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Nathan Cooper (Cooper)
Member Username: Cooper
Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:05 am: |
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Who here is running RTE rear links? I'm looking to replace my stock links, as they really are not straight anymore. I'm looking at the basic set, not the heim jointed. Thanks Nathan |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 317 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 12:47 pm: |
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i've got em' and i think that they are pretty nice. nice heavy construction and they have spacer to help with adjusting the pinion angle of your rear third member. worth the investment. marc |
   
Nathan Cooper (Cooper)
Member Username: Cooper
Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:04 pm: |
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Thanks for the info Pugs... i'll probably order them with my sliders this week. |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 319 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 02:57 pm: |
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good call! tell Steve that Marc's given' him a Dweb plug! you can't go wrong with the service! marc |
   
Nathan Cooper (Cooper)
Member Username: Cooper
Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 03:49 pm: |
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Will do, thanks again. |
   
Frank Dalton (Unscooter)
New Member Username: Unscooter
Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 06:55 pm: |
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I've got them from RTE, too, for a 2" spring lift. Very pleased. Make sure to ask Steve which sizes of spacers to use for your application. Frank |
   
Will Cupp (W_cupp)
Senior Member Username: W_cupp
Post Number: 323 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 08:15 pm: |
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Does anyone run the heim jointed rear links? My stock rear link mounts are badly damaged. I had welded angle iron to the bottom of the stock links, and it has held up well. But, the mounts are distroyed from draging them across rocks and such. Are there any "issues" with the heim jointed links? My springs are retained, so there is really no value for any extra articulation to me. |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 321 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 11:40 pm: |
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will, have you considered the frame sliders that Rockware makes? they help protect those low hangin' frame ears. marc |
   
Clif Ashley (Cta586)
Senior Member Username: Cta586
Post Number: 499 Registered: 04-2002
| Posted on Sunday, February 01, 2004 - 11:58 pm: |
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Will, I dont understand your comment suggesting that retained springs cannot benefit from more articulation. They will still stretch and provide more droop. Or are you saying that your spring stretch is maxed out? Just curious for my own knowledge, obviously you know your own truck. Thanks Clif |
   
Will Cupp (W_cupp)
Senior Member Username: W_cupp
Post Number: 326 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 09:18 am: |
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I think my spring stretch is about maxed out. Even with the OME N76 shocks, the springs limit the drop. The frame slider would have done some good if I would have already had it. But, now the mounts are junk. There still holding good, but need to be replaced. |
   
marc olivares (Pugs)
Senior Member Username: Pugs
Post Number: 322 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 05:07 pm: |
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will, you say that they are still holding, so as long as you truck tracks straight (not dogleggin') then i would cover them with a frame slider and fugetaboutit. mine look fairly gastly too, but they hold the trailing arm square so i've just left it. marc |
   
Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
Member Username: Mr_smith
Post Number: 213 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 05:35 pm: |
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Will There are good reasons why no car company would put "heim joints" on the front and rear links. Leave that one to specialized rock crawlers. If you floored it, stood on the brake pedal, or had to make sudden severe manuver, the truck will end up looking like a smoldering Explorer. That's also why those mounts are so low on the chassis as well. Any higher and you are playing with fire. Not sure what your fix is, but i wouldn't change those mounts too much. Randall |
   
Adam Ross (Discodriveradam)
Member Username: Discodriveradam
Post Number: 174 Registered: 01-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 06:24 pm: |
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Randall, would you care to elaborate about the heim-jointed rear links? I am close to purchasing rear links, and I am interested in knowing more about them (and why are they so expensive [on the RTE site] if they are so dangerous?). |
   
Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
Member Username: Mr_smith
Post Number: 214 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 07:01 pm: |
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Adam Ask RTE about the safety of it. They are so dangerous in the worst possible driving situations. Just a warning. |
   
Will Cupp (W_cupp)
Senior Member Username: W_cupp
Post Number: 329 Registered: 07-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 07:56 am: |
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I really dont see how they are that dangerous. Just look at a Jeep. No, it's not a heim joint, but it does resemble one. They are also higher on the frame. The only reason I can think of that car company do not use heim joints is because they make noise and dont last very long. |
   
Randall Smith (Mr_smith)
Member Username: Mr_smith
Post Number: 216 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 01:13 pm: |
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Yes that is another disadvantage of ball joint's in the links. They make wierd noises and they don't last very long. If you made a list of all the advantages and disadvantages of "heim jointed" rear links, you would find lots of disadvantages, very few advantages. But just do whatever turns you on. That RTE part does look like it's made well. You definatly have less steel to get hung up on. I used to have Rockware frame sliders. It would be cool to have longer front and rear links that met in the middle of the chassis. But again, the links length is a compromise between stability and flexibility. Randall |