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Andrew Homan (Andy)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok I bought a 97 it left me stranded so I got money back from the seller (great guy) Now I'm back in the market and am looking at both 98s and 96s but I am open to any year as long as it's a good deal and taken care of. Plan on mods such as 2" lift tires winch etc. I will use the rig for daily driver and toy. I have a mechanical background (former Prosche/BMW factory mech) and will do most if not all the work needed.

Any thoughts suggestions?
 

Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go for the 99's!

It's the year they fixed quite a few things from earlier models.
 

Gordon Turner (Gordo)
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I personally like the early ones. 94-95 with the 3.9 motor. But that is because I have an 89 RR with nearly 250k on it. The 3.9 is tried and true. (nothing against the 4.0 as it is basically the same). I bought a 94 with records and it has been a great truck. Gordo
 

Brett A. Naquin (Bnaquin)
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2004 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You know, I’ve seen a lot of opinions on this board about what are the best years. I was told by several people that the later model Disco I’s were the best choice yet I’ve not had near the trouble with my 1995 D1 that they’ve had with theirs. I think it really comes down to how well the vehicle was maintained AND a little luck of the draw.
I really like the 3.9 engines and find them very easy to maintain so I’d recommend my 1995 model.
Good hunting,

Brett
 

Andrew Homan (Andy)
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can you get a 99 d1? or are they talking about a d2? also I like the idea of a 94/95 because they are less money and that leaves me a bigger budget for add ons.
 

Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge)
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you can get a 99 d1, damn nice ones as well. The LSE from that year is the best looking d1 of the lot. If i didn't limit myself to an xd i would've gone for a 99 D1.

Cheers

Jack
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 634
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i like the 97s. :-)


Ho Chung
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
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Post Number: 580
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i'm with Ho.

97s are where it's at.
 

john heath (Whatmud)
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Post Number: 10
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

97 is the golden year i am with ho and jack mine has 108000 and sounds like new but i do take care of the little things before they get big
 

Jess Loban (Corovin1)
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 04:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I love my '95, it is tried and true, I am guilty of abusing it, and she has come through. The only time I start having problems is when I start causing them!!! like lifts and rotors and stuff.... that has no bearing on the truck, its a champ!!!
-Jess '95 all the way
 

Jay Reeves (Jay)
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

97 with 113K on it and no problems...where's some wood?

Just got that little bird chirp under the bonnet when cold - either the tensioner pully or water pump.
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 790
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

94-5 are hands down the best years available to us. From 95 on they just got too reliant on electronics..
"Blow me"
 

thom mathie (Muskyman)
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Post Number: 612
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree 100% my 94 has 110k now and runs like new, with a little retarding of the spark it runs on 87 octane all the time and never a ping.

simple wins

94-95:-)
 

Phil (Discoanywhere)
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Post Number: 127
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

you guys all have new trucks!! lol I'm with the 95's mines got over 250,000 never a problem! And I beat it hard ..

Heres a few things to look for on the D1's
Starting at the front check the headlights, make sure the tabs taht hold them in are not broken and the lights are properly secure, Signal lights check for water, radiator and vacumm hoses check for cracks, cdl (make sure you can get it on and the light on the dash comes on), Cruise Control (ussually a vacumm line) Digital Clock, Signs of water leaks in sunroofs and windsheild, Dash curling, drivers seat seams, rust in door jam of rear side doors, lift carpet in back and check floor for rust near rear door, check around rear door for rust, steering damper might be bashed in, hydralics in rear step, oil leaks ...

Theres lots I'm missing but these hot spots seem to come up from time to time on D1's I see.. The newer ones seem to have more electrical and valve problems... but it really depends on the maintenance and if your Landy likes you!
 

Robin Cooper (Cooper1)
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Post Number: 46
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

97' SE no question. Don't fall for the 3.9L trick, you'll be sowwy:-)
 

Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
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Post Number: 444
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Love my 97
 

Leigh Mikolajczyk (Leigh_m)
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

1994 125k Still a great truck
 

Nadim Samara (Discodino)
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Post Number: 278
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i went for 92 and 98...
I think it depends on what you want...high end luxury, then go 98-99, if you want to build a trail rig, then go for early ones.
 

eric johnson (Eric2)
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Post Number: 276
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

From Robison Service websire - www.robisonservice.com

Build quality of the 1996-7 Discoveries is the lowest of any modern Land Rover product. Avoid these years if possible.

