| Author | Message | ||
     Stuart H (Disco_stu) New Member Username: Disco_stu Post Number: 31 Registered: 06-2003 |
http://www.safarigard.com/catalog/sg_droopkit_2410486.htm Does anyone here have any experience with this kit? I have searched through the archives but couldn't find anything. I'm about to order my OME setup, and I saw this kit, which looked pretty trick, and was thinking that I could install it at the same time. SG mentions that they have a 2 1/2" version that is used with the OME setup (the link above is to the 4" version) for the rear. Has anybody installed it on their rig that can give me some feedback? Can anyone think of any reason to NOT put it on? Also could it be used on both front and rear axles? Other than the OME lift and some extended brake lines, everything else under there(suspension and running gear) is stock. Thanks -Stuart | ||
| Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Member Username: Ccdm3 Post Number: 220 Registered: 07-2002 |
A couple of the guys in our local club have it. It works like cones would, without some of the noise. From what I have seen it works well. It will allow you to get more drop travel without using soft springs. It will not work on the front unless you relocate your shocks outside of the springs, and still would probably not be usefull given the limited amount of travel allowed by the radius arms, steering linkage, etc... | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 159 Registered: 07-2002 |
Stuart, It's a pretty good system. Great way to get better flex without the drawbacks of a cone set up (no sudden unloading of the springs, less extra tippyness etc). A couple of suggestions for you: 1. Order early... it is SG after all. 2. They come with 400lb springs, see if you can swap them out for 300 lb springs. You won't get as much flex with the 400 lb/in set up. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Timothy A. Green (Tree_trimmer) New Member Username: Tree_trimmer Post Number: 14 Registered: 02-2004 |
I drool every time I look at the SG cataloge and I'm sure their stuff is top notch. However, I saw an interesting kit in the Rovers North paper today which was listed as an axle articulation kit, that could be bolted up without welding, etc. It was $1099.00 and appeared to be the cone type Nathan mentioned. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 907 Registered: 02-2002 |
we used a SG 3" drop kit awhile back when changing the RR to coils. here is a pic.  for more info go http://www.eastcoastrover.com/AirSuspension.html Jaime | ||
| Adrian Strata (Adrians) Member Username: Adrians Post Number: 54 Registered: 02-2003 |
Timothy, Looks just like Scorpion Racing's kit. | ||
| Timothy A. Green (Tree_trimmer) New Member Username: Tree_trimmer Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2004 |
I checked out scorpion racing's website sometime back and had forgotten about them till you mentioned them. I need to check them out again. | ||
| Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Member Username: Ccdm3 Post Number: 222 Registered: 07-2002 |
There is a difference between the drop kit and droop kit. The droop kit allows the spring to travel further than it would normally stretch by using another spring inside. The drop kit simply relocates the lower shock mount up 3 inches to give the shock a lower drop. | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 683 Registered: 11-2002 |
I could be wrong, but I believe you would need longer travel shocks, as that is what will be the limit to how far you will articulate. There is a great article in the tech section of the EE website about adding extensions to your shocks. I am planning on doing this as soon as it warms up a little. http://www.expeditionexchange.com/drop/ | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 325 Registered: 02-2002 |
Greg, another way to get more drop out of your shocks is to install lowered rear shock mounts. Ho has a write up on EE. | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 160 Registered: 07-2002 |
Something to think about is that if you install a drop kit like the SG one or the one written up on the EE site is that you don't gain any overall articulation. You gain 2" of down travel at the expense of 2" of up travel. In the end you don't really gain anything other than sex appeal. And yes Greg is correct, for a stock set up or an OME setup, the shock is the limiting factor for articulation in the rear. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 326 Registered: 02-2002 |
Nathan, it depends on the amount of lift. Suppose you have a 3" lift. The lowered rear mounts will allow you use OME shocks designed for a 2" lift and provide good down and up travel on a 3" lift. | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 668 Registered: 02-2002 |
 which vehicle has what? can you guess? Ho Chung | ||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 364 Registered: 12-2002 |
nicely put, Ho. | ||
| Jaime (Blueboy) Senior Member Username: Blueboy Post Number: 910 Registered: 02-2002 |
using the ole pic worth a 1000 words concept Ho. that is the same result we had on my RR. Jaime | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 671 Registered: 02-2002 |
yep, tire still up in the air. Ho Chung | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 151 Registered: 06-2003 |
the one on the right is different, its yellow!!!! ....oh sorry I thought this was a spot the difference game... First truck...OME springs & shocks? other two same size lift softer springs and longer shocks? So whats the set ups on those trucks?? | ||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 673 Registered: 02-2002 |
phil, they all have the "tire up in the air" setup. Ho Chung | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 685 Registered: 11-2002 |
Can I put an 03 D2 "Hanging Wheel" on a 97 D1? | ||
| Greg French (Gregfrench) Senior Member Username: Gregfrench Post Number: 693 Registered: 11-2002 |
MIke- Do you have a link to that? I couldn't find it. | ||
| Mike Rupp (Mike_rupp) Senior Member Username: Mike_rupp Post Number: 327 Registered: 02-2002 |
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hoshos/ | ||
| Nathan Hindman (Nathanh) Member Username: Nathanh Post Number: 161 Registered: 07-2002 |
Mike, You're right about the extra height springs. I was assuming we were talking about a standard OME kit. The OME shocks are designed to essentially compress completely when the spring is fully compressed, and reach full extension just as the spring is at full extension. If you were to put 2" spring spacers in the rear, you would lose that 2" of articulation in the form of up travel which you could regain in the form of down travel by moving the shock mounts, as well as running the risk of damaging your shocks by having them function as "bump stops". However, as I said before, putting the spring extensions on a standard OME set up, you gain no overall wheel travel. You gain down travel at the expense of losing up travel. And the general consensus is that up travel is key to vehicle stability. Thanks, Nathan Hindman http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com | ||
| Big Ed (Sandman) Member Username: Sandman Post Number: 47 Registered: 02-2004 |
I have to agree with Ho's point...the bigger and better the suspension...the farther out you can hang your wheels! SandMan | ||
| Adrian Strata (Adrians) Member Username: Adrians Post Number: 57 Registered: 02-2003 |
I think that cones or SG would help vehicles that use HD springs because they don't compress as much as MD springs do so you can use the extra drop. I know my (91RRC)3" +RTE hd springs don't compress all the way even when loaded up with gear. |
