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Author Message   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 12:41 pm:    I ordered a fender from ROVERCANNIBAL.COM over 10 days ago. After holding for several extended times, and talking to several idiots over and over, I found out that they hadn't sent it because they were out of boxes.   Norm Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 01:15 pm:    Well, crap, why didn't they just stick some postage stamps on your fender, shove it into a mail box and send it Priority Mail 10 days ago? Who needs a box? Sheesh!!! ---Norm   Anonymous Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 01:16 pm:    I think rovercannibal's prices and attitude keep most of us away anyway, but thanks for the warning   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 02:17 pm:    i think the name says it all?   JEspelien (Superj) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 02:36 pm:    Danger Will Robinson Danger!!! These guys are charlatans of the first order, nothing is ever quite as it is described. They make that fool in Big Sky look good at least his "good" parts are rebuildable cores. Run away, Run away!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 02:40 pm:    they wanted $250 for a used rear drive shaft. they didn't seem very organized. only getting back to me via email after i emailed them several times. i hate that.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 02:58 pm:    Norm, Are you the norm that I talked to at ROVERCANNIBAL.COM? Are you saying that I'm being unreasonable wanting my parts in a box? I think that ROVERCANNIBAL.COM were unreasonable to lie to me and tell me that the parts were already shiped. I also think that it was unreasonable for ROVERCANNIBAL.COM not to have boxes and for them to take 10 days to get a box.   Anonymous Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 03:09 pm:    they have a great website too...............not!   Garrett #2 Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 03:13 pm:    Apparently the link below begs to differ with all of the above complaints. Neal make sure you read #3. Go figure! http://rovercannibal.com/rover/expect.asp Just thought you would get a kick out of seeing this Neal!!   John C. Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 03:26 pm:    Neal, I had problems with them also. I would never recommend them to anyone. They are a bunch of pussies.   Anonymous Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 03:34 pm:    Ya know, I didn't want to relate my experience with them for at least two reasons... After being jerked around for far too long, I hung up on them and called a local boneyard... I paid half as much as Rover Cannibal wanted and that even included two-day shipping. As a result, the only thing I want from Rover Cannibal is a T-shirt. They do have a cute logo. Posted anonymously to avoid future embarrassments if I ever really, really, really, really need something and Rover Cannibal is THE ONLY source:-)   Mike H Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:07 pm:    I just had excellent service from the Rover Cannibal. I ordered a rear sunroof 5/15 and it arrived 5/22.. They also had the best price, LR Dealer in SF $400.00, British Import Junkyard in Sacramento $350.00, & Rover Cannibal $150.00   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 06:32 pm:    I wish I had your luck. My truck has been apart while I've been waiting.   Rover Cannibal Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:16 pm:    Gentlemen: I am posting here for the first time as we don't follow the message boards that are out there. A customer of ours brought this particular group of postings from this forum to our attention and I believe it appropriate to address the group at hand. Rover Cannibal is a start up and as with every start up there are hick-ups and bumps in the road. Add to that the 1,000 percent increase in email traffic on top of the phone activity a day and you find most start ups falling apart. We greatly apologize to those whom have experienced some of these bumps and hope to have that road leveled out your next time around should you choose to trade with us. For those few of you that feel RC has not delivered the quality of service and or product promised, please email [email protected] and tell us within reason what we can do to make your experience whole again. We want your business - bottom line - but more than that we want your trust as with most used parts establishments that is hard to gain. We are not perfect. We are not the only experts by any means and we are not lazy in our business practices. We are however, focused and honest about our window to the public. Bare with us as the last few growing pains are put behind us. Best Regards to all and Happy Rovering! Kurt Richichi President & Fulfillment Cooridnator www.rovercannibal.com   Larry Grubbs (Larryg) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:53 pm:    Mike H. Have you tried installing the sunroof yet? I ordered a part from them as well. Thought everything was great until I went to install it and it wasn't for my truck, not even my model. RoverCannibal sucks. BTW I suspect this guy works out of his garage and just travels to local junkyards to find parts. I grew up in Oklahoma and their's not very many Land Rover's there. There is only one Dealer in the entire state and I don't think they are a Land Rover Center, they just happen to sell Land Rovers along side other expensive cars. I'm not worried about mentioning my name. I don't care what they think. Just my thoughts, Larry   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 07:53 pm:    Kirt, I'm sorry but that sounds like a bunch of bull. I have been extremely patient about this fumble. Numerous times I have requested a tracking number and can't get one. I can understand