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Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 44
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I spoke with Bill Burke today, and also Steve from Rovertym. Bill really likes the Husky 10, but said something about it having liquid cooling and questioned it's performance in severe cold, saying that i might need to warm it up somehow before using it in -30 or so weather. He then suggested a Warn 9500 Planetary for my climate. I mentioned the ti, and his reaction was kind of, "they are all junk anyway." He laughed a bit so he might have been joking a bit.

Steve suggested a Warn, but said they are not great in the water and will also have to be disassembled after being submerged. Great. I don't need tthat job every time I come back from the bush. Washing my truck will take long enough! Originally he suggested an M12000 or M15000 if I didn't mind the extra cash (which I don't), but then he mentioned overheating being a major cause of failure on the Warns, and thus plugged the benefits of the 9.5ti that Dean suggested, in part because of the read out thingy that lets you know to stop and let it cool *before* it overheats and fails.

So....now I am more confused than ever. In the summer, we end up in muskeg and Red River (mississippi) gumbo, which usually is accompanied by lots of water, and in the winter, we have extreme cold down lower than -40 with the windchill.

I am impressed with the Husky reputation and the demo of it operating under water, but I can't find anything in the search stuff about the husky when it comes to cold temperatures.

Any of you husky owners use yours in extreme cold? Care to share? Steve needs to my choice ASAP so he can build my bumper to fit.

Thanks in advance,

Sheldon
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 1511
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

wind chill will have no effect on the winch. only actual tempature. so how low does it get normally.

when you are talking water proof Husky are you talking about the G10 Goodwinch type that Rovers North sells? or the standard Husky?
http://www.goodwinch.co.uk/


rd
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 45
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm talking about the one sold by expeditions unlimited or whatever. It' modified somehow I think.

It gets down to -30 celsius here all the time in winter. It will warm up during the day a bit to the mid -20s but we get lots of extended cold spells out here that can be -27 to -33 even during the day and still be out playing, as long as our heaters work. ;)
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Username: Deanbrown3d

Post Number: 1363
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sheldon,

IF money is no object and you're mechanically inclined, get the PTO (power take off) hydraulic pump from GBR (great basin rovers, attaches to T-case) and the 12K milemarker winch. And get a nice black-rat or tirfor hand winch to bring along just in case you ever stall somewhere bad.

When you install it, please take pics and write up something:-) (coz I wanna do this one day).

Dea
 

Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
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Post Number: 1513
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

let me know when you figure it out.
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Username: Kyle

Post Number: 581
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

For severe cold , just mix in some lighter oil with the gear oil when you fill it and have a nice day...
"Blow me"
 

John Lee (Johnlee)
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Username: Johnlee

Post Number: 804
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just pour out the gear oil bathing the worm drive and replace it with 100% synthetic gear oil. Done.


 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 47
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I didn't know that it was just gear oil that provided the "liquid cooling" properties of this winch. I run synthetic oil in all my rigs, inluding ATVs, etc. I haven't done anything in the Disco, other than have the dealer replace all fluids in the truck (transmission, diffs, etc.). I did not specify synthetic, but i think the manual recommends it as standard for certain parts (can't remember which). I will likely look into this in the future for all lube fluids in the truck.

I'm not mechanically inclined at all, and there is a limit to what i spend on things. I'm not an idiot (I know this is debatable on this forum) and I won't buy a brand new rig only to wreck it almost instantly. That's just dumb. I'm hard on my equipment and I break things often, so a used truck is the best thing for me. If I was too scared to break stuff or scratch the paint I'd never have any fun.

Besides, I'll probably beat this one up for a year or two and then look for a good deal on a 2003 and switch stuff over to it, then blow out the beat one. Trust me, when it comes up for sale, DON'T BUY IT! :-)
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 284
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Besides, I'll probably beat this one up for a year or two and then look for a good deal on a 2003 and switch stuff over to it"

That's about the dumbest statement I have heard in a while. We're not working with Legos here, you can't just do that. Things don't just pop together nicely. Why not just learn properly and keep the one you have nice. My 1999 with good manitenance is just as good as a 2003 model.

And please stop being pompous with the money thing.
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Username: Kyle

Post Number: 583
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sheldon , what the hell did that last statement even mean ?
"Blow me"
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
Senior Member
Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 285
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Translation:

Sheldon is going to modify his current Disco, destroy it, and then take the salvagable parts from it and put them on a 2003 model.

He then warns not to buy his first Disco due to previous destruction.

End of Translation
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Username: Kyle

Post Number: 584
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Relevance ?
"Blow me"
 

Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd)
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Username: Discoveryxd

Post Number: 361
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Besides, I'll probably beat this one up for a year or two and then look for a good deal on a 2003 and switch stuff over to it, then blow out the beat one. Trust me, when it comes up for sale, DON'T BUY IT!"


