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     David Hunter (Angrydave) New Member Username: Angrydave Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2003 |
Do you guys put your kids in the jump seats? Concenrns about wrecks? Just looking for input... | ||
| Jeff Mclaird (Granitedisco) Member Username: Granitedisco Post Number: 221 Registered: 08-2003 |
I used to until we had some clown tailgating us one day and nearly run us off the road. Since then my daughter won't go in the jump seats. My son (17) rides in there no problems of course. I think it depends largely on what area you live in and what the roads are like. I live pretty close to Boston. JMHO but I probably wouldn't put toddlers in the jump seats. D2 or D1 ? D2 probably safer since they face forward. HTH Jeff | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 562 Registered: 04-2003 |
Both my boys ride in the jump seats...age 5 and 7, (next month 6 and 8). I worry less about them riding back there then I do when I see people riding in the back of a pickup truck on the interstate... As far as concerns about wrecks, they are called accidents for a reason. It just happens and I don't think it would make a difference if they were it the back or the jump seats if you get hit hard enough it the wrong spot it is still going to hurt. | ||
| David Hunter (Angrydave) New Member Username: Angrydave Post Number: 11 Registered: 08-2003 |
Yeah I have D2, I wouldnt put em in D1 on the road. Were about to have the third kid, and I just cant seea reasonable way to keep the Disco as my wifes vehicle. She does most of the kid hauling. At this point its looking like a suburban will join the stable and the Disco will be my primary ride for a while. I like it waaaay too much to get rid of it. | ||
| Garth Petch (Garth) New Member Username: Garth Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2003 |
DII, definately. The jump seats lock down, have headrests and lapsash seat belts. They're probably as safe as the back seats except in a really bad rear end shunt...ie Mack truck. D1 jump seats are a fatality waiting to happen. No lock down, passenger's head against a sheet of glass, lap seat belts and in any frontal impact the only thing to stop forward movement is the hard back of the rear seat. Garth | ||
| Joey (Joey4420) Senior Member Username: Joey4420 Post Number: 563 Registered: 04-2003 |
Gee you make the DI jump seat sound almost as bad as riding in a school bus.....no seatbelts, metal all around and nothing but the hard front of the seat in front of our kids to stop them in an accident. | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 235 Registered: 02-2003 |
When us guys were brought up we used to commute in MUCH more hostile environments that the jump seats of a D1! Eventhough, I agree that a solid car seat is best. Even a roll cage...good excuse to dish out 1.5K for a Safety Devices one  | ||
| Garth Petch (Garth) New Member Username: Garth Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2003 |
Joey I wrote off a D1 in a collision with a tree which took off the rear driver's side corner of the car. My two kids and another were in the car at the time, and my youngest had wanted to sit in the jump seat, but I wouldn't let her. If she had have been sitting there the rear of her head would have been removed. As it was, all three kids only received seat belt bruises. My kids are the most valuable items I have. The buses for the school they attend are fitted with seat belts! Garth PS. One of the people who taught me to drive was a highway pursuit cop...he said that there is no such things as car accidents, there's just errors in judgement by one person, and you are no better driver than the worst person in your near vicinity | ||
| Sean McAfee (Breeze61) New Member Username: Breeze61 Post Number: 6 Registered: 01-2004 |
"Gee you make the DI jump seat sound almost as bad as riding in a school bus..." Even worse. School buses suck, no doubt, but they weigh many tons so it takes something major to cause the sort of force to do fatal damage. Can happen, of course, but if a Taurus hits a bus atlegal speeds the bus is barely going to move. My niece was killed in an accident one year ago this month. Her car was hit on the side and her neck snapped with the sideways shear. Very little other damage to her body at all. I don't know if this is true, but the coroner told me that sideways movement is almost always more damaging to the head/neck than fore or back. Yeah, when I was a kid I used to ride STANDING UP on the back seat of a station wagon, but I would never let my kids ride on a sideways seat with no shoulder belt. I have a 1967 Plymouth and installed 2001 bucket seats just to have shoulder belts and headrests. Now I refuse to let anyone ride in the back seat, EVER, where there are no shoulder belts or headrests. Necks (especially little ones) are way too weak. | ||
| Chris Robyn (Noirovr) New Member Username: Noirovr Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2003 |
We use the jump seats very sporadically. It's nice to have them sometimes--which is why I like the versatility of the Disco to begin with. When we're in a park or at a highway rest stop we can fold the seats down for the kids as kind of an instant picnic space of sorts. I never put my kids back there while driving, however. Both my wife and my niece (age 11) have sat in the D1 jump seats, but only while driving around city streets. I have even sat back there myself (I'm 6'3"), which I could not have done in a DII seat since they sprout almost right from the floor. | ||
| Mark Albrecht (Markalbrecht) Member Username: Markalbrecht Post Number: 127 Registered: 11-2002 |
Although the middle row of seats is the safest in an accident, the third row of seats in a DII can't be any worse that the third row of seats in a mini-van. BTW neither the NHTSA nor the Insuance Institute have any statistics on or safety ratings for third row seats as they claim there aren't enough injury accidents involving the third row of seats (I only know this because my wife was happy to let our son ride in the way back of her sister's mini-van but the DII jump seats were way too dangerous; she's since seen the light). | ||
| Rick Clarke (Tugcap) Member Username: Tugcap Post Number: 42 Registered: 02-2002 |
There is such a thing as accidents. The average driver has only good control and judgement over his own vehicle. The uncontrollable dynamics are much bigger than any one driver, or his superior training. You can die at the wheel, while executing precise defensive driving. Fact is we are mortal and powerless over what we cant control. That being said, If safety is number one than there is crash test statistics that show far better/collision safe cars to drive than a disco, in any seat. My kids have always fought over the 'way back' of my D1. I regularly transport 6 belted kids. I have never liked the jumps, but they are certainly safer than the series 3 bench seats they were weaned on. (had 7 belts in that 88) I was raised in the era when seat belts were aboard, but stuffed down in the seat crack. Seems crazy in todays context. I look around and see a distressingly aggressive/fast/wreckless driving style is norm rather than the exception nowadays. I think thats a much bigger factor than the type of vehicle you are in. Very sorry for the loss of loved ones mentioned above. Life is too short. Live for today. Absolutely no disrespect intended. | ||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2002 |
i frequent a local wrecking yard on a regular basis, always looking for bits and goodies. on that goodie list was a set of jump seats, as my disco does not have them and i have a two year old that would love them. two weeks ago, my dad and i were picking up a set of radius arms when we noticed a new arrival in the yard. 98 disco roll over. after seeing how mangled the rear jump seat portion of the disco was in comparison to the rest of the truck, i decided that my kids would not be riding in the back. now i understand that this was the first "type" of wreck that i have seen on a discovery, most times they roll, and the damage is focused around the A and B pillars leaving the drivers and center sections mostly intact. but seeing the rear pillar wrapped around that passengers side jump seat rocked me to the core. but, these are your kids and it's your car, so in the end it's really up to you. but after that day, my kids will not be allowed to ride in a jump seat. so that if for what it's worth, call me an over protective parent, but that's just how i came away from it, and this is coming from a guy that runs 4plus trails with my kid in a car seat.? marc | ||
| Bill Nastos (Gk42) New Member Username: Gk42 Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2003 |
I only use them if I have to, once and a while and for short runs only. I don't think I would want my kids back there on a long trip. I will probibly take them out some time and use the space for storage. Bill |
