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     Dale Farr (Farrdg) New Member Username: Farrdg Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2003 |
Getting ready to buy new tires, does any one have any feedback about these tires? Is one better than the other? I have always used BFG's, but the new Goodyears look like they might provide a better street ride in terms of handeling and wet traction? Any one used the Goodyears compared to the BFG's? Are the BFG's still the best tire going? Thanks for your advice. Dale Farr | ||||||
| Timothy A. Green (Tree_trimmer) New Member Username: Tree_trimmer Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2004 |
Dale, I have the MTR's in 265/75R 16, going on 7 months now. Love them so far, not too noisy and very good off road. Haven't had them in really sticky gumbo mud yet, they work well in soupy mud though. There was a thread within the last two weeks where quite a few opinions for both tires were given. I scanned the topics and couldn't remember which thread it was. Maybe somebody else can direct you. Tim | ||||||
| Ryan Roundy (Rrefxut) Member Username: Rrefxut Post Number: 51 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hey Dale, Both are Great tires! You can't go wrong with either. The MTR did rate a little better on wet and icey surfaces than the BFG, but as far as I know, that's about the only differance you will notice. When I was the service manager in a few tire shops, we never had any complaints on either... except for a few people on the price, but you'll allways get that. Good Luck, Ryan | ||||||
| Dale Farr (Farrdg) New Member Username: Farrdg Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thanks for the info; I am looking for a mud tire that will work a little better in snow and rain. I love the BFG's but the Goodyear’s seem like the way to go. Do you know if the sidewall is as good as the BFG? I hate soft tires that sway (poor handling) on the highway. Dale Farr | ||||||
| Ryan Roundy (Rrefxut) Member Username: Rrefxut Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2003 |
The MTR's have a puncture resistant sidewall... can't quite recall the ply, but they are a little firmer than the KO's, I gotta admitt, when it comes to sidewall and ride, the BFG's can't be beat, but the MTR won't be too much of a differance. Ryan | ||||||
| Dale Farr (Farrdg) New Member Username: Farrdg Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2003 |
Thanks Ryan.. Dale Farr | ||||||
| Justin V. Nevitt (What_rd) New Member Username: What_rd Post Number: 5 Registered: 02-2004 |
I've had experience with both. They both work well offroad. Goodyear has always had a puncture problem that pretty much rendered them as street tires; but, with the MTR, they finally made a tire that can handle the terrain. As for street comfort, the BFG KM way over the MTR. The lugs over lap better giving a better transition from lug to lug providing a smoother ride. Now if you don't rotate and balance mud tires every 3K miles, it won't matter, because they both will ride like crap. (They require twice the maintenance of allterrains.) Peace. | ||||||
| Dale Farr (Farrdg) New Member Username: Farrdg Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2003 |
I think that I will stick with the BFG's, I have never had a problem with them yet, but I have had problems (flats with Goodyear tires) in the past. I can alway sipe the tires in the center for extra traction in the snow. AT's have always been great, but not good in the mud. The rotation factor is a good point, but not hard to do yourself. Thanks again for all of the advice. | ||||||
| Justin V. Nevitt (What_rd) New Member Username: What_rd Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2004 |
Word. | ||||||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 173 Registered: 12-2003 |
the bgf's wear a lot better than the goodyear wrangler mtr's, my friends gone thru 2 sets of wrangler mtr's and i'm on my first second gen mud terrains. Cheers Jack | ||||||
| Jack Leitch (Liveattheedge) Member Username: Liveattheedge Post Number: 174 Registered: 12-2003 |
o, i forgot, the wrangler mtr's are really loud on the street, much louder than the bfg's Cheers Jack | ||||||
| Brian Brown (Rtiqulatendisco) New Member Username: Rtiqulatendisco Post Number: 25 Registered: 01-2004 |