HOLY CRAP...!

 

Frank Rafka (Mongosd2)
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Username: Mongosd2

Post Number: 339
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

relevance...none
 

Brendan Kearns (Howboucha)
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Username: Howboucha

Post Number: 203
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I can't handle this anymore. Axel, will you please ban this guy? He keeps bringing crap up from the thread that got him in a situation in the first place. And constantly is bragging about his money. Not to mention all of the threads he has started about stuff that can be answered by a simple search. It's junking up the site and really bringing d-web down.

Please do something. I love this site too much to see it become this.

Brendan
 

Adam Ross (Discodriveradam)
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Username: Discodriveradam

Post Number: 162
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Brendan, that's seriously the whiniest thing I have ever heard.

I'll admit, some of his comments are driving me nuts as well, but get a grip. It's not that bad.

And the guy is on probation, so you don't need to plead to the moderators to do something; they already have, and his fate is now in his own hands.
 

Brendan Kearns (Howboucha)
Member
Username: Howboucha

Post Number: 204
Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Adam for bringing me to reality. Spend some time though looking at all of his posts (it will take a long time) and you will see what I mean.

I shouldn't have posted that publicly but I am getting tired of it. I could try to ignore his posts but damnit, they are everywhere.

D-Web is not about stuff like this. If it is then I seriously missed something.

Brendan
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Username: Thediscoho

Post Number: 514
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, January 26, 2004 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

brendan, discoweb is about all kinds of stuff. isn't this entertaining? LOL




Ho Chung
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 48
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't understand the problem here. Where am i bragging about my money? Everyone has hobbies. I'm sure I can keep my bumper and winch if I want, and maybe my roof rack and roof tent and switch it over to a newer model if mine gets too badly beat. The other day dash lights were popping all over the damn place.

What the hell kind of board is this anyway? Some kind of eletist haven?

Some people like to experiment and play with different ideas, okay? Man, I build wildcat catridges for rifles, buy new barrels, play with different loads, get tired of them and then take the barrels off, throm them away and try something else. Just when I get something shooting one-holers, i try new bullets and powder combinations and start all over. I did this even when I barely had any money in the world. It was my hobby. You have yours. Now I want to put a disco together. What's the problem.

Some of you really need to grow up. Am I supposed to NOT take these latest rounds as personal attacks too? I'm being told by some to calm down, relax and then this crap. My God. What a joke. Perhaps Axel needs to ban a few others on this board - the REAL trouble makers.

It appears there are some failry respectable people here who understand me perfectly. I have received several personal emails from members of this list already giving good productive advice off-board and offering support and understanding for what i am trying to accomplish. I will not respond to any more baited posts. I'll stick to tech talk only.

Ho.

I have my bumper and winch selected. it appears on further research that you are one of the partners in EE? Is this correct? I'll call you tomorrow about arranging delivery of my lift kit and other related gear if that's okay with you.
 

Thomas Abernethy (Toadisco311)
Member
Username: Toadisco311

Post Number: 49
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Perhaps Alex needs to ban a few others on this board - the REAL trouble makers."

Who is Alex? LOL
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 49
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Axel:

Is there like a discoweb charter or something that explains what the rules are here and what the mission statement of the board is?
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 1093
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sheldon - Sometimes there are better ways to handle things with fewer words. I have seen this before so let me show you:
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 1094
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Craig,

Please don't chime in on this topic. Your truck sucks and you drive like a ninny. Besides, you are part of the "Lounger" mentality that really gives this site a bad name. Please go away and stop tormenting people. Oh - and you suck.

/C
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 50
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL.
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 939
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

/C,

Fuck you.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 1095
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

See how well that worked Sheldon? I said all that bad stuff to Craig and with two simple words he shut me down hard.

The lesson: Sometimes the fewer words you use, the better.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 658
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cool
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 51
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Okay. Got it. Now I just have to wait until I'm off probation to test it.

Heh, heh.
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 290
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sheldon,
Maybe I am wrong, but I think they are making fun of you...
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 53
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Let them have their fun then. I have thick skin, and besides, it *is* entertaining... :-)
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 941
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I have thick skin"

For having thick skin, the badassmofo sure got under it quick...
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 55
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It's particularly thick across my knuckles. Heh, heh.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 660
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, I think the talk of trashing a used Disco maybe didn't go down too well? "... I won't buy a brand new rig only to wreck it almost instantly..."

We try not to do that, generally speaking. It's not a Jeep. If you can't have fun without destroying the vehicle, maybe a Land Rover's not right for you?

SC
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 1096
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

***WARNING***

Sheldon - you are coming very close to exceeding the 10 posts a day allowed to people on probation.
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 58
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

And here's post 57...

