point to begin to research the products that are AVAILABLE for modifications. You're not going to find anywhere else that will instantly give you feedback about what's out there and how it works. Take that info and use it as a starting point for researching the products yourself. Then you just have to decide where you want to put your hard earned money and what will work best for the terrain you plan to travel. I have saved thousands of dollars on equipping my truck and have also saved untold thousands of dollars by damage that I have avoided by researching and finding out that some "worst case scenario" posts were in fact true. Dean, a freind modified my TJM bumper by fabricating hooks and bolting/welding them into the bumper channels. John Lee predicted the result of what would happen if I used them - as usual, he was right. I contributed to the damage by running over the tow rope on my way out of being recovered. A true off roader will spot the damage instantly, but a poser can't even see it if you show it to them. It is one of my favorite souveniers from a most excellent day on the trail  Sheldon, hang in there. Everytime I knew exactly what to do and what was the right thing, I was told it was totally wrong. Many times I had to start over again. I guess you've just gotta choose where you'd prefer to take your "hard knocks" - at your keyboard or on the trail? I have yet to meet the guys who yell at me on their keyboards the most, but I already know I will feel safe and in good company on the trail with them. Stick around and you'll be surprised - the orneriest guys will come charging out of the blue and give you supportive words when you're truley about to give up and totally quit. Have no fear though - they'll be yelling at you again soon enough! Sincerely, best wishes and good luck, Jamie | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1355 Registered: 02-2002 |
Sheldon, That was not meant to be a direct attack at you. I don't give a fuck if you destroy your disco on the first major obstacle, since you seem to have enough cash to get it coptered out and not give a damn anyway. But you cannot just go out an pay for someone's leg or eye or even life, if you fuck up big time (for example by winching on you tie-down points because you didn't RTFM). And if God just comes down from the heavens and plonks a fully equipped rig in your hands, you're still gonna take a long time to get to know it, and you'll NEVER learn the differences between that and a stock rig. So take your time, please, and build up your rig and experience thoughtfully. If you think I gave you a hard time, just wait! Since you run a particular kind of terrain, I can only offer my humble opinion on what is the best equipment for your vehicle. Please take this not as an attack: Rovertym engineering (RTE) bumper and brush bar, Warn 9.5ti winch (its fast, powerful and seemingly quite waterproof) WITH A SYNTHETIC WINCH LINE (master-pull). RTE skid plate. OME or RTE 2" or 3" lift. OME/Billstein shocks. Get your CDL working. BFG MTs. Loose the chain. Keep the 2" straps, but next time (it won't be long) get the 3" versions. Keep the high-lift, and make SURE you have a jack base. RTE sliders (you can jack on them, as you can the front bumper). RN (rovers north) diff guard. Make sure you have the rear receiver hitch. After a while consider getting HD upgraded drive train and diff lockers/gears, but I'll leave that for someone else to advise. And while this is all on order waiting for delivery, gedthefuckoudahere and go and get stuck as many times as you can in the next 7 days so you'll appreciate it when it gets installed | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 332 Registered: 02-2003 |
Sheldon, take some prozak, and your racing up the to the top of the ASSHOLE list...How's this sound, post up with actual questions, instead of bragging about having cash and asking dumd ass questions. Dean is 100% right, get some experience with the truck and then figure out what it needs to suite your needs...There's been a lot of posts about guys spending cash on shit they don't need...If moneys really not a option, dump the D2 and buy a Defender...by the way, there aren't any awards for the most post in a single day... Ken, you might not like the looks of the RTE bumper, but form has it function, and the ARB doesn't have any form or function. It's a big POS... Frank | ||
| Ken Rountree (Krountre) New Member Username: Krountre Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2004 |
Is there any other bumper out there that is more than 1.5 inches wide. I just don't like the narrow look, and like I said, there's no function for me in approach angles. Is there a LR winch bar that would work with the OEM bumper, although I don't really like the air dam. | ||
| chuck yarbrough (Cptyarderho) New Member Username: Cptyarderho Post Number: 37 Registered: 06-2003 |
talk to Steve at Rovertym, they can do other things if you know what you want. I finally met him last week, extremely nice guy, and everyone I know who has a new bumper on a Disco has one of his. I have seen 'em in action, worth the money. Planning my build up for the D2, and RTE is what I am getting | ||
| Adam Ross (Discodriveradam) Member Username: Discodriveradam Post Number: 161 Registered: 01-2003 |
Now Frank, you know there are no dumbass posts. | ||
| Josh (Badassm0f0) Member Username: Badassm0f0 Post Number: 41 Registered: 12-2003 |
Sheldon, you said: "Maybe it's experience, knowledge and intellegence that got me the ability to buy what I want in the first place." you spelled intelligence wrong. Check Dictionary you suck, and are a no-go at the spelling station. haha | ||
| Brendan Kearns (Howboucha) Member Username: Howboucha Post Number: 199 Registered: 01-2003 |
