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Toby Walsh (Toby)
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Username: Toby

Post Number: 18
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi guys,

Just wondering what's behind the PTO mount towards the rear of the vehicle? 98 D1. Sort of textured metal, about 4-5mm thick? Looks like the footwell for the passenger area. But then, inside the car the footwell depth seems pretty constant from the passenger area through to the front seat footwells. Reason I'm asking is I'm thinking about getting a Maxi-drive PTO unit and space is pretty tight down there. They say the unit is suitable for Defender, Disco and RRC (i.e. fits the LT230) but the smallest pump + PTO measures 165mm and I measure 140mm space without cutting and possibly 160mm with some cutting but without cutting into the footwell? Plus I want the biggest pump which is 188mm with the PTO. So, anyone know what's up there and whether I can cut into it?

Just out of interest, the intended project is to have the PTO and Cross hyd. pump on the transfer case, then at the (Australian) driver's rear I want to mount a York compressor and Cross hyd. motor on a bracket welded to the frame behind the rear driver's side wheel. I'll have a machined pulley on the motor output shaft and drive the compressor with belts at 1:1 ratio. For about AUD$1000 I would have a full-powered York. I don't have a workshop compressor so this would take the place of that plus let me use tools on the trail. Considering a (decent) 12V electric 4wd compressor is usually around the AUD$400 range, I'll be getting much more than 2.5 times the output at 100% duty cycle. Later on I'll use the same hydraulic system regulated down for a winch.

Thanks in advance.
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Username: Deanbrown3d

Post Number: 1505
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've heard you have to cut into the floor to get that thing on a disco2. But unfortunately information is pretty sparse on this subject, so please make a quick write-up if ever you get one installed. I'd be interested to see what you do.

Thanks, Dean
 

Toby Walsh (Toby)
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Username: Toby

Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mmm, that's what I thought it might be - cutting into the floor, which sucks. I might e-mail Mal again and ask his advice. It's a D1, but I would guess the area in question is probably fairly similar to the D2's. BTW, in the 1st post, I meant "rear seat passenger area" whenever I said "passenger area". Oops.

I will write it up if I get it done. Something I've been interested in for a while. I want a decent compressor and there's no room for a York on the serpentine or aircon belts. Maybe a Sanden or Nippondenso style compressor, but it's still a big maybe plus I'd like to leave the engine stock. A heavy York hanging off one side of the TDi couldn't be good. If it were a D2, I'd probably source an SLS/EAS compressor, but I think they have less duty cycle. After I abandoned the engine-driven idea, I bought a surplus winch motor to make my own Oasis style setup. But the Oasis draws up to 200-odd amps so eventually I gave up on that - too many electrical issues, plus low duty cycle. So, for less $$ (in Oz, anyway) than an Oasis, I'll get a better air system + an onboard hydraulic system. If I had even more $$, I'd get hydraulic tools instead of pneumatic ones. The coolness factor is even higher ;). I remember once reading someone's post who said something like "Imagine pulling up next to a young woman with a flat and pulling out your air impact wrench to help change the wheel". Substitute air for hydraulic for added coolness ;).
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Username: Deanbrown3d

Post Number: 1514
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I nice little pneumatic bottle jack would be handy too in that situation:-)

Call Bill at Great Basin Rovers, I think he sells the entire PTO winch setup including the maxidrive pump. And he's a wealth of information.
 

Toby Walsh (Toby)
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Username: Toby

Post Number: 20
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I might e-mail Bill. But I'm in Oz and I've been in contact with Mal Storey (of Maxi-drive) directly a few times. Just thought I'd get a faster reply here.

Re the jack - I recently read about a farmer here in Oz who had an onboard hydraulic system. He had installed 4 hyd. rams on the frame near each wheel. At the push of a button he'd get instant jacking. Pretty cool :-). Apparently the vehicle was a POS due to rust and age, but he'd done some nifty tinkering over the years.

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