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LR Max
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 06:38 pm: | 
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Hi all,
Today I was in a difficult situation in which a ground anchor would have helped. Can anybody recemmend a good ground anchor? I like the pull pal, but I don't know it works on hard packed dirt. Does anybody have any experience with home made anchor? Thanks.
Max T. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 06:50 pm: |
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A Pull pal will work fine on hard packed dirt, we use my friend's in it all the time and it has yet to fail. You need to dig a little hole with a shovel first to get it started sometimes though. |
Neal Glessner (Nealg)
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 07:02 pm: |
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Max, Try this
http://www.warn.com/warn.nsf/pages/Guides.SafeWinching.Page8.html |
Moe (Moe)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 12:29 pm: |
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I would like to have the Pullpal |
LR Max
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 08:44 pm: |
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Neal,
I saw that in my manual, since I have a warn 12000. But how do I make that? How big are the stakes? Where do I get the rope to connect the stakes? How long and how big do the stakes need to be? Thanks.
LR Max |
Neal Glessner (Nealg)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 09:09 pm: |
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I'm not sure. I only saw it a few days ago. The log or spare tire trick looks easier. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 09:54 pm: |
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Me and some friends actually had to try the spare tire trick once, after six hours someone came along to pull us out. When I get a winch for my disco you can bet a pull pal will be purchased at the same time. |
Kyle
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 10:52 pm: |
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LR MAx , I can understand the cash issue realted to the Pull Pal , BUT , you are playing with fire being a little unfamilliar with the whole recovery thing and starting off like that. The pull pal is a much more forgiving piece of equipment and alot easier to use then stakes. Now , dont get me wrong , the stake thing works. You can actually buy you 3 three foot Crow bars and use them with a chain connecting them. The bars and related items do talke up alot of space and as I said it isnt the easiest thing to pull off. Its also not very versatile. Someone with some experience behind them can work wonders with a few crow bars and some chain but I guarantee you they are envisioning using a pull pal and how much easier it is to use while they are pounding those stakes in the ground.. 
Kyle |
LR Max
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 08:36 pm: |
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Kyle,
I I am really starting to think about the Pull pal, but what I want to know is how well it works on hard dirt. Where I was this weekend (In the middle of NC), the ground was hard packed. The trail led out into a powerline right of way. There was a very steep hill that I could get down, but I didn't know if I could get up. I looked for a ground anchor for about 45 minutes but couldn't find one. The ground was extremely hard packed, and I don't know if the pull pal would work here. Does anyone have any experience with this anchor? Thanks.
Max T. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 08:53 pm: |
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Read the first reply to this thread. When I go out with my jeep and bronco buddies they use one on a certain hill all the time (then have to turn around and winch me up since I havnt gotten around to buying a winch yet) anyway the hill is like what you are explaining very hard packed dirt and no trees big enough to be an anchor, the pull pal digs right in and doesn't budge, the hardest part is getting it out afterwards. |
Kyle
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 09:01 pm: |
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As carter said , just dig a little starter hole to get the nose in and it will do its thing. The only problem I had getting it to dig in was in Colorado and the ground was frozen hard as a brick...
Kyle |
BW
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 10:40 pm: |
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Every situation is different and every situation warrants a different type of recovery tool.
Although I've never used a Pull Pal, I can testify that a good Highlift jack can be used in a multitude of ways that will eliminate the need for a winch/pull-pal.
In my opinion, a stable winch and a well maintained Hi-Lift Jack w/Jack Mate is sufficient.
In other words, if you havn't invested in a Hi-Lift Jack yet, you might want to consider purchasing one before you buy a Pull-Pal.
BW |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 11:19 pm: |
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Excuse my ignorance BW but how do you use your high-lift w/jackmate to eliminate the need for a pull-pal or other anchoring device. Im not doubting you im just curious. |
LR Max
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 04:29 am: |
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Thanks everyone. I think I will try to get enough money and get a pull pal. As for a Hi-lift, I do have one, a 60" and all of the attachments so I can use it on my vehicle. Thanks for your concern though...
BW, how can you use a Hi-lift w/jackmate be used as a ground anchor? I'm curious.
Max T. |
Kent Westbrook
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 10:55 pm: |
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OK, here's a stupid question about the Pull-Pal. Just got one a couple of weeks ago as a gift, but my wife has misplaced the instructions (if it had any). Had it out yesterday just to see how it's put together and how it's supposed to work. Here's my question: Is the "plow blade" supposed to be set into the ground at an angle (angled away from the vehicle)? Doesn't seem like it'd work otherwise but I just want to be sure in case I ever need to use it.
Kent |
Kyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 09:39 am: |
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Kent , if you have the blade on facing the right direction and the ring in the main beam are facing the truck , then it should already be angled as needed..
Kyle |
chrisvonc
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:10 pm: |
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Kent, dont listen to Kyle. The damn thing is broken. You better send it to my house.
Chris von C |
Kent Westbrook
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:55 pm: |
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OK Kyle, thanks for the info; means I had it right. Sorry Chris!
Kent |
BW
| | Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 01:36 am: |
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Sorry for the confusion on the jack.
I did not intend to imply the Hi-Lift to be used as an anchor point. I meant to imply the Hi-Lift to be used as a jack in order to regain traction.
I only mentioned this because some guys, after they get a winch, toss there jacks or never buy one.
MAYbe Max's problem could have been solved with a Hi-Lift.
(I'll probably get stuck and need a pull pal this weekend just for this post)
BW |
Ron
| | Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 02:03 am: |
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The key with re-bar (sp?) is to have someone stand on it. My "back up" plan has always been to to take my dan bar and put it in the ground with a bit standing up and hook the strap around that. Now with about 300ft of cable and wheeling around here I kinda doubt it will ever be needed as the damn trees are everywhere.
Pull pals are cool (great gift Kent ) but kinda big to store and whatnot.
Ron |
LR Max
| | Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 06:32 pm: |
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BW,
Trust me, a Hi-Lift couldn't have helped me. The situation was a very steep, long hill and with no ground points nearby. But thanks for your concern.
Max T. |
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