hitting a bump or two due to your "growth" but I have hit dozens. I called a recently as today to get confirmation and a tracking number and the response I got was, "I think it went out, can you call back?" I'm tired of calling. You may email me directly at mailto:[email protected]   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 08:17 pm:    Just to put my 2 cents in, I've only dealt with Rover Cannibal once, and it was a pleasant and fast experience. I ordered a vacuum pump which the best price discountrover could do was $275, dealer was around $350, Rover Cannibal said $92 or something like that, I did have to pay extra for overnight shipping, but I expected that. All in all, I had a pleasant experience and I hate to hear of everyone else having such bad luck with these guys.. Maybe they'll send us all free t=shirts to make up for their shortcomings   Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 08:18 pm:    Ok Neal, you made your point. Take it private now. Axel, DiscoWeb   Dobie Disco (Mary) Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 10:26 pm:    Wow.   John C. Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 09:37 am:    No, Neal has every right to complain and warn others. These guys are a bunch of liars. They gave me BS for over 3 weeks telling me that the part was sent. Another week just to get my money back. Some of you guys might have had good luck with them but some of us have not. If they would have been honest with me from the start I would've not minded waiting for the part. But they kept blaming someone else and never gave me a straight answer. John C.   Mark Johnson Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:00 am:    Sure he does. He just don't automatically have the right to do it wherever he pleases. Any privately owned medium has a right to determine what can and can not be said using said medium, for whatever reason they choose. I have the right to stand on a soap box in the town square and yell "I disagree with John C!!!" but I don't have the right to paint that same message on the wall of your house. You see the distinction?   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:15 am:    Mark, If Axel is an owner of this site - your point is valid......if not, sloppy reasoning. ; ) I have no experience with Rover Cannibal, but as a frequent reader of this site, I am all for hearing people's experiences (good or bad). And I can totally relate to the frustration. Delays, I can accept if they are explained and if they are honest. NOTHING will piss me off more than getting the run around from or being lied to by a company.   John C. Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:27 am:    No Mark, I don't. I thought this board was here to help others, share our experiences, share pics and other stuff. That's funny, one of the guys I had to deal with at RC was a Mark. Maybe you are and maybe you are not the same person but I have a "right" to my own opinion and deductions. If you don't like what I write than don't read it.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:34 am:    Ax IS one of the owners and mostly moderates the boards when needed. He isnt being an ass or trying to quash anything for any reason other then us getting in the middle. Since you are using our house to paint your message on we could potentially get in the middle if we didht warn about things now and then. No messages have been removed and they wont be..... Kyle   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:40 am:    Hey Mark - looks like it was pretty good reasoning then! ; ) The analogy stands. Even though I have nothing to do with maintenance or ownership of this site and pretty much have no say whatsoever............I still like to see other people's experiences (good or bad and whether I agree or disagree)   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:46 am:    Jarrod, Axel is an owner of this site, so his logic is good...except for one detail: the board is a public forum. Once the exchange of information gets restricted on a public forum, it is really not public anymore ;-) That being said, I really do like to hear these opinions. It saves me the hassle. I would rather pay twice as much and know when my stuff will arrive than to pay less and know my money and products are now in the hands of boneheads.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:50 am:    Well I said this once and I guess I wast clear. Ax didnt quash the guy from saying anything on either side of the argument. The guy said what he wanted to say and Ax asked him to take it private from there on. The rest of you are giving them shit and giving Ax shit. He hasnt deleted any of it .... He simply got our disclaimer in there....... thats all. Kyle   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:57 am:    How do you get that you weren't clear? I am not seeing any argument with your message or stance in the messages subsequent to your previous post. I agreed that the reasoning was good when I found out Ax was an owner and Curtis just backed that point again. And for the record, I thought Ax handled it well and had no beef with what he said - I was just giving Mark shit about what I thought was flawed reasoning.   muskyman Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:57 am:    guys this is discoweb...hence guys like to bitch take it all for what its worth guys where bitchin about DEE a while ago and he's still standing forums like this are a wake up call to "start ups" as for hick-ups they do happen and if your diligeant the good words will outweigh the bad if the good cant outweigh the bad...thats life fact is if you mess with a discoweber people are gonna hear about it if you take care of a discowebber people will also hear about it and you may get a buncha buss. as a result. god I love capitalism !   