But, obviously, many people will have relatively trouble-free rigs. Just that the odds are not too good.


1996 to 1998 4.0 engines are terrible oil leakers. These are the common leaks: cylinder head gaskets, intake gaskets, front seals, oil cooler lines, oil pans, rear main seals and valve cover gaskets.

Pre 1998 4.0 engines are prone to develop carbon buildup on the exhaust valve stems. Symptoms are intermittent missing or staggering of the engine, usually on long drives and at high speed.

So, looks like '94's, '95's, and '99's are the best bet.
With the '94's and 95's cheaper price, you could swap in a 4.6 (or Chevy) and prolly come out ahead over buying a later model. For some folks, the early models just lacked some H.P.
 

sam (Dent)
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Post Number: 11
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

96 ... last year they made a stick :-) love my manual :-)
 

gil stevens (Gil)
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Post Number: 411
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"96 ... last year they made a stick love my manual "

then why is my 97 a stick?? :-)

re: that robison service site do you believe everything you read on the internet?? not only has my 97 never had any major issue, it has never thrown a code in my 60,000 miles of ownership, nor does it leak a single drop, its actually drier than a new 04. I know a number of 97s that have been trouble free, 96s cant say the same..
 

Sean Rhodes (Seanrh)
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Post Number: 2
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Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've had my '94 for a year and no problems. It was a one owner car before I got it and was very well taken care of. 170,000 miles and going strong.
 

sam (Dent)
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

doh.. guess i was mistaken with 96 being last year they made stick.. sorry...
sam
 

Jack Quinlan (Jsq)
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Post Number: 582
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

distributor shmibutor.
 

eric johnson (Eric2)
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Post Number: 281
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Gil,

I posted
But, obviously, many people will have relatively trouble-free rigs. Just that the odds are not too good.
Maybe 96 and 97's are 15% more trouble prone than others.
I should have said in my original post that the odds are not as good in those years. You got a good one and I'm glad for it.

As to RobisonService.com and what he posts.
He or his shop works on these vehicles on a daily basis, and sees all the years of the Disco. I would put more credibility in what he posts, in regards to vehicle reliability, than anyone else I've seen on the web. If there is a reason to doubt his credibility, I don't know of it.
I don't think he posts enough, but he has a business to run.
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Username: Kyle

Post Number: 802
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

You dont need to do anything more then read this board for a few years and you will see exactly what the good years are...
"Blow me"
 

Aaron Richardet (Draaronr)
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Username: Draaronr

Post Number: 447
Registered: 09-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn Kyle that sounds like homework for the new guys.
 

J E Robison Service Co (Robisonservice)
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Post Number: 154
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would suggest the 99s are the most evolved and possibly the most trouble free.
 

Andrew Homan (Andy)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well I just got back with a 95 I bought from a 50 year old ladie. recent service new brakes, alt, tires (to small though),and exhaust system. body is straight couldn't find any door dings interiors good except for split drivers seat. 102k on got it for under 6k. she got rid of it because she bought a 03 DII and wanted to sell it fast.
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think the earlier years (94 and 95) are the best. However it is hard to find one of those that have few miles and are well maintained. I think if you find a well maintained car no matter what year you have it will be good. What am I talking about. You are a Porche mechanic, you know what to look for.
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Username: Thediscoho

Post Number: 653
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah steve, dump that old bitch!


Ho Chung
 

Butch Santiago (Butchs)
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 95 with 3.9 engine and running excellent. I am planning to get a 4.6 and wondering the pros and cons? My Beluga Black Disco is a keeper. Proud to own it despite leaks and mechanical problems. Thanks Disco Web for tech tips. 4.6 . . .
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, I don't want to call it "dumping". It was a great truck. I just like fixing them up so much, I thought I would do it again. This time with a white one. Hopefully with less pin striping.
 

