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Robin Cooper (Cooper1)
New Member Username: Cooper1
Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 01:58 pm: |
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Was wandering if anyone has replaced their bushings and if so was there a noticable difference and is it necessary to do so. I can tell mine are getting old and thought it might be a good time to replace them. \// |
   
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Senior Member Username: Gregdavis
Post Number: 1155 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 02:09 pm: |
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Robin, which bushings? I replaced my radius arm to axle bushings this past weekend, and it made a very noticeable difference. Of course, the worn bushings were amplified by the Tru-Trac up front, but yes, I could tell a difference. |
   
Robin Cooper (Cooper1)
New Member Username: Cooper1
Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 02:13 pm: |
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Hmm cool. I was thinking the tie rod bushings and radius arms to axle. Did you use aftermarket or LR genuine and do you think it would make a difference if i dont have Tru-Trac up front? O, and how difficult is it to do? |
   
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
Senior Member Username: Gregdavis
Post Number: 1157 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:15 pm: |
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Robin, I used genuine parts. I have access to a large press. You definitely need access to a large press, as the old bushings were approx. 2.62" in diameter, the new ones were 2.65", and the hole was 2.60"! They shaved themselves as they were pressed in. Without a tru-trac, you'll still notice a difference. It will definitely tighten the front end up. It wasn't hard to do, you just need a lot of "Umph" to get them in. |
   
Leigh Mikolajczyk (Leigh_m)
New Member Username: Leigh_m
Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 03:39 pm: |
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Has any one used the polyurethane bushings? |
   
Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
Senior Member Username: Draaronr
Post Number: 419 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 04:32 pm: |
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There has been alot of discussion on bushing types. I think genuine consensus is too use the rubber oem bushings. As Greg said don't try it without a press, can be done, but a huge pain in the ass. |
   
Robin Cooper (Cooper1)
New Member Username: Cooper1
Post Number: 34 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 06:38 pm: |
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What excatly is a press/large press? I'm not to familiar in the bushing department. Can you buy one or is it something i would only use one time and would be better off borrowing. |
   
Jason McCombs (Jasonmc)
Member Username: Jasonmc
Post Number: 152 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 07:26 pm: |
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a press is a large hydraulic driven machine. Machine shops have them. |
   
Will Bobbitt (Rkores)
Senior Member Username: Rkores
Post Number: 334 Registered: 09-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 09:36 pm: |
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I have done it without a press...It was a very time consuming processes. I replaced all the bushings except for the A-frame in the back. I Usually burned the rubber out, and then used a pipe clamp apparatus and pushed the steel out. I then put in Poly Bushes, so I didn't have to worry about the steel outer shell. I would definately just take it to a shop and let them do it. It will save you a LOT of headaches and time. Will |
   
Mtb (Mtb)
New Member Username: Mtb
Post Number: 39 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 01:37 am: |
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Robin I had a 96 Disco that was stock from the start, then I started to modify it when I put the 2" RT springs on I also put on thier front and rear arms, I put the Polybush Blue instead of OEM rubber. The ride was stiffer than stock but I thought it was a combination of everything I added. Before I traded it in for an 03 Disco I removed the front&rear arm and replaced them with stock arms with rubber bushings. I was amazed by the ride quality with the stock bushings. It was night and day. Knowing what I know now I will never put a poly bushing on again. Just my $.02 |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 234 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 04:39 am: |
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Been putting nothing but Polys on both the �98 and �92. Nothing comes on easier, lasts longer, and goes off easier. |
   
eric johnson (Eric2)
Senior Member Username: Eric2
Post Number: 259 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:20 pm: |
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Blue Polys - 90 RR. No more wandering at freeway speed, nice ride. Better ride than my '99 S-10. Nothing agaist the OEM rubber bushings, just wanted to try new tech. Had a shop do it. Done in a day. They have all the tools and have done it before. |
   
David Zymowski (Davidz)
Member Username: Davidz
Post Number: 76 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 12:29 pm: |
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i ve run the blue poly bushings for a year now and like the ride. the old bushings are a PITA to remove but the Poly bushings go right in. the poly bushings dont have the steel sleeve to compress back in to the hole so they slide right in. i used a heavy duty ball joint press. rented it from Auto Zone like the tool so much i kept it. did the whole job in my driveway. with a lil sweat and swearing. |
   
Bruce Potier (Brucep)
Member Username: Brucep
Post Number: 127 Registered: 06-2003
| Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2004 - 10:18 pm: |
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Then I borrowed that c-clamp from Dave and continued the sweat and swearing, but I used OEM, not Poly. |
   
Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
New Member Username: Pharaohdisco
Post Number: 31 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:14 am: |
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Used the original Polybush Red. Have two D1's. Now one with polyurethane bushings and the second with original Land Rover rubber bushings. Changed all the bushings front and rear on both D1's nearly at the same time. Polybush have a much better ride. The ride is slightly stiffer, but the vehicle is in more control. The blue bushings made by Polybush are even stiffer than the red bushings. |
   
Nadim Samara (Discodino)
Member Username: Discodino
Post Number: 239 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:23 am: |
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Tarek, Beg to differ...the BLUES are supposedly as soft as teh original Rubber OEM ones, but with the quality and lasting of the Polys, and the REDS are the stiffer version for a "tighter" feel.
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Tarek Khalil (Pharaohdisco)
New Member Username: Pharaohdisco
Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:19 am: |
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Nadim, Just checked the Polybush catalogue. You are right. Red is stiffer than blue. |
   
Robin Cooper (Cooper1)
New Member Username: Cooper1
Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:00 pm: |
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Two questions: Where can i order the poly bushings from and if its not too much extra to ask which ones should i replace (97 D1) And two, im prolly going to get someone else to do it and was wandering the best kind of place to take it to. Thanks |
   
Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
Senior Member Username: Uzbad
Post Number: 311 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 06:17 pm: |
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Damn.. i am trying to get old bushings from panhard rod and failing miserably - those things nearly welded themselves to the rod after 10 years. How the heck you guys got them out, specially outer metal sleeve (looks like with inner you can just burn rubber out).. Robin - you can buy poly-kits from Dap-Inc, Discount Rovers, Rover accessories and bunch of other places. Links are in vendors section of DiscoWeb.
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Brian Dickens (Bri)
Senior Member Username: Bri
Post Number: 1008 Registered: 08-2002
| Posted on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:34 pm: |
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Sergei, Take them to NAPA or somewhere that has a big press. Kind of a pain, but worth the time. I have a guy that has a monster arbour press. Pops themout like magic. Is there any safe way to take off both radius arms and/or both trailing links at one time? |
   
Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
Senior Member Username: Uzbad
Post Number: 312 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:25 am: |
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Brian - you can take both radius arms out, if you put truck on stands, but its easier to do it one by one, if you still have old (not relocated) steering damper (rear tie rod will prevent arm from dropping down and removal unless you disconnect ends). Wouldnt be safe to drive like that of course But it can sit perfectly well on two front jack stands. Putting back takes a bit of swearing, but its doable even with one pair of hands I didnt replace bushings on trailing links yet, but that shouldnt be any different. Basically so far as truck isnt disturbed much it should be able to sit on springs alone. I tried to ask local NAPA store and they sort of giggled mindlessly at me. I guess i just will have to grab damn thing and beat them into submission |