Horse Shit! MTR's are quiter on the road. I just had them for 2 years. Now running 255/85 BFG's, and they are better off road, but more noise on the road. If your choice is between MTR'S and AT's get the MTR's. Remember, half of D-wed will drop $1200 on a roof rack and bitch over getting a TRUE locker or a TT. Get what you feel is right for your needs!!! I'm Rick James Bitch! | ||||||
| Alan Yim (Alan) Senior Member Username: Alan Post Number: 1093 Registered: 09-2002 |
...also remember, these are people's personal opinions and what they deem as acceptable or unacceptable may be different from your own criteria. I have BFG AT's and have had no problems with them but I also wouldn't mind a second set of mud-tires or MTR's either so I have the best of both worlds but that's just me. Dale, I don't think you can really go wrong with either tire. Just pick the one you feel most comfortable with and go with it. | ||||||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 541 Registered: 01-2003 |
I don't have experience with the KOs, but the MTRs do not stop well on wet or icy mix roads. They lock up and skid much faster than any other tire I've used. Even with feathering the brakes & slowing down way before I need to stop, I always feel like I am just at the skidding threshold. In any kind of emergency stop, they skid. My designed completely for off road, louder than an airplane Power King Super Traction Tread tires were better street tires than the stupid MTRs. I didn't find the MTRs to be too great off-road, either. For me, they are a compromise tire that doesn't do anything well. | ||||||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2534 Registered: 02-2002 |
No shit. What does stop well on those conditions? Dale, Here's another recent conversation on this topic. ../2/43639.html"#444444"> | Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 542 Registered: 01-2003 |
The XPCs, the Goodyear HPs, Coopers, whatever crap tires are on my RRC, my Super Traction Tires, BFG ATs, whatever tires are on new RRs, whatever tires are on Freelanders, in short, EVERY OTHER TIRE I'VE EVER DRIVEN in those conditions. The MTRs lock up when it's sprinkling. They are downright dangerous when there is anything but completely dry pavement to drive on. I am not a speed demon when it comes to driving. I leave tons of room between me & the next person as it is. I allow the vehicle to slow down before applying the brakes, I feather the brakes when I do stop, and I STILL SKID and SLIDE in wet weather. I'm just talking rain here. It doesn't even have to be a lot of rain! Don't even get me started on snow or patchy icy roads. The MTRs are crap on-road. | ||||
| Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Dweb Lounge Member Username: V22guy Post Number: 2536 Registered: 02-2002 |
Damn Alyssa, Cut back on the triple lattes. Everyone's experiences can be very different. I haven't experienced this "locking-up" phenomenom yet. Sliding down the side of a mountain because the tread was full of mud; Yes. Snow and ice; no. During last years President's Day Blizzard, I drove six hours in heavy wind, snow, and ice from WV into NC. The MTRs I had on the Pig performed excellently in those conditions and this was after a weekend of off-roading in WV. In fact, it was quite comical to see all the cars strewn about on I-40. It looked like a demolition derby that lasted for 60 miles! With the MTR's I was able to maintain 45 mph in the fast last lane and made it home safely. | ||||||
| Ron Brown (Ron) Senior Member Username: Ron Post Number: 773 Registered: 04-2001 |
"I haven't experienced this "locking-up" phenomenom yet." Paul that is because you have ABS. Anything with BIG non siped lugs will skid on rain/ice. Even with ABS your stopping distance is greatly lengthened. Ron | ||||||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Senior Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 370 Registered: 12-2002 |
MTRs may be unruly on the road but they are unbelievable on the slickrock. BFG mt are nice, but on slickrock the MTRs are better. But on the road ALL mud terrains are obnoxious, period. So, buy your tire based on how you use you vehicle, some times the sex appeal isn't worth the hassle. marc D1 currently sportin' BFG ATs | ||||||
| Ho Chung (Thediscoho) Moderator Username: Thediscoho Post Number: 675 Registered: 02-2002 |