I was in a good mood until I read this shit: Talk about arrogance: "Money is not a factor in my decision making process. I like to buy the best quality I can get. Name means shit unless it works. Thanks for all the advice." Here is my advice, get the fuck out of here you paranoid full of shit asshole. And I can't believe that some have responded to you with "Hang in there", etc. Don't be nice to this prick. You brought this on to your self. How dare you slam someone that is trying to help you out on your bullshit question. "I want to order a Husky Winch now" Shut up and go do it. We don't care. Spend some time doing a search on winches and bumpers instead of posting here how money is no object, I was poor, now I am not so I have a Disco. Who Cares? Dumbass. This is the typical crap where you will end up saying "and maybe we can all have a beer together". And for the life of me, I cannot figure out how you were able to post a three paragraph rant to a one sentence response that meant nothing inflamatory to you. You are paranoid. I can't believe it. You must be a Mensa too, (Remember that guy). If you ask for help, don't be a dick with your responses. And if you are so freaking rich, why did you buy a used Disco to play in the snow with? I just re-read your note. How dare you slam Dean and say he has no money. Christ I could kick your ass right now you are so god damn arrogant. Screw you! | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 334 Registered: 02-2003 |
Ken, check the TJM, it reminds me of the ARB. I wanted something with little or no profile, RTE fit the bill. Adam, we've all asked dumbass questions, but I don't remember being a arrogant asshole about it. Brendan, I'm with ya on this one. If the guy's got a shit load of cash, why buy a used D2? What ever... Frank | ||
| Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd) Senior Member Username: Discoveryxd Post Number: 356 Registered: 08-2003 |
"Well unfortunately you can't just buy experience, knowledge, or intelligence." I don't see what is so offensive about that? To me, what Dean wrote was directed to everyone. You could have a damn rock crawler but that doesn't mean shit if you don't have "experience, knowledge, or inteligence." "Common sense" should be included in there too. Don't assume the worst in people responses. | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 36 Registered: 01-2004 |
My apologies to Dean, if in fact he meant no offense... I definitely took that as an insult. Frank: I'm not looking for any awards from you or anyone else here. I was merely looking for information. I wasn't trying to brag, I was just responding to comments about budget, and what I thought were insults about not being able to buy brains (I used the word brains since I clearly can't spell intel...well you know). Josh, that ones for you. I don't spell check my posts. I type fast and get on with it. I don't have time to check that shit for lame dudes like you. I'll be watching for your next one though. Let's see if your posts are perfect. Better yet, let's do a search for previous posts mr. perfect. Brendan: 'Talk about arrogance: "Money is not a factor in my decision making process. I like to buy the best quality I can get. Name means shit unless it works. ' What is so wrong with that. The guy asked about my budget, and I said I wanted the best and wasn't concerned about the cost as long as it worked. Some times you pay more for the name and it's no better than another less expensive brand. Besides. How much difference in costs from the worst to the best. Not much I'd gather. With regards to having a beer together? I have news for you. I'm not here to make friends with you or anyone else. I'm not here to impress you. I couldn't give a rat's ass if you like me or think I'm an asshole. I will try and respect the opinions of others, but I don't take any shit either. Never have, never will. "Christ I could kick your ass right now you are so god damn arrogant." You could try. Man - and you call me arrogant. I have half a mind to track you down and teach you some manners. Bet you feel real safe behind that computer, doncha? Careful now... Dean: Thanks for the last part of your post with regards to the gear. That's exactly what I was looking for. No disrespect meant for your knowledge of Discos or whatever. I have no idea what you know about anything at this point, and I have no reason to doubt anything you say either. I'll be the first to admit when it comes to Discos, I know shit, other than I have wanted one for some time, I have one now and I am excited about tricking it out - not so I could be part of some club or go rock climbing or on trail rides - just for me and for what I do. If that's a bad thing, then so be it. I'll have fun being bad. I'm going to try and find time to call Steve tomorrow to see if he can do a bit of customizing for me and hopefully get that bumper headed my way. I'll research the winch you mention against the huskey 10. Thanks again. All: Sorry for posting so much and thanks for the help so far. I hang out in hunting forums, and I guess I was kind of like the guy coming in and asking what the best cartridge for deer hunting was, or what the best rifle is, etc. It gets annoying, but it happens. In my excitement, I didn't realize that these questions would be along those lines for this forum. Dean was actually being very helpful, but then obviously became annoyed with me, and fairly so. I was in fact using the search function, and had about 10 windows open at once going through what I could find. I also had a bottle of Jack on the nightstand. It only confused the shit out of me (the search returns - not the Jack - okay maybe the Jack too), other than the RTE's, which were being praised a lot. It was also very slow going and I wanted to get on with it. Anyway, I think I have the info I need for now. Later. P.S. Are there any awards for length of post? | ||
| Josh (Badassm0f0) Member Username: Badassm0f0 Post Number: 44 Registered: 12-2003 |
hey sheldon this ones for you buddy, how about you man up and just shut your cockholster. excuses are like assholes. ill be reading your posts from now on with my bullshit flag at half-mass. | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 509 Registered: 02-2002 |
badassmofo vs. rifleman. LOL Ho Chung | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 37 Registered: 01-2004 |
Hey Josh. You mispelled half mast, and there's no hyphen. Loser. | ||
| Josh (Badassm0f0) Member Username: Badassm0f0 Post Number: 45 Registered: 12-2003 |
hey what did i say about your cockholster? | ||
| Sheldon Charron (Rifleman) New Member Username: Rifleman Post Number: 39 Registered: 01-2004 |
You should heed some of your own advice dude. | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 510 Registered: 02-2002 |
sigh... Ho Chung | ||
| Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Moderator Username: Axel Post Number: 816 Registered: 02-2003 |
Josh and Sheldon: You will notice that your account status is now "on probation", and that this thread is closed. Consider this your first and last warning. - Axel |
