| Author | Message | ||
     Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 536 Registered: 01-2003 |
I'm looking for a new laptop for my wife. I'm sure it will be taken on trips in the disco, but it won't be really used for that. She is a PHD student and needs to use it a lot everyday for power point, ms word, internet, ect. She has a Compaq now and I think it is the worst computer I have ever used. Maybe a stick got stuck in the processor last time it was in the disco but I'm guessing not ... Anyway it is not even a year old and the keyboard died earlier this year and I got it replaced, now the hard drive died and I am returning it tomorrow. I need a more reliable laptop for her. Any suggestions? I'd like it to have integrated wireless, but that's the only requirement. Also what about AMD processors? I was told once they don't do well with the heat of a laptop and loose cpu power over time because of that excess heat. Go with a pentium m? Anyone have really good luck with a specific brand? Thanks for any advice. | ||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1033 Registered: 09-2002 |
Andy, Have a look at the Toshiba Tecra S1. I just got one recently. Had a Dell Inspiron 4150 before and it died on me twice. Once for a HD failure and the second time I had the whole system board replaced. I don't necessarily find their customer service that great either. I'm sure others have had good experiences but I haven't and I have to deal with computers on a daily basis. The Tecra uses Centrino technology (made by Intel), has wireless/bluetooth features built in, combo CD/CDRW/DVD drive, built in modem and NIC. A pretty decent battery life (in part due to the new Centrino tech), dual USB, etc. So far it's one of the most user friendly and well thought out laptops for the money you pay in my experience. It's not going to be something you can drive over or run at -20 but it is better than most laptops. I've used IBMs, Compaqs, Dells, Scepters, Toshiba laptops and I still prefer the Toshibas. But that's just my opinion. Here's the link to Toshiba's specs on this particular laptop: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/pc/pc_prodList.jsp?comm=CS&plin=Portable%20Computers I think it will more than satisfy you're wife's computing requirements. | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 536 Registered: 04-2003 |
Andy, I have been building and repair computers for years...what I have found is most of the time you are just buying a name. (with a few exceptions i.e Panasonic tough book or the Walkabout XRT) If you want a laptop that will take a beating buy one that I just listed all others are pretty much fair game as far as what can break or go wrong. Most hard drives are made by just a few companies with very few differences. Motherboard may be made by anyone, but most of the parts come from the same companys as everyone else uses. Monitors - same thing. When I look at a desktop I buy parts (its cheaper), when I look at laptops, just buy one that you like (preferable without things like a backup drive similar to compaq) Backup up your data on you system at least weekly. If not, then be prepared to redo in the event of any major issues. My preferance for order PC/Laptop is www.internetIshop.com No I am not paid or affiliated by or with them in anyway. Just have received good customer service and no issues with items purchaed. | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 196 Registered: 08-2003 |
Andy - JMHO but I'd stay away from Dell laptops - - I've had 3 in the last 3 years (the company standard - what can you do) - each time they've fallen apart. The current one (about a year old - the battery catch is broken, screws keep falling out of the bottom, mouse wanders and the on/off button jams constantly. Jeff | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 137 Registered: 07-2003 |
Don't forget to look at the iBook or PowerBook from Apple. I'm still using my iBook from 1999. Although the style has changed and the power has improved greatly, the iBook is still a great laptop (my particualr model is built like a truck!). They are also 100% compatible with Windows, networks, files, etc. (they run on a UNIX based OS now). MS Office is available and documents created can be exchanged between Windows and Macs with no problems at all. Kenny | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 596 Registered: 07-2002 |
If you would like to find out who makes laptops goto this site: http://www.laptopworldwide.com/laptops.html | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 537 Registered: 01-2003 |