marc, only sometimes?  Ho Chung | ||||||
| Will Selden (Ncrcwill) New Member Username: Ncrcwill Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2004 |
Tires are like shoes, hard to have just one pair that will be great with every occation. You wouldn't want to wear high heels or dress shoes playing in a rugby match, nor would you want to wear your hunting or hiking boots to a formal dinner. My 2 cents would be to evaluate your specific needs for off road vs. on road usage. If you can afford having 2 sets of tires great. If not just get used to wearing your hunting boots while dancing. MTR's came with my D1 so they'll stay for now | ||||||
| Greg P. (Gparrish) Senior Member Username: Gparrish Post Number: 1590 Registered: 11-2003 |
While I don't have MTR's on my truck now, I've had two different sets on it in the recent past year. Both in my opinion were more sure footed tires on road than the Goodyear HP's that came on the truck and the Bridgestone A/T's that are on it now. I drove on the MTR's for a year and a half in the Philly area and experienced snow and ice without a problem. I used them in the Pocono mountains in 24 inches of snow on two occassions and on the drive back in the middle of a major snow storm with so much snow on the road that there were only a few cars out. Not once did I have a problem, but maybe it's because of ABS like Ron suggested. gp | ||||||
| Joe Cole (Joe_cole) New Member Username: Joe_cole Post Number: 9 Registered: 07-2003 |
What about Firestone Destination MT's? Anyone with any experience? | ||||||
| Matt Moore (Mmoore) New Member Username: Mmoore Post Number: 34 Registered: 01-2004 |
I've had 215/85 Firestone Distination MT's on for about 2500 miles. They are great so far but I have not had them in anything too difficult. I also have not had them on long to speak of durability. They do seem to work very well on a wide variety of surfaces and they are quieter on the road than other MT's I've had. We'll see how they work over the long haul but so far so good. | ||||||
| Shane Lesteberg (Snwbord24) New Member Username: Snwbord24 Post Number: 40 Registered: 01-2004 |
It's raining here right now so on my way home for lunch I slammed on the brakes a few times from about 15-20 mpg to see if I'd slide. I didn't have a problem at all, the abs never had to do a thing. I've got new BFG MT 265/75R16's on. I don't have any experience with the MTR's though. | ||||||
| Alyssa Brown (Alyssa) Senior Member Username: Alyssa Post Number: 548 Registered: 01-2003 |
Guys, this is my personal experience with the MTRs on my truck. I'm running on Greg's old tires. So it pretty much has to be truck-related. Are all of you with the MTRs in DIIs? Or DI's? Anyone who knows us knows how many friggin' tires we own... and all the LRs to go with them. I never had a problem on my Discovery with the XPCs. I don't think I ever locked a wheel with them. I ran the super traction tread tires every day, and didn't lock up in the rain. I have repeatedly locked up with the MTRs. Ron's locked up with the MTRs in my car, too, so it isn't just me. I'm not happy with these tires. I think they are too tame for off-road and not tame enough for on-road. If you're serious about off-roading, and you are going to be in mud, get a serious mud tire, and mount them on a set of steel wheels. Drive every day on your on-road tires on your alloy wheels. Or if you're going out every weekend, put on some serious tires & put up with the noise & lousy on road handling. Like Will said, no tire does all things well. | ||||||
| eric johnson (Eric2) Senior Member Username: Eric2 Post Number: 290 Registered: 05-2003 |
Tire Rack Survey: www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/ormt.jsp | ||||||
| Gordon Turner (Gordo) Member Username: Gordo Post Number: 68 Registered: 07-2003 |
On a side note, I have heard that the Firestone Destination MTs will tear off lugs rather easy. I had the Bridgestone Dueler MTs on my Rangie before I switched to the BFG MT. Duelers side walls are only 2ply and puncture rather easy, otherwise they are a great tire. The beads are spring loaded too, which is a cool idea. I dont think they can be beat MT vs MT on wet pavement. Since I was going to 255/85/16 and wanted a tougher tire, I went BFG. Hard to beat them all around. Gordo |