John S. Bleazard (Injun)
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Post Number: 26
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I dont see many votes for the 98 models. What is the difference between the 98 and 99 D1s
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 656
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

oops, steve, i didnt' mean that kind of "dumping"
:-)


Ho Chung
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, I'm sure it will be in good hands.
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 803
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Steve , Ho has some pain over a certain 95 that went East.... :-)
"Blow me"
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

let me guess, his?
 

Kyle Van Tassel (Kyle)
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Post Number: 804
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

:-) He knows deep down that Yellow 97 doesnt have the same "Value"
"Blow me"
 

Steve Rupp (Steve_rupp)
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, aren't you going to chime in on this?
 

Ho Chung (Thediscoho)
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Post Number: 659
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post




Ho Chung
 

David Huddleson (Dhuddleson)
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 09-2003
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Regarding John's (Injun) comment about 98's and 99's, really we should consider the 99 model D1's as "leftover" 98's. When there were production line delays on the launch for North American DII Discovery's, the Disco I's were continued/carried over into early 1999. So really, I would think that comments on the quality of the late Disco I's would extend back into the 1998 model year also... The 98's are supposed to have the "carbon-cutting" exhaust valves, that are supposed to help prevent/reduce the sticking valve problem inherent in 96-98 NAS Disco V8's, so this is one area these may be considered as "better". As too oil leaking... well I think it's hit-n-miss throughout the years!!!

 

Tony Zuniga (Tony23007)
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Post Number: 296
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

95-D1 with lots of little problems but no big issues!!! 125K and still running good. I think with all D1 models you will have problems, problems that you can read about on this board!! But mainly look for a car with good previous owner, that way you'll know if it was taken care off.
 

Kevin Hans (Kmhans)
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Post Number: 20
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Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree with tony. I have a 96 5spd, maybe one of the worst years to get one, not to mention I picked it up on ebay, but it has been well maintained and still has all the original driveline parts including the clutch! At 115K the engine makes some tapping noises and the oil pressure takes a few seconds to build, but nothing that most of the other owners on here aren't experiencing. I will note though that I have a friend with a 98 (really loud valvetrain) and a friend with a 99 (missing roof support members so sounds like a big tin can when you close the doors and missing supports in the hood, you can watch it wobble in the wind).....just some observations I've had
Thanks
 

John S. Bleazard (Injun)
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Post Number: 27
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks David, I was under the impression that there was essentially no difference between the 98s and 99s, other than maybe the wheels. I just bought my 98 about 3 weeks ago and like it. It had meticulous records with LR and Im the first one to change the oil other than LR. Ive been real impressed with it thusfar and havent had it offroad yet. That should come real soon. I researched this board for about a year and found that if you want a reliable rover, the D2s are the better choice. The D1s seemed to be the favorite for the offroader and also seemed to be easier to fix. My conclusions were to find a 98 or 99 D1. I almost bought a 97 SD w/100K+ mi, but decided to hold off since it had the ABS light. My best advice is to hold out for the right one. Wether a 96 or a 2001
 

peter ziesmann (Peterz)
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just got the "bird chirp" 97- 78k-
what's the cause or fix?
thanks
 

Chris Nuzum (Cnuzum)
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 97 with just over 110,000 miles. I've put 50,000 of those on in the past 3 1/4 years. No problems other than a break job right when I got it, and the Tensioner pulley froze up on my while driving home.. oh and that damn cargo door which is getting fixed this week. I love my car and wouldnt get rid of it for anything, (well, maybe a 110). It does leak but whats the saying for british cars, "It it's not leaking, it's empty!"
 

Phil (Discoanywhere)
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Post Number: 150
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well that settles it then we all seem to agree ... the 95's are the best!!
 

Scott Hayes (Scott_h)
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Post Number: 84
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Had my 95 for 6 years. I love it. My wife keeps telling me to sell it an get a new one, but there is no way. It has 117k on it, and has left me stranded once, when the expansion tank blew up. Other then that its been reletivly trouble free. Of course the rear door won't open. Is it suppose to? :-)

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