Thanks for all the tips. I called Dell on Saturday and absolutely hated the customer service. All I wanted was to check out what they could do for me and all I got was someone who really didn't know anything about computers and pressure to buy. No thank you, I'd rather not deal with that. My wife uses it everyday and it's most extreme environment of usage is my deck. I'm just quite unimpressed with compaq and dell right now. Backing up the files is always a priority with me. I am running one of those wifi networks at the house so I can dump her files onto a zip drive in my pc. This wifi and windows xp network thing is great. Any thoughts on AMD processors? An ibook ... hmmm ... my sheltered world of only using pc's at work made me smirk at that. But because she is a student, it seems all they use at university of utah is mac's, maybe I need to look at apple and think outside of my box. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 624 Registered: 11-2002 |
Thinkpad T series..... "Blow me" | ||
| Brian Rubin de la Borbolla (Brian___) New Member Username: Brian___ Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2004 |
From personal experience, I would buy an IBM Thinkpad in a heartbeat. They are fast, durable, stylish and have excellent customer service. They won't fight with you if you have a problem like Dell seems to like to do whether it be a laptop or a server. I have also had very good experiences with the Sony Vaios, but they don't seem to be as durable as the ThinkPads. If she wants the power to do whatever, then an Alienware Area 51m would be the bomb (albeit a bit heavier than your standard laptop). I haven't used any of the Tablet PCs but have heard that they are pretty neat. If your wife is a mac person, then I would most certainly buy either an iBook or Powerbook. They are pretty sweet. | ||
| Adam Ross (Discodriveradam) Member Username: Discodriveradam Post Number: 173 Registered: 01-2003 |
I have an HP Pavilion 5400, and I love the thing. I have taken it off-road several times, and the vibration has never bothered it. It's fast, and has great storage. Also quite stylish. Check it out. | ||
| Chris Gregg (Tofergregg) Member Username: Tofergregg Post Number: 47 Registered: 05-2003 |
I second the iBook/Powerbook idea. If it is going in the Disco, your best bet is an iBook. My iBook went everywhere with me in the Disco, and it fell on the floor during a fender-bender, got bounced around, etc., with no adverse effects. I now have a powerbook and it goes in the Disco, too, but I'm a bit more skeptical that it won't get scratched up. Oh well, I'm not worried about it. As for the programs for your wife, she'll be able to use all of the ones you mentioned without any problems. -Chris | ||
| Chris Gregg (Tofergregg) Member Username: Tofergregg Post Number: 48 Registered: 05-2003 |
p.s. MicroCenter.com has a last-gen iBook on sale for $799, which would be more than adequate for your wife, I imagine. http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0169459 | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 625 Registered: 11-2002 |
LOL , worthless ass mac....When ever I see them I hear "The south is gonna rise again!" That thing aint even heavy enough to be a good boat anchor... "Blow me" | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1299 Registered: 09-2002 |
Kyle, there's some similarity between ownership of a land rover and a mac. "Anything but mainstream." 10 years ago Macs beat PCs by far and large - now... it is sad. My $1199 HP notebook's lived through hundreds of landings while running - I'd say it is more than a fender-bender. And I don't have to worry about mail client not being able to open an attachment, or powerpoint stuff on a funky side. | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 626 Registered: 11-2002 |
There is really no need for MAC but I still see these "Die hard mac users" that go on and on. More then half of them dont even know that MAC isnt really even MAC anymore. Its more like Linux... And the thing I love is MAC reps telling you how many new features that a new OS version has that makes it so much more "Like a PC". How bout just skip it and get a PC ???? lol I would hate to see them go I guess , who would we make fun of then ?  "Blow me" | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 139 Registered: 07-2003 |
blah blah blah - MAC's are far superior in so many ways..mwuha hahaha I'm a die-hard MAC fanatic...I didn't know MACS were linux? Oh wait - that's because it's not. It's a UNIX OS that has proven to be far more stable than ANY Windows OS. It's not trying to be like anything. It is what it is - a superior machine. That's why only the SMART people use them...mwuhahahah - now everyone - switch to MAC - RIGHT NOW! Kenny | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 627 Registered: 11-2002 |