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:01 pm:    Jarrod , I was busting Curtis's balls , not yours...... Soon you wil all be bitching about me... Hmm , maybe Ho needs to piss off someone.... Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:02 pm:    i got your forum RIGHT HERE!!!   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:11 pm:    But I can't bitch about you because then we will have the whole painting on people's houses dilemna come up again!! ; ) Cheers!   muskyman Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:16 pm:    kyle's like the bouncer at a bar...he can take all kinds a shit before he throws you out. but its still his bar   chrisvonc Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:20 pm:    This is a freely provided but privately owned BBS. The owners can say, do, block, promote, restrict, and suggest whatever they wish, whenever they wish. The fact that they rarely ever do, has lulled some people into thinking that moderation of threads needs to be put to some public vote or approval which is not the case. Chris von C.   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:22 pm:    Somehow he strikes me more as the type of bouncer I always was - took very little shit and liked throwing people out. Bouncers have to have fun too!   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:25 pm:    OK, I see a misunderstanding here that just keeps getting carried on. I, and I don't think anybody else, has EVER said that they don't have the right to block or restrict anything they choose. I simply said that for me (also stated that I had no say whatseover in the matter) I liked hearing the good and the bad. So what was this post originally about?? ; )   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:27 pm:    Kyle, No one is really giving anyone shit or busting anyones balls here except Rover Cannibal and everyone else. No need to bust mine Quite frankly, I held back on my complete opinion of Ax's post. I see his point, but I do not agree with it. Still - it has been made clear that this is not "my house" and I have to be careful what and how I paint. If anyone needs to be house painting just come over to my pad. I will have a bucket and roller waiting for you Curtis   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:34 pm:    ok , well , Blow me,,,,hows that ? Kyle   muskyman Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:36 pm:    I was a bouncer all the way threw college i learned to moderate as well as duck throwing guys out is never much fun keeping them in line is like playing par golf sometimes it seams totally doable others times you relize why bother   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:52 pm:    The sense of humor has been lost in this thread... Curtis   Dee Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:55 pm:    Oh this is fun, Kyle how long were you in the Bay Area? that Blow me thing has me concerned.. MM i thought about getting a coustom License plate called "PrtsWhor" LOL   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 12:58 pm:    LOL,,,,,,,,Curtis , a sense of humor is always just below the surface in most of my posts.... Dee ?? Shuddup.... Kyle   Dee Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:02 pm:    Kyle "Blow Me" LOL   Mike H Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:05 pm:    Larry, my sunroof came with all the parts and I had it installed in no time. I quoted them on other parts too and so far they have had the best prices compared to what I can find in CA.   M. K. Watson (Lrover94) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:05 pm:    ROFLMBWAO.....blow me..... it fits! mike w   Mark Johnson Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:12 pm:    "That's funny, one of the guys I had to deal with at RC was a Mark. Maybe you are and maybe you are not the same person but I have a "right" to my own opinion and deductions." John, I have no affiliation with Rover Cannibal. I have never used them, and probably never will. I prefer to use new parts. I am not arguing against your right to have an opinion, or to express it freely. My point is that this web site or any other privately owned medium has a right to decide whether they want to publish your opinion or not. It is up to you to decide whether or not you will allow me to paint my message on the wall of your house.   John C. Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:16 pm:    See, there you go...a happy customer (Mike H). Good for you Mike. I wish I had the same service as you did. I sent payment the same day they gave me a quote (via PayPal). Just curious, how did you send payment? I thought there prices were good also. I just think they dropped the ball with my order. Instead of being honest and letting me know that they did not have the part and were awaiting a shipment from a LR dealer they kept lying and telling me the item was shipped. Then when I tried to get my money back they kept giving me BS: first, they had a problem with their system and could not issue me a credit, then someone else was told to send me a refund but that person never received the request. Damn, we have over 500 employees and when I send a request to our Brea office it get's there in less than 5 minutes. They end up sending me a check almost 4 weeks after I payed them. That is certainly not a vendor I would want to deal with ever again. Hey Larry, great bumper you sent Adrian. We installed it last weekend. Have anymore goodies for sale? Ax, I should have said "Please Axle, do not remove his msg .... it could save someone some grief and aggravation from dealing with RC"... sorry man....it's my mexican grammar!!!   