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Reid Walkenhorst (Runningmule)
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Post Number: 28
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can anyone provide pics or info on a clean method for routing breather lines into the snorkel? Maybe it doesn't need to be real complicated, but I would like a clean installation, that wouldn't compromise the snorkel being water tight. Thanks

RPW
 

Micky_dee (Micky_dee)
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 11-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

why would you want to put the breather lines into the snorkel? just put them on the out side of it.
 

Chris von C. (Chrisvonc)
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Post Number: 396
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You could just zip-tie the extended hoses to the outside of the snorkel and run the ends all the way to the top of the snorkel. Dont forget to make a downward pointing U-bend in them at the top so water from rain and such wont get down them.
 

Reid Walkenhorst (Runningmule)
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I guess I really havn't considered routing them alond the outside...When I've heard mention of this mod before I just assumed people were keeping the lines concealed under the hood, somehow feeding the lines up insided the snorkel body. Maybe by drilling holes where the plastic piece is mounted to the inner fender this could be achieved...Thanks for the info.

rpw
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

DO NOT run the breather lines INTO the snorkle! remember, that is CLEAN air u want to run to the engine...u do not want to mix the gearbox, transfercase, and diff oils with air for the engine...

Run them along the snorkle like everyone else has done...

Good luck.
 

Jay Reeves (Jay)
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Post Number: 43
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nadim, I don't think there's much of a chance of the diff oils coming that far up the extended breather lines to dump anything into the snorkle. Even if it does, it's not likely (impossible) to make it thru the air filter. And if it does, you've got some weird-ass problem going on with the diffs.

IMO, you'd be safe just running the front diff line to the top of the engine compartment near the firewall - if water get's that high in the engine compartment, that probably means you're not moving (engine compartment has a pretty good air cavity even when wading water up to the top of the hood, if you got balls enough to go that deep for any length of time). The rear diff you can just drill a hole into the cab under the back seat and run the line there, then silicon it. That's what I've done and I've not experienced any problems with oil in the cab, or the diff oil being milky.

I think running it into the snorkle, or even as high as the snorkle is being just a little to annal. That's just my opinion.
 

Bazzle (Bazzle)
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Run them to rear of engine bay behind washer bottle (D1). On the end of lines put a cheap petrol filter (those small plastic ones)with a loop facing down.

Bazzle
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Post Number: 1467
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Reid - it is no problem to run them neatly into your snorkel (any type of snorkel really). Just use a "bulkhead" tube connector. Ideally you'll want to join all four lines at a union into one outgoing breather line and then you have to extend just that one into the snorkel. You'll also want to jump up a size (3/8" is OK).

Anyway - all a bulkead connector does is allow a neat routing through any solid surface.

http://www.nycoil.com/Catelog/NYCOIL31.PDF

Scan down to bulkhead connector when you open this PDF link.

Bill
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Post Number: 1420
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Why don't you tap into the air box instead of the snorkel? Its much more accessible.

Dean
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
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Post Number: 1470
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

As a matter of fact - mine does that - runs through the airbox and then on up the snorkel with the above setup :-)

Bill
 

Tony Cordell (Tony_c)
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

put them inside the snokel top and you'll draw the oils up the breathers!
a bend at the top of the tubes outside the snokel will make it impossible for water to get down them.

put you hand over the snorkel intake the suction will easily draw the oils up the breathers blocking them then your seals are the only way for air to pass.

Anyone putting them inside the snorkel is amaking a risky mistake.
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 581
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


quote:

put them inside the snokel top and you'll draw the oils up the breathers!
a bend at the top of the tubes outside the snokel will make it impossible for water to get down them.

put you hand over the snorkel intake the suction will easily draw the oils up the breathers blocking them then your seals are the only way for air to pass.

Anyone putting them inside the snorkel is amaking a risky mistake.




no way no chance !!! there isnt anyway near enough vacume to pull 80 weight thru the lines. air follows the path of least resistance. and there is NO way that its easier to pull thick oil from a sealed diff then to just draw air from oustside the snorkle.


Deans on the right track

the best way I have found(12 years never a problem with mine) is to run them to the air box using brass fittings that thread thru the side of the air box. I have a $2 fram fuel filter in each breather line to catch water vapor so the hot diffs cant suck it in during the cool down process. If you look close you will see little water droplets on the airbox side of the clear filter but never on the diff side.

the junction at the fuel filter in the breather line is also a very convienent place to pop the line apart and put a small hand vacume pump on, pump it three or four times and if it holds vacume you know the breather and the diff is still all sealed.

This is one of my key tricks to keeping my truck submarine safe.

Now one caveat...ARB's can force fluid up the line if the o-rings go bad...thats one reason I use the filter. if the o-rings fail the filter will keep the air box from getting contaminated.


MM

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