LOL , yeah , only smart people use them.... How bout Gnome ? Its a played up Gnome.... Even looks like Gnome... Far more stable ? LOL , where do you come up with this ? from being a MAC user? Or from supporting MACs ? Our site has a 250 MAC user count. Its keeps four MAC techs busy all day every day...Seems to me that 250 is about what microsoft reccomends one tech for.... MAC=SHIT... If you want unix then use unix from the command line... "Blow me" | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 140 Registered: 07-2003 |
UNIX is an OS, it's not a GUI interface. Apple created a GUI to sit on top of UNIX and allow normal people (no offenses to the programmer geeks) to use the system without having to know UNIX commands. You can use the command line at anytime in MAC OSX. MACs are not for everyone. Most people are afraid to do something different. We call them lemmings...can't decide for themselves, so they use what everyone else uses... No big deal really... | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 628 Registered: 11-2002 |
LOL , see , there it is. NO , people use what works... We call that productivity... And it is a very big deal... FOr PCS anyway since they pretty much run corperate America "Blow me" | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 629 Registered: 11-2002 |
And um , Gnome is a linux overlay.... The new mac isnt "Different" its simply following something else already out there that no one really uses... "Blow me" | ||
| John Cinquegrana (Johnc) Senior Member Username: Johnc Post Number: 598 Registered: 07-2002 |
We just got in a few IBM T40s... nice laptops, slim, light, great resolution.... IBMs service is excellent... Quick story about Dell: we purchased 400 Dell GX260s last year (I think my boss got a kick-back from Dell), anyway, one of the PCs catches on fire. So we put the fire out with an extinguisher and call Dell to let them know what happened. The PC was only a month old. 20 days later (yes, twenty) they send me a HD, power supply, RAM, CD ROM, processor, etc. I call them and ask them WTF is going on, we need a replacement PC and not the parts. And even if we needed the parts we would need the power supply which is what caught on fire. Not only that but the inside of the PC was soaked in Fire Extinguisher goo. Well we finally got a replacement two months later... yep, two months!! Three weeks ago one of the Execs gives me his IBM A20 laptop and tells me his screen broke (hinges were all busted). Called IBM and the next day they had an empty box so that I could ship the laptop back to them. Two days later the laptop was returned with a new screen, tested, washed and waxed. Our company purchased the first 500 IBM Personal Computers (remember those??) and we continue to purchase all IBM servers because of their customer support. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 141 Registered: 07-2003 |
Yes, you are correct - as usual. | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 538 Registered: 01-2003 |
Yea, but MAC's are pretty to look at, most PC's don't have any style. At work I use a Xeon on an intel board with that hyper treading technology 1gb of ddr and two 256mb video cards runnig two 21" sony trintrons. Using xp pro it has to be the most stable trouble free system I have ever seem, I crunch numbers and hugh jpegs for up to 24 hours straight sometimes. And still no problems, damn thing is ugly, our computer guy uses server cases to build them up. We work with an architechial firm running all Macs, there nice looking in translucent black or white, but everytime I need something from them they seem to be having computer problems. They have 31 employees and 2 full time computer techs, we have 47 employees and one contracted on call computer guy. I swear living out here in the land of linux and SCO I really have to wonder about why people have a need to fight pc's or windows. They work and are productive, to a user thats what's important. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1107 Registered: 05-2002 |
Andy - I would try PC Laptops at www.pclaptops.com . I know a lot of satisfied locals who own them. They are even more militant that the Mac crowd. At first I thought they were one of those cheapo companies, but they are not. They use first class everything and charge like it too. However, they are local and will warrant and service it like no other (so I hear). I have an IBM TP R50p - what I thought was the best of the best. It has been a real pile of crap. HD froxe up in Portland week before last. Screen went out last week, and to top it off the handle on the case broke. The damn thing is only six weeks old!! In the mean time I have been stuck using a PowerBook 17 (Mac). It is truly an amazing machine...except I can't run Visio, MS Project, or any of the apps we use in the hospital unless I emulate Windows via Citrix or the infamous Windows emulator. Beyond the fact that it is useless to me, I love the Mac | ||
| Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Senior Member Username: Jkatka Post Number: 282 Registered: 02-2002 |
I have a Powerbook Ti, at work I have a IBM A30p. My advice is buy a IBM, Kyle recomended the T series and it is a good line of laptops. Some of the newer guys at work have them and they are a bit smaller and have much better battery life. I like the IBMs' because the hinges are quite strong. The plastic they are made with hides scuffs and the keyboard is quite comfortable for a laptop. There is also quite a bit more maping software for Windows. I don't feel like the Powerbook is up to as much abuse as the IBMs if you are going to take it on an excursion in the truck. I enjoy osX and have not had problems with the laptop but apple is not making hardware as sturdy as they use to. My $.02 JK | ||
| BW (Bwallace35) Member Username: Bwallace35 Post Number: 89 Registered: 07-2002 |
I've owned PC's and MACs. Get a MAC and here's why: 1. Stable OS-four years and hasn't crashed yet. 2. No compatabilty issues. 3. Software-hands down, the best multimedia suite in the industry. Everything works together. 4. Music- If you like music - you'll love a MAC. Seriously- if your wife was into gaming - I'd recommend a PC, but if she is using the computer for anything else- get a MAC. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 142 Registered: 07-2003 |
My suggestion is to look at the MAC. Go to apple.com, or better yet, go see one in person. Yes, there are 9.75 people to 1 that don't use MACS and therefore have nothing intelligent to say about them, but it is a viable alternative and it is manufactured very well. I use both Windows and MAC and I am extremely pleased with the ease of use of MAC. I would never say that one is better than the other in every way - just that when you want ease of use, no configuration hassles, and software that just works - Apple has the best alternative to Windows. Period. Kenny | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 205 Registered: 08-2003 |
The dreaded OS debate. I use both win2k, Linux and Solaris. I have to say at this point that I'd probably switch to an all solaris/linux environment apart from one reason - applications. Most things I can get done easily on linux - the biggest issue I have is findig ports for things like Sniffer Pro, Adtech AX4000 tester, ixia and smartbits - they aren't about or at least I've never been able to find them. The best suggestion I could make is use what feels comfortable to you. Not what the purists/zealots feel is superior. shutdown -h now Jeff | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 570 Registered: 11-2002 |
i owned a thinkpad from 1986 to to 1997...same one never had 1 problem with it...not one. then I bought the top of the line dell inspiron 5000...at the time 5$$$...all the bells 512 ram dual 800cpu's, the damn thing crashed more then a go cart at a track across from a bar! Dell then replaced it after 2 years of mental pain dealing with it. they gave me a inspiron 8100 with dual cpu's 512ram and all the bells. that has been a very stable unit except it has had 2 power cord failures and the batteries dont last more then 25 mins from a full charge making it worthless as a laptop . my nephew has had the exact same power cord failure 3 times! and his batteries suck just as bad. I had won a IBM think pad a year ago at work and it had just sat in my closet for a year untill my last power cord failure on the dell. I pulled it out loaded it up and I am using it now with no problems what so ever. and as my first THINKPAD lasted 11 years this one seams to feel very solid and I expect it to last a long time. Thom | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 143 Registered: 07-2003 |
I had a ThinkPad at a previous job. I always felt that those were the best made laptops for business users. I couldn't afford to buy one for myself. The company sprung for the really large screen and everything...awesome machine. Kenny | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 812 Registered: 05-2003 |
