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Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 79 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 02:19 pm: |
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Factory Jack is shot! Was out of fluid, refilled & it puked all over the garage floor. Is it worth buying a new one, or are they all garbage? |
   
tomish lan para hindoola (Mca)
New Member Username: Mca
Post Number: 12 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 03:33 pm: |
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oh yes. get new one. always carry a jack with you at all times. you never know when you might need it! |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 80 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:00 pm: |
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I think you missed the point, should I buy a new factory jack, or an aftermarket. |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 81 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:10 pm: |
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Once again, you missed the point. Is the factory jack just going to crap out on me again, ie: design defect, or is it generally a reliable item. |
   
Matt Moore (Mmoore)
New Member Username: Mmoore
Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:12 pm: |
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This guy is just "dickey mee" using a different name. He majors in missing the point. |
   
Leo (Leo_hallak)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Leo_hallak
Post Number: 197 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:15 pm: |
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Any quality one is fine. I carry a heavier duty bottle jack in the back of the car for times I dont have my Hi-Lift. I havent ever taken the factory one out. I have never priced one from LR but I would sit down when they tell you it. -Leo
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Geoff 93 RRC (Geoff)
Senior Member Username: Geoff
Post Number: 270 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:18 pm: |
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You can get a bottle jack for as I recall under $20 at Pep Boys or Sears. Personally I wouldn't splurge for the factory one unless you really need to keep it "original". |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 82 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:24 pm: |
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The "Gen-u-ine" one from AB is ~$175.00. I'm leaning toward a bottle jack from HD/Lowe's can't see any reason they won't work, but was wanting a 2nd opnion. |
   
Dick Walker (Wyo183121)
New Member Username: Wyo183121
Post Number: 11 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 05:56 pm: |
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I purchased a used one for $35 from a posting on this board. |
   
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d
Post Number: 1489 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:29 pm: |
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The LR jask is actually pretty unusual in that it is a 2 stage jack with a tall lift for its size/.weight. I've not seen them in the *marts |
   
Joe B (Denverrover)
Member Username: Denverrover
Post Number: 161 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:44 pm: |
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6 ton hydraulic at Home Depot $19.99. |
   
Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor)
Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor
Post Number: 1663 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:52 pm: |
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yeah, alot of them have screww out adjustment to take care of the two stage thing. the best thing about the LR jack is htat it has that sweet V shapre thatcradles the axel nicely. the other jack you get are usually flat on top and you have to be alittle more cautious. rd |
   
Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
Senior Member Username: Chris_browne
Post Number: 650 Registered: 02-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 06:58 pm: |
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http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=10138 On stock tires this one may have enough reach....just never measured the distance from ground to axle tube so what do I know ;) |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 83 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 07:22 pm: |
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Thanks for the suggestions but, has NE1 else blown out the factory jack, or was mine just made on monday? |
   
Kristopher March (Apexdisco)
Senior Member Username: Apexdisco
Post Number: 316 Registered: 02-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 08:09 pm: |
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yeah, my jack puked up too - 99 DI I tried to replace the hydraulic fluid and repair it with no luck. I still have it sitting around. One day I'll figure out how to completely fix it. Ended up going to Sears for a replacement bottle jack. |
   
James Briscoe (Rockywood)
New Member Username: Rockywood
Post Number: 31 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 11:39 pm: |
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Same situation here (as Kristopher). I bought a 12 ton jack for like $50... I know that is over kill but it still fits under the axle! The second stage of my replacement is the screw out type. It also has a flat top so I will probably weld a U thingy on the top for added safety. I tried to replace the fluid first but no luck at all. I just got soaked. I was hoping to learn if someone has figured out how to do this. |
   
Anre Pretorius (Anr�)
New Member Username: Anr�
Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 02:17 am: |
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My LR bottle jack literally exploded on me!! Fortunately it shot away from where I was sitting. What happened was that the 2nd section ripped open and shot oil all over the place! Scary thought... |
   
Alan Greening (Alan_g)
Member Username: Alan_g
Post Number: 84 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 03:32 am: |
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Mine did the same thing and I got a local hydraulic specialist to fix it, it only cost �12. I'm not sure about the V8's, but on the Tdi's the jack sits under the bonnet (hood) so it's one less lump so be flying about in the back. |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 84 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:44 am: |
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My 2 concerns are keeping it in the factory location, (battery box), & piston length. Alan, do you know what was involved w/ the repair? |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 85 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:57 am: |
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BTW, How the hell is the jack secured in the box? Mine has the remains of some sort of rubber strap, but I can't tell where it would attach. |
   
Alan Greening (Alan_g)
Member Username: Alan_g
Post Number: 85 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:29 am: |
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Bob, he just replaced the seals and put new fluid in. Apparently he does quite a few Land Rover jacks. Mine is held in by a real heavy duty rubber band which goes round the jack and hooks round a hook. If I can find the digital camera, I'll try and post a photo. |
   
Alan Greening (Alan_g)
Member Username: Alan_g
Post Number: 86 Registered: 04-2003
| Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 10:52 am: |
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The jack is in a plastic bag. The shot was taken leaning over the wing, into the engine bay. This is directly behind the headlight. |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 994 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 12:09 am: |
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I was told to keep an eye on mine while I'm in my warranty period. I was told that they had some trouble with some of them and that LR replaced them for free. Are you still in your warranty period? Good Luck, Jamie |
   
Tony Zuniga (Tony23007)
Senior Member Username: Tony23007
Post Number: 303 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 12:32 am: |
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I bought myself a heavy duty 12 ton jack, it works nicely when I do repairs at home. But I still have my genuine in the car all the time. If you can't repair yours call a wrecking company and see if you can get a genuine "used" from them to keep in your car!!!! |
   
jakob carstensen (Jakobc)
New Member Username: Jakobc
Post Number: 3 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 11:11 am: |
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The factory jack's top is rounded to fit around the axel - if you buy one with a flat top I guess you don't place it under the axel .. where do you place it? Btw my factory jack has a piece of velcro to keep it in place. |
   
Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad)
Senior Member Username: Uzbad
Post Number: 322 Registered: 08-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 11:17 am: |
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Jakob - use same jacking points as before. Only thing you might want to add - put old latex/resin glove on top. It will add better "grabbing" and will protect antirust cover a bit...
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Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 1002 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:02 pm: |
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Jakob, Do you have bins in your cargo area? I put mine there as far forward in the bin as possible. I secured the lid of the bin just in case we ever roll. Good Luck, Jamie |
   
Jamie (Rover_puppy)
Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy
Post Number: 1003 Registered: 05-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:05 pm: |
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Oh geez, I just realized you meant where do you place it when you're using it instead of where do you place it IN your truck!! Sorry about that!!  |
   
Bob Shinn (Bshinn)
Member Username: Bshinn
Post Number: 89 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:25 pm: |
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Thanks Jamie, but it's a 99. Bought a 12ton @ lowes yesterday but it's just too damn big. Gonna try the 6ton & see if that works. |
   
Big Ed (Sandman)
Member Username: Sandman
Post Number: 46 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 01:45 am: |
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Jacks ... Schmacks! Call AAA! I once put a hole in the shoulder of the "freeway" when my jack sunk into the tarmac and down into the sand! Good thing I wasn't under the truck at the time. It's something new every week over here! SandMan |