| Author | Message | ||
     David Seger (Croakus) Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 89 Registered: 06-2003 |
Does anyone have a suggestion for heavy duty u-joint options for a D2 front axel? I was under my Rover today and the front drive shaft has a little play in it. It also looks like one of the u-joints is bleading out and going bad. It's under warranty but I would rather put in a heavy duty set. | ||
| not the same Mike (Mikem) Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 93 Registered: 02-2003 |
Contact Bill at Great Basin Rovers for u-joints. Do a search and read the horror stories from people who had the front drive shaft fail. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 674 Registered: 03-2002 |
ditto for bill... just did the same repair. | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) New Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 32 Registered: 01-2004 |
I put in a Tom Wood's custom front drive shaft, although the dealer told me that the new LR units were redesigned in 03... | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 90 Registered: 06-2003 |
I called the dealer. The 3" lift is "suposed to void the warranty." He did say the new D2 drive shaft is a lot stronger, but it's also $500 for the part. I'd love to put a Tom Woods shaft on it. Where did you purchase yours? I should have no problems installing it myself. | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1510 Registered: 02-2002 |
David - it depends on the dealer. I have a 2" lifty and the drive shaft was replaced under warranty just because one of the grease fittings had sheared off! | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) New Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 33 Registered: 01-2004 |
You can order them direct from Tom Woods...the website is http://4xshaft.com/ | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 91 Registered: 06-2003 |
I will upgrade to the Tom Woods drive shafts in time. If I have to, I'll do it now. I just know that doing so will start the fast downhill decent of my savings account. I'll just have to get 4.11 gears and lockers to go with those nice drive shafts. And then you've got to have heavy duty half shafts. Not to mention some nice meaty tires to go on the ends. Anyway, I'm having the dealership look at mine tomorrow to determine if it's a warranty repair. The Knoxville, TN dealership is absolutely top notch and has even replaced my wheel caps under warranty. But I would have to understand if the 3" lift I've put on voids the drive shaft warranty. If they will put a new one on for free (or even work with me) I'll stick with the stock shaft for now. Otherwise I'll start looking for places to sell a kidney. | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 32 Registered: 02-2003 |
Steve, My DSII has he GB serviceable U-joints in front. I should have just done it right and replaced the whole unit. Oh well... the Tom Woods sounds like a future upgrade. Can you elaborate on cost and part number? I have the GB HD rear driveshaft. Very stout. But balanced poorly for speeds beyond 75Mph where the vibes begin to get ugly. Hopefully Tom Woods does a better job. -Barry | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 677 Registered: 03-2002 |
my great basins rear driveshaft is smooth as silk as fast as i can get my brick to go...maybe you should have informed bill. mike | ||
| not the same Mike (Mikem) Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 94 Registered: 02-2003 |
Barry, I'm interested in why you want to swap out your front drive shaft. Is it a problem with the u-joints or the shaft itself? I just replaced my u-joints with the GB servicable u-joints and am wondering if there are any issues I should look out for. Mike | ||
| Steve Turpin (Steveturpin) New Member Username: Steveturpin Post Number: 34 Registered: 01-2004 |
I got my TW shaft from http://www.aedofab.com/ just tell them what vehicle it is for, and provide them a flange to flange measurement...cost was around $350 shipped... | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 680 Registered: 03-2002 |
mikem i'm not barry, but for what its worth, bill at great basins told me that the front (being a double cardon) drive shaft is not a bad shaft. the main trouble is that they are not servicable u-joints. that aside, he also told me he was working on an entire replacement unit as well. again, that aside, i hear much more regarding u-joint failure than shaft failure, so i am not going to lose any sleep over it now that i can grease my u-joints... mike | ||
| not the same Mike (Mikem) Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 95 Registered: 02-2003 |
Mike b, Bill told me the same thing. I was wondering why Barry wants to replace his front shaft if he already has servicable u-joints. I've never heard anything bad about Bill's u-joints...just looking for more information. | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 681 Registered: 03-2002 |
compredo...! | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2003 |
MikeM, The GB solution gives you serviceable u-joints to replace the sealed double cardon. The front u-joint remains non-serviceable. A potential time bomb? I don't know. Does the TW use serviceable fittings at both ends? I don't know. What I do know ...there is still a weak link in my front driveshaft. Not likely the 4.0 buick needs a HD shaft. The main reason I should have gone with a complete HD unit up front? After buying the parts from Bill and getting the SHAFT from Bayshore Truck for the conversion/installation, a complete/new TW unit would have made more sense. Installation is a no brainer. Yea...life in the big city...live and learn. -Barry | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2003 |
MikeM, The GB solution gives you serviceable u-joints to replace the sealed double cardon. The front u-joint remains non-serviceable. A potential time bomb? I don't know. Does the TW use serviceable fittings at both ends? I don't know. What I do know ...there is still a weak link in my front driveshaft. Not likely the 4.0 powerplant needs a HD shaft. The main reason I should have gone with a complete HD unit up front? After buying the parts from Bill and getting the SHAFT from Bayshore Truck for the conversion/installation, it would have cost about as much to buy a complete/new TW unit. Installation is a no brainer. Yea...life in the big city...live and learn. -Barry | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 682 Registered: 03-2002 |
you might take a closer look, barry... on my 2001 DII, the front u-joint has a grease fitting. so, with bill's double cardon replacements, all three u-joints on my front shaft can be greased. hope it is the same for you... mike | ||
| David Seger (Croakus) Member Username: Croakus Post Number: 93 Registered: 06-2003 |
The dealer said there's some play in the drive shaft but it's not terminal yet. I don't have any noise yet so I'll drive it until I hear the distinct squeal that means I'll soon part with a large amount of money. I did contact GBR about the joints. They sell a kit with everything you need (including a grease gun fitting!) to convert the CV joint at the transfer case end to servicable U-Joints for $100. I'm sure that's what you guys used. He also said the joint at the diff end was servicable from the factory. So if you're not putting grease in that thing, it's definitely a ticking time bomb <g>. | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 35 Registered: 02-2003 |
Michael, In my case, 2000DSII (built 08/99), there are no zerk fittings on the front u-joint/shaft. My bad for ordering a replacement part without a close visual confirmation of the stock setup. The GB unit does have nice flush mount zerks. -Barry | ||
| Barry (Barry) New Member Username: Barry Post Number: 36 Registered: 02-2003 |
Michael, In my case, 2000DSII (built 08/99), there are no zerk fittings on the front u-joint/shaft. My bad for ordering a replacement part without a close visual confirmation of the stock setup. The GB unit does have nice flush mount zerks. -Barry | ||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 683 Registered: 03-2002 |
damn...bummer, barry... those flush zerks do rock though. ;) good luck getting your set-up set-up... mike | ||
| Greg Davis (Gregdavis) Senior Member Username: Gregdavis Post Number: 1173 Registered: 08-2002 |
David, beware. Some on here have had basically NO warning before their front shaft let go. $100 spent now can prevent thousands in repairs later. And I do mean thousands. When that heavy DC joint starts flailing around under there, it usually takes out the cat, transmission, and sometimes the front of the x-fer case. It's not a pretty sight! | ||
| Frank Rafka (Mongosd2) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Mongosd2 Post Number: 424 Registered: 02-2003 |
I'm with Greg on that...Total warranty repair $9700.00 Both Ctts, transmission, tcase, drive shaft...had slight vibe then BAM!!!! I only had 22k on my rig when it let go. Frank | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 331 Registered: 08-2003 |
"Does the TW use serviceable fittings at both ends? I don't know." I do. It does.  |