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:23 pm:    Mark, Please man, get off the house trip�OK? This isn�t a house. It is a discussion board. I rarely discuss things in paint on my house. It is a bad analogy. It is also kind of silly to sit there and argue that people can do what they want based on ownership. Any homeowner will tell you this. If I started painting messages on my house, I can promise I would be in trouble. Not just with my wife either. Sure the owners can do what they want with the messages, but does this mean that everyone is supposed to fall in line? Seems to me that the parties involved like getting opinions�right or wrong (BTW � mine are always right). It is all a part of the fun. Curtis   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:29 pm:    A bouncer who throws people out is missing the point. The term "bouncer" is missing the point too. The point is to keep people INSIDE so that The Man who owns the place can make MONEY, with which he can pay you, the "doorman". It's all about maintaining control & order so the money keeps flowing. draw your own analogies from that.   Mark Johnson Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 01:46 pm:    Yes Curtis, it's a discussion board, but it is a privately owned discussion board, and that is the point. Posting on it is not a right, it is a priviledge. Ok, enough with the house. If you state your opinion of something to your local newspaper, are they obligated to publish it? Of course not, it is up to the editor of the paper to decide on that. Same thing goes here. It seems that there is very few restrictions on this bbs, which is a good thing. Both sides of the argument were allowed to present their point of view, which was also fair. But when on of the owners of the board decided to draw the line when the thread looked like it was about to turn into a potentially libelous flame fest, people start to cry foul, because they mistakenly think they have a right to post whatever they want wherever they want. Too bad, free speach don't work that way.   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 02:04 pm:    Wow, now this is a talk about bouncers - how these things meander! A bouncer's job is to throw out trouble makers though, not keep them in to cause more trouble and to annoy your good patrons.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 02:14 pm:    Actually Jarrod that isnt correct. His job is to turn bad patrons into good ones. If that fails then escort them to the door if he thinks its not gonna get real ugly.... Kyle   Ron L Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 02:26 pm:    A good bouncer would pound the guy and make him drink off the pain. Its a win win with everybody that way.   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:03 pm:    I think it is correct myself. How many drunk patrons looking for trouble do you "reform"? In my experience, it doesn't happen much. But hey, you do it your way - I'll do it mine.   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:13 pm:    Mark, I think my point is lost on you, but I will try to give it another shot: The privelige comes from owning a connected PC and the fact that Ho, Kyle, & Ax are willing to manage, administer, and pay for the site. They are not giving me a privelige, but an ability and one that I am grateful for. If I decide to follow the rules it is because of gratitude and respect. It has nothing to do with free speech or the lack thereof. I will still post my opinions though and my stance holds that the RC conversation is appropriate. I don't need a lecture from you on the meaning of the 1st Amendment. Like your house painting analogy, it does not apply in this situation. Loosen up, man...it is all in fun Curtis   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:14 pm:    Hmmm , well Jarrod , in that lies the art.... Being a real big mother fucker probably wouldnt hurt in that career either... Kyle   Jarrod Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:22 pm:    Kyle, I am not exactly lacking on the intimidation factor, but that is what draws the drunk with beer muscles in, in my humble opinion. Kind of like my big ass friend that would get in fights every single time he wore his football team jacket out. Somebody always thinks they are a tough guy that will show the world how tough he is by messing with a big bouncer or a football player. I think you understand that more than you let on, but sometimes you just like to argue. ; ) Later man..   kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:24 pm:    Me ??? Like to argue ? Who would say such a thing ????????? Kyle   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:42 pm:    I think that the real issue here is that Axel told me to "take it private". I respect the moderators of DW and I certainly don't want to piss them off. Did Axel give a reason for me to stop commenting? No. Does he need to give a reason? No. Do I respect that? Yes. However, I do think that I should explain that I did think long and hard before I posted my response to RC�s general and public apology. Since I had already tried private means and experienced no response, I decided to respond publicly to Kirt�s indirect reply to my problem. Perhaps if I had expained why I responded publicly, Axel would have responded differently or even not at all. I am surprised what a stink this thread has become. I was even more surprised when I was asked to not comment further. I�ve never been aware of this board being censored before and I�ve read some pretty ugly threads in the past- never have I seen warnings. I simply was stating my experience and I thought that is what this board was for. The disclaimer on the BB page says, �We (the owners of Discoweb) will post our experiences with ownership of our Discoveries and we encourage all of you to E Mail yours if you think the info would be helpful to other owners. We will not however be held responsible for your actions,�� So far, this thread has been unbiased, un-edited, and even allowed RC to respond. (Is laible really an issue?) It all boils down to the fact that Axel didn�t like the �oh bull!