| Author | Message | ||
     John B Pruitt (Jbp) New Member Username: Jbp Post Number: 2 Registered: 01-2004 |
does anyone know where i can find some good off road wheels while maintaining the clean look of the stock ones? Black is ok, but i would rather have the painted finish like the silver. Also, can i get a 15:7 or 8 inch wheel and run 35's as long as the off set is 3.75 or 4.00? thanks ahead of time for the advice. | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 788 Registered: 05-2003 |
John, I don't know what size wheels you have right now or if you have a D1 or a D2? I've got a D2 that came with stock 18" alloys. When I needed to get 16" wheels for my bigger mud tires, I was advised to let my dealership know that I wanted some "take offs". With these new bigger street wheels being popular, buyers are opting to change out to those. It takes patience and perservence to wait for a set, but I ended up with all 5 of my brand new 16" alloys for $150 each including installation. Since they are stock alloys they do maintain the clean look of the stock ones. Happy Hunting, Jamie | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 528 Registered: 04-2003 |
John: Buy used steel "spare" wheels if you have a D1, and paint them whatever color you want. Or get some steel NATO "Wolf" wheels and powdercoat those...look places like Atlantic British for ideas... Andy | ||
| carl seashore (Drcarl) Member Username: Drcarl Post Number: 114 Registered: 07-2003 |
John, put your tires on your stock wheels, and thus retain the stock look. your alloys (presuminig you have 16") are a far better wheel than steelies. | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 220 Registered: 05-2003 |
You may also want to consider used wheels. I have a D1 and picked up a set of 3 spoke RRC wheels at a junkyard for $50 each, and they came with a set of Cooper tires with about 70% tread life. I mounted a set of BFG mudders on the wheels, and use those as my offroad set. | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) New Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2003 |
Carl, Why do you say the alloys are better? Is it due to greater width, lighter weight? ... otherwise, I'd say the steelies are better for off-roading, they're certainly tougher, and won't get gauged like the alloys. -Alan | ||
| Andrew Maier (Newman) Senior Member Username: Newman Post Number: 532 Registered: 04-2003 |
Yes, Dr. Carl, please educate us on this...inquiring minds want to know. If you mean "your alloys look better than steelies," then fine, but that's an opinion. If you mean they perform better than steelies, let's hear something to back that up. Andy | ||
| Ray Gerber (Raygerber) Senior Member Username: Raygerber Post Number: 252 Registered: 09-2002 |
I had always heard one of the significant draws to Steelies as offroad wheels over Alloys is if they get bent or something you can actually use a BFH or the like to get them back in some kind of shape, which I don't think is an option with the Alloy wheel. As far as John's original question, doesn't Gulf Coast Rover (whose website doesn't appear to be up) make a 15" black wheel with the Land Rover's bolt pattern? Not sure the width though. In any case, I'd be interested in hearing the pro-alloy side of it. | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 791 Registered: 05-2003 |
What is a BFH? Thanks, Jamie | ||
| John B Pruitt (Jbp) New Member Username: Jbp Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2004 |
thanks guys for the "opinions", but i would like to know one thing. Carl said that i should put the 35's on my stock wheels. I would love to do that but it would rub the radius arms like a mad man. So, would a 2" wheel spacer do the trick? If not, how much off set do i need to gain my turning radius back? keep in mind i do not care if it rubs a little during sharp turns. thanks guys. | ||
| Steve Sherman (Ssherman) Member Username: Ssherman Post Number: 132 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jamie, A BFH is highly specialized tool that aides in the molecular realignment of anything bent. Also known in some circles as a Big F@#%king Hammer  Steve | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) New Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2003 |
John, I don't have the info readily at hand, but search the D-90.com website, there's info on wheels, specifically, which offsets certain ones are available in (besides, those guys run 35x12.50s a lot, and although the wheel wells are different sizes, they know who's got the biggest offsets) ... I think the wheels from GCR are AR Black Nugget wheels, available in 15" sizes, and have always heard great stuff about GCR. One of the drawbacks that I foresee with using the alloys is that when aired down, if you lose a bead, you're riding on the rim; not a big deal with steels, but could irreparably bend or fracture an alloy rim. ... just my thoughts ... | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 221 Registered: 05-2003 |
Since we're talking about wheels here...When I got my BFG's mounted on the RRC wheels, the tire guy commnted about how much pressure it took to seat the bead. the Alloys have a ridge behind the bead, so the bead is actually in a groove. seems like a good thing especially when aired down in sandy/muddy areas. Does anybody know if the steel wheels have this same kind of groove? Reason I ask, is one of my offroad buddies has had several flats (not punctures) and he runs on steel wheels at ~35lbs. | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 594 Registered: 07-2002 |
Nope Jaime, the steel rims do not have the extra lip. Dean will be able to pop the bead on a steal rim with the manual tire changer but never on an alloy rim.... ask me how I know... The problem with driving in the Pinnies is that the "whale shit" gets in between the tire and the rim so you have to clean that area pretty often. It seams to me that you guys need to find a different place to drive (notice I didn't say wheel or off-road... hahahaha). Stay warm buddy!!! John | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 539 Registered: 02-2002 |
disco1 steel wheels have the inner bead "lip" Ho Chung | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 595 Registered: 07-2002 |
You are right Ho, but doesn't Dean have the GCR rims? | ||
| Jaime Crusellas (Jaime) Member Username: Jaime Post Number: 223 Registered: 05-2003 |
C'mon John ya big wuss, join us for some real wheeling!!!  And there's always plenty of Dean's Burgers and Fresh trail brewed coffee! | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 541 Registered: 02-2002 |
all i know is that dean doenst' have the disco1 steel wheels. Ho Chung | ||
| Ryan Roundy (Rrefxut) New Member Username: Rrefxut Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2003 |
When I got certified on the newer higher tech tire machines and road force balancer, we were told that range rover wheels were the only ones whith this lip, and it doesn't go all teh way around, it tapers off to allow the tire tech to get the tire on and off without damage to the tire's bead. I'm not sure if they're on some disco's, but my '96 doesn't have that lip. Also peterson 4 wheel off road did a test on steel wheels vs. alloy's, using Weld brand if I remember right, where they ran trucks on just the rims, no tires, and a few ohter tests... the alloy rims pretty much held up as good as the steel ones. But Steve was right... teh steel ones will be much cheaper to bend back or weld a crack on if one is damaged. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1294 Registered: 09-2002 |
correct me if I'm wrong - AFAIK, all 15" and 16" wheels have the lip. 16.5"s don't. |