I've been using a Dell Inspiron 8200 for almost a year without any problems. Whatever you choose, invest in a pelican case to carry it in. I would have totally destroyed mine by now if I were carrying it in anything else. I had to decrease the inner foam to get mine to fit in it - but, it does an excellent job of protection. It's cheap insurance for your hardware and your data. The case also makes a nice "desktop" when I use my laptop on the ground. Somehow a thick hotel towel bathmat ended up in my cargo area. I have no clue where it came from, but it makes a great clean and dry non-sliding surface between my computer and my case when it's damp and/or dirty on the ground. Jamie | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 813 Registered: 05-2003 |
Uh oh - I'd better revise my post. "No problems" except for when I vacumed it - but it survived | ||
| Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle) Moderator Username: Kyle Post Number: 631 Registered: 11-2002 |
The dells are simply the worst.... "Blow me" | ||
| Greg Bright (Gregd2) Member Username: Gregd2 Post Number: 131 Registered: 06-2002 |
I've had 5 IBM thinkpads and never had one problem with any of them. I started with 2 different 600x's, then had a T20, T21, T23, and for the last year I've had a T30. They've all been fantastic. My company leases them and I switch out after a year and a half or so. I'm about to get a T41 in a couple weeks. I've never had to buy one myself, but if I did, I would definitely buy a Thinkpad. Great laptops, very reliable, easy to use, and I like the way their setup. I hate my wife's new Dell. I can't stand the touch pad mouse and all the drives are external (DVD and floppy). They say it's to make the smallest, lightweight notebook. But, if I have to carry a bag full of external drives, what's the point. | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1301 Registered: 09-2002 |
C'mon Kenny... For two years in my life, I've had an HP9000 to myself, and used my friend's Mac for Mathematica and document formatting. The HP crashed regularly, and to me it was either to hang around and wait for sysadmin (who knew jack about HP-UX and was unable to use the manuals), or fix it myself. The Mac was awesome - but it was 10 years ago, when PCs sported Win 3.11! Now, the Macs got better - say, twice better. But PCs got ten-fold better, and there very few OS problems starting with Win2k (at least, as far as stability goes). | ||
| Andy Thoma (Andythoma) Senior Member Username: Andythoma Post Number: 539 Registered: 01-2003 |
Curtis- I talked with those guys at www.pclaptops.com today at one of their stores. Nice looking stuff and excellent customer service. They reminded me of EE, a Korean owns it and likes guns (there are pictures on the walls of him shooting) also they believe in not selling crap. They make no laptop below $1500 but that's what I paid for this pos compaq. I think I might end up with one of those. I found out that I can get a educational deal from the univeristy of utah, where my wife teachs, on macs and ibm's. So I need to look into those deals too. If I can get a 2k laptop for 1k or less, it would be hard for me to pass up a deal like that. It seems all of my wifes cohorts and fellow professors and ta's all use macs. I prefer to stay with windows os, but she may want to change to a mac. Although I am looking into finding this computer for her it will be hers, so she has to be happy with it. I just don't want to end up with a pos again. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 144 Registered: 07-2003 |
Sorry Peter, I should never make statements like that. There is always a story about how much better Product A is over Product B. What I should have said was: UNIX is an amazing operating system that is generally used on very high end servers that require the highest uptime and lowest maintenance - it sure is nice to have that type of OS on a desktop! Kenny | ||
| Leigh Mikolajczyk (Leigh_m) New Member Username: Leigh_m Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2004 |
I have had a gateway since 1999. The only thing I had to do to it was put a battery in it. I finally bought another one just to upgrade and the old one is still running great at home. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1108 Registered: 05-2002 |
