| Author | Message | ||
     ken nishikawa (Scubaman99) Member Username: Scubaman99 Post Number: 116 Registered: 06-2002 |
Question.... what grips better on WET streets... i know my GY MT/R's are superior off road, but what about on road... between the stock michelins XPC's and goodyear MT/R's which one will grip better. the weather up here in norther california is supposed to be really wet the next few days. should i put on my MT/R's for better road handling or leave my stock Michelins on?? | ||
| Wicks (Wicks) Member Username: Wicks Post Number: 143 Registered: 03-2003 |
Is this a quiz or something? Can't be that you're changing your tires each time it rains. The XPCs. | ||
| ken nishikawa (Scubaman99) Member Username: Scubaman99 Post Number: 117 Registered: 06-2002 |
not a quiz... more of a poll... i normally run XPC's on my rig around town/drive to work/go to the store/etc... i have a 2nd set of MT/R's on steel wheels that i run when i go wheeling. yes... before i go wheeling i take 30min to change my tires, then when im done i switch them back. not a big deal, only takes a few minutes... and it makes a big difference when i wheel... plus i dont have to worry about throwing a weight or mud messing up my wheel balance post wheeling trips the weather up here in the bay area has been wet for CA... (past three days have brought a lot of rain) and the next 4+ days are forcasted to rain as well... so, im wondering if i should change my tires for the next week or so ( i have to admit i like the look of the MT/R's when they are on my rig) but i only want to do it if the MT/Rs will grip better in the wet then my XPC... | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 283 Registered: 10-2003 |
Man put that joint down! That shit is messing up your brain. There are no opinions on this, only the simple fact that a siped road tire does better on a wet road than a non siped mud tire. Did you think about this before you asked? You West Coast people get too much sun. Hahah.... Matt | ||
| Nadim Samara (Discodino) Senior Member Username: Discodino Post Number: 276 Registered: 02-2003 |
Thornbirds | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2003 |
My personal experience with the Mich XPC, I've hydroplaned and almost lost control at as little as 50MPH with them. For some reason, I've received better wet road performance out of my Dunlop MudRovers. My stopping distance is better with the Dunlops as well in the wet. Don't know about the GY's. But I'm afraid to drive too fast with the Michelins. | ||
| gordon german (Gordon) New Member Username: Gordon Post Number: 1 Registered: 02-2004 |
As Matt says, any siped tyre (in general) will grip better on a hard wet surface than a non-siped tyre. Most MT's are non-siped, hence rather poor on wet roads - my BFG MT's are a good example :-( | ||
| Tony Zuniga (Tony23007) Senior Member Username: Tony23007 Post Number: 302 Registered: 05-2003 |
It also all depends on the wear of your tires, if your Michellins are still in good condition than they should work better on wet road surfaces, if they have a lot of miles on them already well like any old tire they will begin to loose grip regarless of the road surface. In my opinion I would keep doing what your doing, use your MT for offroading, and your Michellins for regular road use, that way they will both last you longer. | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 190 Registered: 02-2003 |
The Michelins were new. In fact my first hydroplane occurred just a month or two after getting the Disco new. Went into a neutral skid in a curve across three lanes before they gripped. Scared the hell out of me because out of all the vehicles I've driven and almost half million miles, I never once experienced hydroplaned before. I think the XPC just has a bad tread design. It wasn't just once, but several times with the XPCs that I hydroplaned. Funny thing is, I gave Michelin the benefit of the doubt and am running my second set of XPCs and I still don't trust them. | ||
| Luis Constantin (Luisc) Member Username: Luisc Post Number: 191 Registered: 02-2003 |
By the way. I'm not condoning the use of mud tires as a primary all weather tire. And I can't vouch for GY MT/R. I don't know why my MudRovers have better traction on wet pavement than the XPCs. | ||
| Donald (Dsmcf) Member Username: Dsmcf Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2003 |
OK, so getting past the "Duh!" factor here... It goes without saying that my winter tires (Blizzak) are better than my summer tires (BFG AT KO) by a very very long chalk when it comes to wet roads. But seeing as the question has been posed, I am curious to know people's thoughts on how the BFG AT and MT compare... neither of them are particularly friendly to wet roads, but how much worse is the MT? I am thinking of switching to it... | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 633 Registered: 11-2002 |
MT is about half as good on wet roads as AT because it has half as many edges or sipes. the AT will also work better on packed snow covered roads for the same reason I run a siped MT all the time and it has plenty of grip on wet and icy roads . The XPC's get rock hard as they get old(as do the BFG AT's) . my original spare is brand new never touched the street yet it is sooooooo rock hard it would suck if you used it. MM | ||
| Pugsly (Pugsly) Senior Member Username: Pugsly Post Number: 318 Registered: 11-2002 |
Siped tires are best for rain / snow / ice - though they are fragile and tend to fall apart off road. You can sipe mud-terrains (or other tires), but it weakens the lugs and can cause parts of the lugs to break off. The stock tires that my RR came with are fantastic for poor condition on-road travel. | ||
| Matt Anderson (Disco01) Senior Member Username: Disco01 Post Number: 328 Registered: 10-2003 |
Siped mudders---how about the pro comps? | ||
| Justin V. Nevitt (What_rd) New Member Username: What_rd Post Number: 10 Registered: 02-2004 |
You misspelled it. It's P-r-o C-r-a-p. |
