| Author | Message | ||
     Michael Slade (Tawayama) New Member Username: Tawayama Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2003 |
I've posted this on several other boards, and am posting it here in the Disco section because it gets the most traffic. One of my clients is putting together a feasibility study for the manufacture of custom LR rims. He is asking me to take an unscientific poll and see what the attitude is regarding alloy rims with backspacing and rim sizing that is not currently offered. Since the D2/RRIII crowd are getting their rim needs met by the aftermarket, he is specifically looking at the D90/D1/RRC market. He is thinking of coming out with an initial release of 3 rims, at least one of which would be beadlocked. So...let's hear what sizes/backspacing/widths you guys would want. Styling is his gig, so I'm not specifically asking about that. Don't be shy...let's hear it! If you don't ask for it don't complain when you never get it! Thanks for any input. Hopefully these will actually see their way to the market. Michael | ||
| Aaron Owens (Aaronowens) Member Username: Aaronowens Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2002 |
Michael, I may be missing something but I only know of two or maybe three sources of wheels for the D2: Stock & the ones that Atlantic British or others sell. I may be wrong though. I know you didn't ask about D2 but I wouldn't mind seeing some wheels out there that had maybe another 1/2 - 1" of offset further than the current steelies from AB. Thats just me though.  Aaron | ||
| Steve Sherman (Ssherman) Member Username: Ssherman Post Number: 135 Registered: 11-2002 |
Michael, My findings are the same as Aaron. I'd like to be able to find a nice 16" or 17" x 8" wheel for my D2 with the proper offset and possibly in a bead lock design. Steve | ||
| Michael Slade (Tawayama) New Member Username: Tawayama Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2003 |
When you say 'further' are you talking in or out? I thought there were several aftermarket rims for D2. I appear to be wrong. Thanks for the heads up. | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 1137 Registered: 08-2002 |
Copied from my reply on the Pirate Board..... "Hmmm. Maybe I've been looking in the wrong places, but I can't find anything other than the Atlantic British steelies for DII's. Sure, you can find the 5x4.75 (not a perfect match for the correct 120mm, but it works) pattern in a few wheels, but short of a custom wheel, NOBODY offers the backspacing neccessary. Stock is 16x8 with 6.5" backspacing. Most you can normally find aftermarket is 4", with the above mentioned steelies in 5" but they are only 7" wide. I'm looking at getting a set of daily/snow/sand tires in the 315/75-16 size, and there's no way they'll fit on a 7" rim, and 8.5" is reccomended, so that only leaves custom, or stock alloys (which I sold!). Anyway, my rant is over. Just wanted to let you know that the DII/P38 pattern isn't as common as you think." | ||
| Rick Neff (Lostinboston) Senior Member Username: Lostinboston Post Number: 280 Registered: 06-2003 |
There are a lot of rims for the RR which will fit the D2. non of which would be good for offroading but 24" spinners would be great 3rd set. Finding the backspacing on an 8" rim is impossible. Stock alloys with wheel spacers is the only way. Im too cheap tobuy custom rims anyways. | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 543 Registered: 04-2003 |
I agree with the too Cheap to buy custom rims....I bought a set of RRC rims for my Off road rims... If I were going to buy anything new, they would be steel ones anyways... they will bend, not break. | ||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 328 Registered: 12-2002 |
ok, so other than Greg, no one has really answered Mikes question,? Mike, i measured a spare wheel in my shop (ANR5307) that came on a 99" D1, it measured 16x7 w/ 5.5" backspacing. i would love to see an alloy wheel in the 16x8 or 16x10 with a 4-5" backspacing. these sizes would seem to cover the 235/85 thru the 315/75 sized 16" tires. and while we're making a wish list, how bout' a 15x10.5 with a 4.5" back spacing, that would cover the "cheaper" 15" sized tires from 33x10.50 to 35x12.50. oooooh man, 35x12.50 on a beadlocked alloy wheel, i'm getting wet just thinking about it!!!!!!!! of course this is for the 5 on 6.5" patterned wheels (RRC,D90,D1) i personally would be very interested in an alloy 16x8 with a 4-4.5 " backspacing. marc | ||
| Michael Slade (Tawayama) New Member Username: Tawayama Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2003 |
