| Author | Message | ||
     Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 49 Registered: 02-2004 |
I know this has been beaten to death, and I apologize in advance... I read through all the debate last month about BL vs SL, but I don't think I recall seeing anything about the Rover Tym 4" lift, a combo 2" SL and 2" BL. Does anyone have this installed? does it hurt/help handling, towing, etc? I've heard good and bad about BL vs SL, but I was wondering specifically about the Rover Tym kit. Thanks. | ||
| 20/20/20 (Chrisseries1) New Member Username: Chrisseries1 Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2004 |
the type of lift you want is up to you. the type of driving you do will require you to make the modifications that are needed. if you lift the suspension too much this is where you will start to run into the problems. driveline modifications start to become harder and harder to trace down. so with that said i will attach some links to other sites so that you can see what is going on www.pirate4x4.com www.expeditionexchange.com these sites have good articles on what people have done to their rovers. pirate has some good pictures of heavy modified rovers also look into scorpion racing suspension. hope this helps | ||
| Will Cupp (W_cupp) Senior Member Username: W_cupp Post Number: 387 Registered: 07-2003 |
I have the 2" SL and the 2" BL. I cannot say it is "better" than anything else, because I have never had anything else on my truck. But, it works for me. Does it hurt handling? Of course! Does it effect towing? Of course! I can still tow a 1500lb trailer full of stuff at 70mph on level roads, but before I could do 70mph up hill. The tires were the main "speed killer", but there is really no difference between the 265/75's or the 255/85's in towing. If I ever built another Discovery 1 I would change from OME to Rovertym Springs, and use duel ARB's instead of the Detroit/TT combo. Everything else I like, including the body lift. It's all in what you want. Someone else cannot tell you how to build your truck. Bodylifts got a bad rep back when people put them on Bronco 2's, and Toyota pick-ups (they looked like crap IMO), but the frame is still hidden on a disco, and it lets you fit a slightly bigger tire. If you do not want a slightly bigger tire you may not want the body lift. I have had good luck with 265/75's off-road, but there are places where that extra 1/2-3/4" of hight helps out. That is sometimes the difference of getting centered on your diff or not. Just my $.02 | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 58 Registered: 02-2004 |
I've heard that a lift can hurt gas mileage -- is this true? how so? | ||
| kay tell (Chrisseries1) Member Username: Chrisseries1 Post Number: 53 Registered: 03-2004 |
dave all lifts hurt gas mileage! more air flowing underneath the truck then over it. this is why fast cars are lowered. changing tyres will effect gearing. requiring more gas peddal to keep it moving. mud tyres offer more rolling resistance. with that said | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 169 Registered: 06-2003 |
I have the 2" Rovertym BL... installed it myself and have no complaints.. I'll be using it with the nwp 2.5" Springs.. The 2" SL with a 2" BL is the highest lift that can be obtained without getting into drivetrain modifications. (That I know of) After installing the BL I felt no difference in handling I also tow a small 14ft boat and notice no change? keep in mind on the pavement I'm no lead foot. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 62 Registered: 02-2004 |
I'd definitely like to stay away from driveline mods. I'm a college student and def don't have that kind of money. I may go w/ a SL and see what happens. Would it be difficult to do a SL and then a BL later? Or would it be best to do it all at once? As far as fitting bigger tires, I was looking @ 235/85 (taller and skinny) I'd like to stay away from trimming as much as possible (exception being for the RTE rear bumper). Thanks for the input so far. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 67 Registered: 02-2004 |
I spoke with my bro in law -- he advised me agains a SL, said there were too many problems associated with it and I should stick w/ a BL - but he has a chevy pickup, so perhaps this is chevy specific... From what I understand, on discos an SL is ok up to 2" - ie, no real problems. My problem with the BL is that I'm afraid to get the frame hung up on an obstacle. On the other hand, my center of gravity would benefit from a BL. I'm also pro-SL because of working on "rice-burners" and it's clear to see how diff springs drastically change the handling and capabilities of a vehicle. Any thoughts? | ||
| Phil (Discoanywhere) Member Username: Discoanywhere Post Number: 171 Registered: 06-2003 |
Dave -Sounds like your on the money.. The BL is strickly to give your body more clearance..and helps with tire clearances or in some cases makes you look cool for $20 bucks in hockey pucks.. I got the rovertym Bl and its a quality lift not some hillbilly lift although you'll have hillybilly bumpers that look low... A 2" SL on a disco is simple and easy and won't result in drivetrain problems! Those chevy guys don't disco...lol IMO start with the suspension lift and if you find you need or want to go higher install the BL. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2004 |
Thats what I was thinking -- Just wanted a 2nd opinion. Looks like SL lift it is, when I get the $$. Thanks. | ||
| Alan E. Foster (Vt_alan) Member Username: Vt_alan Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2003 |
Dave, I've installed quite a few lifts, I may be able to help you with yours when you're ready, if time allows. ... and, I have driveway space! -Alan | ||
| Sergei Rodionov (Uzbad) Senior Member Username: Uzbad Post Number: 368 Registered: 08-2003 |
"center of gravity would benefit from a BL" Eh? How? if anything it will become worse, b/c your center of weight will be higher, making you easier to roll over on turns and in case of side collisions. Let me illustrate it  Sit on your nice office chair with air chamber. Now raise it a bit (suspension lift). You becoming easier to tip over, but not much. Now lower it again, grab some books and stick them under yourself. Now try to tip over | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2004 |
That would be great, alan -- if I can afford it before summer Perhaps I can find a used set and convince my dad that it's a great value I cant pass up. I have to convince him because I still kinda owe him $3k. | ||
| b d e (Chrisseries1) Member Username: Chrisseries1 Post Number: 86 Registered: 03-2004 |
just a thought. maybe add in spring spacers if you dont got the dough for the suspension lift. that way you will keep the springs and shocks that you are on now. check out www.expeditionexchange.com for some cheep mods and also a good read. | ||
| Eric N (Eric_n) Member Username: Eric_n Post Number: 86 Registered: 01-2004 |
A few things to think about. 1) You can still get vibes from just a two inch suspension lift. Keep your old parts and label them just in case they have to go back on. It's a slim chance but, it happens. I got vibes from a 2 inch lift. 2) Rovertym recomends that you get stiffer springs if you go with one of their body lifts. The stock springs will be pretty stressed with the added leverage on them from the higher weight. You'll notice it in turns by and increased amount of lean. 3) You'll probably see the same effects only maybe even a little worse if you put spacers under your stock springs as you would with the body lift. Again for the same reason. Get the new springs in 1.5 to 2 inches and you will probably be OK. If not take them out and hold onto them while you save money for driveline corrections if needed. 99% of the folks that have 2 inch lifts have never had any issues. Of course there is always a chance you could be the lucky 1% that does. So keep that in mind. Good luck with whatever your choice is. | ||
| Brian Brown (Rtiqulatendisco) Member Username: Rtiqulatendisco Post Number: 48 Registered: 01-2004 |
I had bad rear vibes with 2 inches. | ||
| Dave Statler (Falconx84) Member Username: Falconx84 Post Number: 88 Registered: 02-2004 |
Thanks for your input, guys .... I think I'm going to go for the 2" SL lift first, esp since seeing the new thread on OME flex. Right now, I've got to wait for some cash unless someone has a used set of springs they'd like to part with. |