Andy, "I found out that I can get a educational deal from the univeristy of utah, where my wife teachs, on macs and ibm's." You can get an educational deal on anything there through your wife. Software, hardware of most any make, and accessories. The reality is that the margins do not support any significant discount on hardware. I work for the U and bought my IBM through IBM's web site. The only way to knock a $2000 laptop down to $1000 is to go through Product Reclaimation and get a used one. Email me offline and I will tell you how to do this through your wife. Still - it will be used and who knows what happened to it before you got it. "I prefer to stay with windows os, but she may want to change to a mac." Yeah...ummm, again - email me and I will let you use my PowderBook 17 over the weekend. It is a purdy machine and runs OK. You still have to deal with software and there is about 20% as much software available for Mac as Windows. Software drives hardware decisions and that is the main reason the real world is a PC world /C | ||
| James Moy (Jmoy97) Member Username: Jmoy97 Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have a panasonic toughbook w2, dell m60, dell d600, fujitsu p5000D, Sony tr2ap3 and an IBM t40. Go with the panasonic toughbook w2 I love that one! It is the one I use the most. With the panasonic I never worry about it getting beat around. I have owned a powerbook 15" broke the screen during a flight by opening it a and picking it up opened and the screen fell off. Durability is a must for me with good performance. For what you are looking for in terms of use go with a Centrino line processor (pentium m). But opt for 802.11 b/g or if possible in the config 802.11 a/b/g wireless. This is just my opinion based on usage with travel and day to day use as my main computer. There are quite a few places in SLC that have free wireless. | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1109 Registered: 05-2002 |
I agree 100% with the Centrino. It really does extend battery life by a large margin. With one Li-Ion battery installed, one spare, and an Ultra Bay battery for the full power switchover I get a full 12+ hours of use. Great on long trips. Don't be fooled by the low numbers as the processor scales according to need. My 1.7G Centrino benchmarks at almost 3G. Just one addition to the 802.11a/b/g argument. If you have 802.11g then you have a & b as well. That was the whole point of the 802.11g standard. While a & b run on thier respecive standards, g runs on both. Likewise, an 802.11g WAP will recieve on both a & b signals. | ||
| han chung (Hanchung) Member Username: Hanchung Post Number: 149 Registered: 10-2002 |
T40... awesome machine. dual battery setup... and you'r set to go. also no need to get inverters and shit for the car. get the ac/dc charger you can go either way at home or in the car. monitor hinge is awesome too... no squeaks... stops at any angle. you'll find so many other laptops out there w/ very nice graphics, hd size, screen, cup holders... all the pretty stuff. all for your personal convenience or simply said... just clusterfuck. T40 is awesome for work/business simple and straight forward. very compatible anywhere you take it. very compact, thin and lightweight. very plug and play. got a good deal on my T40 so spend the rest of the money on ram... comes std w/ 256 or 512 and both w/ empty slot for additional memory. i have 768 never had this much ram on any of my desktops let alone on a laptop. it's nice to have enough. good luck | ||
| Perrone Ford (Perroneford) Member Username: Perroneford Post Number: 231 Registered: 02-2003 |
If you can afford a Thinkpad, buy one. I am amazed at the number of Dell issues you guys have. For work, I've probably bought 400-600 Dell laptops. I've never had any significant issues with them. Here or there I'd have a bad mouse port, or a sticking keyboard. My GF just got a dell Inspiron on my recommendation back in November and loves it. She's a real estate agent and lives on the thing. I had a Winbook and it worked great for me for the most part. Don't recommend the company though. I have a VAIO now and it sucks but it works. The built-in firewire connection is REALLY handy. I've had Thinkpads (bulletproof) and a few others as well. Good luck with your purchase. -P | ||
| Peter Matusov (Pmatusov) Senior Member Username: Pmatusov Post Number: 1323 Registered: 09-2002 |
Perrone, nearly every Dell laptop at work eventually lost electrical contact between the screen and the main case. It rarely happened at once, more likely, the owner/user had to live with shitty image for a long time. That's true that these laptops are used not quite in the office environment, but... I'm glad I bought myself an HP and not used a company's Dell. | ||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 820 Registered: 05-2003 |
Peter, What happens when electrical contact between the screen and the main case occurs? Thanks, Jamie | ||
| Jeffery Joel Smith (Wolfman) New Member Username: Wolfman Post Number: 18 Registered: 09-2003 |
Andy, I have an IBM thinkpad at work - love it. I have a Toshiba at home its fine too. |