� tone of my message. I apologize to Axel or anyone else that I offended. I will no longer respond to this thread. Sincerely, Neal PS- after all this, and I still don�t know if my parts were sent.   Kyle Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 03:48 pm:    LOL , well man , get your parts , I am quite sure the canibal is still reading.. Cannibal ??? Get the man his god damned parts for Christs sake!!! Kyle   Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 04:32 pm:    Ok Neal, let me clarify. If I thought that reporting your problem with RC was inappropriate, I would simply have removed the thread. If I thought it was inapproriate for RC to reply, I would have blocked them from doing that, but that would not have been fair. But once we know that there is an issue, I don't think there is a need to continue a public discussion with them on a bbs in order to get that issue resolved. If the situation hasn't been resolved in a week or two, you come back and post an update. And just as importantly, if the issue does get resolved, you report that as well. And yeah, liability could potentially be an issue.   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 04:56 pm:    Axel, Good explanation of your reasoning. It is a shame that we live in such a litigious society that the moderators of a board become liable over users conversations. Oh well... Curtis   David Dryden (David914) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 05:06 pm:    As my Grandfather used to say, "Your right to swing and flail your arms about ends when your fist hits my nose". Something to ponder... David   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 05:44 pm:    worked door for years at typical college bars and local dive bars with flowing booze & testosterone. I'm not physically intimidating at all. I never had a problem. Had plenty of shit thrown my way - punches, bottles, drinks, food, etc but that just means the unruly had a problem, not me. Those are the "lost cause" people who unfortunately must be asked to leave. Otherwise we can all get along and continue spending cash. It's all about the cash. People who want to "bounce" as an excuse to fight should hit the boxing circuit, not the bar circuit. Any successful bar owner knows that.   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:53 pm:    Blue, Damn staright! Sure is good to know that we are not short on house painting bouncers who can box. Curtis   Ron L Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 06:57 pm:    "Sure is good to know that we are not short on house painting bouncers who can box." Curtis, you crack me up! Ron L   Dee Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 07:55 pm:    So Neal what was it you ordered and has it been resolved? Front fender?   Dobie Disco (Mary) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:01 pm:    Neal, I'm glad you started the thread. Being a new LR owner, this bb has been very informative and I like the fact that not everyone agrees. That would scare me. I was surprised when you were nipped, because the comments seemed mild to others I've read (look at the hoopla with Alyssa and warranties). AND, you'd already provided your email in an effort to take it offline! Being a newby, just figured RC had an "in" with someone here and by being silenced, it caused them to immediately be removed from my resource list just as a matter of principle!   Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:36 pm:    You figured wrong, Mary. RC does not have an "in" with anyone here. If they did, do you think this thread would still be here?   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:14 am:    Dee, Nope.   Jarrod Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 10:12 am:    Hey Blue - I think you just agreed with the same point I was trying to make, yet somehow I feel there was still a "shot" in there at the end. Probably just my combative nature and natural tendency to fight though. ; )   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:16 pm:    Jarrod, I'm not taking any shots at you. You'd know it if I was. I think Kyle was the one squeezin your bean I do, however, understand your point that sometimes people need to literally be thrown out on their ass. About 8 years ago I was tossed out of a shithole by 4 guys - one on each arm and one on each leg. Threw my sorry ass right out the front door and I landed on all fours - knocked a contact lense right off of my eyeball. And you know what? I deserved it because I was drunk and fighting in someone's place of business. The last thing they said was "You should know better asshole, you work across the street." They were right. But the bouncer/doorman's job isn't to fight the patrons, just to keep order. I've been on both sides of that equation many times...but now I'm older and so much wiser than before   Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:18 pm:    "but now I'm older and so much wiser than before"... Now wait a minute, let's not get ahead of ourselves here... ;-)   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:36 pm:    shuddup lurker perhaps I should rephrase: "but now I have gray hair and I'm less of an asshole"   Jarrod Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 12:54 pm:    Blue, LOL.......That story, alone, made you sound like a kick in the ass to have a drink with! Or many drinks, actually.   mateu Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 03:23 pm:    I ordered a little bell housing access cover after mine disappeared. It's just 3.5 inches across and circular. A little metal disc basically. He wanted $10 for shipping. When I got it, it had the postage price on the USPS label. $1.90!!!!   