This is good guys. I'm seeing some sort of concensus as far as what you want. Bending vs. breaking is another thread. Sorry I can't help you with that one. | ||
| Tony Zuniga (Tony23007) Senior Member Username: Tony23007 Post Number: 266 Registered: 05-2003 |
Is there any way your friend might import some wheels already in the British market for RRC and D1!!! I've seen some advertise on some Land Rover magazines from the UK, but they are not available here in the US. | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 1139 Registered: 08-2002 |
Don't know about the DI's, but on a DII if you have anything less than 5" on a 7" rim-probably 5.5" to 6" on an 8" rim of backspacing your tires will contact the fenders when articulating. The farther out your wheels protrude, the less you'll be able to stuff your tires. That's why it's so critical to get the proper backspacing. I'm looking into getting some custom steel wheels made that are 8.5" wide. I figure that's the widest I can go and still have the tires under the fenders enough to allow them to stuff. Think of this. The AB steelies are 7" wide w/ 5" of backspace. This leaves 2" protruding, compared to the factory 8" w/ 6.5" backspace, whcih leaves 1.5" protruding. So, the AB steelies, while 1" narrower, protrude .5" more than stock. Even with these wheels, I've managed to cut my lugs by going through intersections and over RR tracks too fast. If you stick the wheels out even farther (by decreasing the backspace) you'll have even more problems, and will contact the fenders when stuffing your tires. Right now, at full stuff, my tires just barely (and I mean you can't put your fingers between the fender and tire) clear the sheet metal. Sorry for the long post, but wanted to make sure my experiences and experiments haven't gone to waste. | ||
| Rich Lee (Rich_lee) New Member Username: Rich_lee Post Number: 23 Registered: 02-2003 |
Michael, To confuse matters worse, I would like to see properly backspaced wheels in 15"x7", 15"x8" and 16"x7" for the DIIs. The reason is that many taller tires that will fit into the DII wheelwell are not recommended for 8" wide rims (e.g. 235/85-16 and 245/75-16). These tires fit well on "dual-purpose" unlifted DIIs and 4.0-4.6 Rangies. The 15" ones are ideal for less expensive tires. While you're at it, is there a 16" or 17" wheel that will clear the suspension and calipers on the Newest Range Rover? it would be nice to fit a set of decent offroad tires on an unmodified truck that did not have low profile sidewalls. As to wider wheels for DI, RRC, D-90/110 & series Rovers, Michael Green at West Coast British in Livermore CA used to have some wider Compomotive alloys. I don't recall if they are 16x8" or 16x10". Give him a call. Good Luck, Rich | ||
| Lee R. Byrd (Mobile) Member Username: Mobile Post Number: 75 Registered: 07-2003 |
If it works out see if the third party would make the beadlock DOT approved. Also, a self contained air inflation and deflation unit would be nice it doesn't hurt to ask. | ||
| Aaron Owens (Aaronowens) Member Username: Aaronowens Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2002 |
Michael, I meant I wouldn't mind seeing another 1/2" or so out meaning the tire would protrude further out giving more track width. Aaron | ||
| Michael Slade (Tawayama) New Member Username: Tawayama Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2003 |
Actually his rims are CTIS compatible. Tony, if you want rims imported I think you'd better work on that one on your own. My client is only interested in making custom alloys, not importing them. RRIII rims that could actually handle an off road tire? That market is even smaller than the DII guys, which is way smaller than the D90/D1/RRC/series guys. I'm going to recommend that he start with the 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern, test the market and see how it goes. From a business standpoint he's already testing a small market. I think before he jumps in and does DII rims he'll see how the first run sells. That is...if these ever happen. As I mentioned this is a preliminary non-scientific survey to see if he wants to do them at all. I think he might, and I'd like to see it happen, so I'm trying to see what people would want. If he sees enough of a demand for DII rims then he might jump in with those, who knows. Keep 'em coming. | ||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 331 Registered: 12-2002 |
5 on 5.5 ? i thought you wanted a wheel compatible with a D1/RRC/D90. (5 on 6.5) just curious. marc |