"If you can't have fun without destroying the vehicle, maybe a Land Rover's not right for you?"

And who makes those rules? I'll buy whatever I want, and do whatever i want with it. Fuck off.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Username: Thediscoho

Post Number: 520
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

discoweb doesn't have any lame ass mission statement. the site is what it is. it just is.
and if we had to explain more, then what fun would it be? :-)

EE? we got the new husky 10 in stock, ready to ship whenever you are.


Ho Chung
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
Senior Member
Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 291
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree Sheldon.
Now please stop bothering us here.

Nonsense threads like this one ruin the forum for people who have real questions and answers.
 

Matthew A. Barnes (Discoveryxd)
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Username: Discoveryxd

Post Number: 363
Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"And who makes those rules? I'll buy whatever I want, and do whatever i want with it. Fuck off."

Sheldon, what's up with the last two words of that comment?

There wasn't a hint of negativity in Steve's post.



 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 59
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just checking. Seemed like there were lots of "rules" or something I wasn't aware of...

I'll contact you in the morning.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
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Username: Curtis

Post Number: 1097
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Waitupaminute - Jamil, speak for yourself and don't tie the rest of the board in with your definition of "us". Not exactly your decision.
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Post Number: 943
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Fuck off." Indeed.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 662
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, it's not really a rule, and you are correct in saying "I'll buy whatever I want, and do whatever i want with it", it's your money.

***cough***Whiskey Tango***cough***, over and out.

SC
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 60
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 01:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm just following Curtis and Craig's system. :-)

Suggesting a LR isn't for me just because I ain't afraid to drive it is more pompous than anything I have said so far.

Those Jeep dudes must be cool! heh, heh.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Post Number: 663
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wasn't suggesting, it was a question, and you didn't say you weren't afraid to drive it, you said you were going to "wreck it almost instantly", big difference.

SC
 

Jamil Abbasy (Jamooche)
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Username: Jamooche

Post Number: 292
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry curtis for using "us"

I assumed we all felt that way.
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 61
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve.

What I was referring to, was the idea of buying a brand new range rover, or discovery and taking it off roading. IMO, any amount of damage to that vehicle, is wrecking it. I'm not so cautious with a $15,000 truck. Get it? Even if you don't....tough shit! As you said, it's my money.
 

Steve Cooper (Scrover)
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Username: Scrover

Post Number: 664
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I get it. The question is, will you get it when your truck dies miles from anywhere (it will) and you've told everybody that could possibly help you to "fuck off"?

SC

 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 62
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, I'm in Canada, so I'm way too far away for you and most of the guys here to bail me out. The intention is for me to be self sufficient. If my truck totally breaks down, a satellite phone and credit card takes care of the rest.

Damn my pompous ass!

Later dude.
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Post Number: 944
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm curious Sheldon, what led you to buy a Land Rover?

Have you considered an H2?
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 63
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My cousin owned an Hummer. He paid $100,000 for it CDN and it spent more time broken than running. He sold it. I understand they are better now. I plan on getting one at some point, if nothing else, to try it out. They are still a little rich for my blood when it comes to a play truck. Maybe when they drop a little more on the used market I'll pick one up. My 7 year old son has a poster of a big yellow one on his bedroom wall. He wants one bad. He still likes the "secret agent" truck I bought, but would prefer a hummer.

I have wanted a Disco for a few years, but my wife didn't warm up to the idea of getting another truck just for play. Thankfully, I don't have to worry about what she thinks anymore.

I must admit, I'm not sure about the little truck yet. With big snow packs on I had a hard time working the tiny pedals without hitting the gas with the corner of my boot while applying the brake. When in tight spots and in low gear, all you have to is glance that pedal and the truck wants to slip out of brake. I found myself working the brake with my left foot and the gas with my right when truning around on drifted roads and such just to be extra careful. I also find that I have a hard time getting the seat back far enough to get comfortable. I guess i'm used to full size trucks.... But hey! It *looks* cool! ;) Time will tell. I'm certainly no LR enthusiast....yet. I am enthused though. :-)
 

Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
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Post Number: 945
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Your cousin wouldn't happen to be named Steve, would he?
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 64
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Homer Fouillard, from St. Lazare, Manitoba. His was white.
 

Ron L (Ronl)
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Username: Ronl

Post Number: 259
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"The intention is for me to be self sufficient."

Rifleman...change your nickname to pointman.
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 65
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually, my nickname is pitbull, at least that's what my friends and business associates call me.

My license plate says riflman. Go figure.
 

Ron L (Ronl)
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Username: Ronl

Post Number: 261
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Back to the self sufficient. Why are you here?
 

Sheldon Charron (Rifleman)
On Probation
Username: Rifleman

Post Number: 66
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2004 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm ignoring you now...

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