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 03:58 pm:    that's only a 426% mark-up on postage for junk-yard parts. What are you complaining about? LOL   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 05:07 pm:    Again, I failed to reach Kurt Richichi @ RC. I'M SO PISSED! I just got off the phone with Hugh @ RC. They have not sent the parts yet! They do not have the parts, but they think that they might be getting a truck in soon that can take the parts from. (Axel, please feel free to remove this posting if you think that I've crossed the line)   gil Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 06:06 pm:    "shuddup lurker perhaps I should rephrase: "but now I have gray hair and I'm less of an asshole" ...im not sure thats an accurate statement either..   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 06:34 pm:    go buy a CT Honda and leave me alone....   Anonymous Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 08:28 pm:    CT Hondas whats this world comming too first 9-11 then this   Dobie Disco (Mary) Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 09:26 pm:    Neal, behave, you're gonna get axed!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 08:45 am:    mateu. have you not see the prices of bubble wrap these days!!! outrageous i say. about $8/S.F. lol.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 11:32 am:    I canceled the order with these clowns. I am now trying to get my credit card company to cancel the charge. I now have to fill out all kinds of paper work.   Ron Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 02:14 am:    "PrtsWhor" And Nathan could have: "PRTSPIMP" Either way you still got my business Tell others who does right by you and who does not! thatchedroofgarage and discountrovers, or rather David and Nathan (and Dee) get 99% of my business. Part of it is price, but most of it is that I know they are honest and will make things right. Neal I hope you get it taken care of. They (RC should be able to put a credit on your account over the phone). Ron   Axel Haakonsen (Axel) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 07:31 am:    I am speaking in general, since I don't know the facts in this specific case. No reputable vendor will charge your credit card until they are ready to ship your merchandise, so if an order was cancelled, there should be no charge on your account. Charging without delivering is fraud. Your credit card company can tell you right away if there have been charges and/or credits to your account. If there are suspect charges on your account, you need to notify your credit card immediately, so they can investigate. You will not be liable for fraudulent charges, as long as you notify the creit card company right away. Credit card companies take this kind of thing very seriously.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 09:58 am:    Axel, On May 13th, RC charged my card for $207. Yesterday, they charged another $201. My credit card company (Citibank) is issueing me a new card with a new account number to prevent them from from any more fraudulent charges. And Ron, you are right about DiscountRovers.com. I have bought a ton of stuff from Nathan and Dee and they are great to deal with.   Kyle Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 10:38 am:    Neal , what was the total on your order? Kyle   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 11:15 am:    Neal, Try Specialized British in Sacramento if you're having trouble finding (receiving)the "pre-owned" parts you ordered. http://www.britishrecycling.com/ Like Dee, Nathan, and some of those guys at EE, I would personally (amoung others) vouch for this guy. I've bought from SB twice, a set of Disco 1 Steel Spares and turn signal - received in the condition promised in less time than scheduled at the time of sale. There are plenty of vendors like SB out there - you don't need to put up with this ***t! Good luck, e   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 01:07 pm:    Kyle, The total was $207. Thank Eric. I'll Make a note of it. Ho convinced me to stop screwing around buy new stuff.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 03:19 pm:    Neal, sounds like you need to open up TWO 55-gallon drums of whoop-ass on Hannibal the Rover Cannibal.....   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 05:41 pm:    LOL...sweet use of font size Blue ;-) Hehehe   chrisvonc Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 07:21 pm:    My math adds it to be $408.   Kyle Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 09:47 pm:    Yeah Chris , thats what I was after , indeed some bullshit there. Companies are way too quick to charge that CC.... Kyle   Parts Whore Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 12:49 am:    Ron, Thanks for the Kind words.   D90_fan Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 11:23 am:    Well, I live within driving distance to Oklahoma city and am available for spec ops. Email me covertly... D90_fan   Michael Noe (Noee) Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 09:48 pm:    Holy fuckin shit, what a thread!! I was standing next to the pine tree when it jumped out in front of him and busted up his fender (sorry Neal)!!! What a cool sound it made, Neal, where's the video? Can't wait to see the new bar and winch.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 10:32 pm:    Mike, I sent the tape to Dan. He is going to put on on a CD. I'm sure if you give him your snail mail address he'll send you a copy. (get his email from the old thread) We need to plan another trip to GWNF soon. My truck should be done in a few weeks once I get my fender.   Greg Davis Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 11:56 am:    Neal, you don't have your fender on yet? I thought you ordered that thing weeks ago! Sorry, couldn't resist.   Neal Glessner (Nealg) Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 08:12 pm:    Very funy Greg.