| Author | Message | ||
     matt wawak (Chicagorovers) Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 51 Registered: 09-2003 |
I was talking to an electronics guru who said he was going to install a "chip" or some component in his 1998 D1 to enable the traction control ability that D2's have. (I think the ETC works off the ABS unit.) I wonder how complicated or expensive this would be. Actually, I wonder why someone would even want ETC in their D1. I guess it would make the series one Discovery equal to the 2004 Discoveries that have Diff lock and the ETC unit. Hmmmmmmmm. I have never seen a post on installing ETC before. | ||
| Justin V. Nevitt (What_rd) New Member Username: What_rd Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2004 |
Why? | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1554 Registered: 02-2002 |
ABS forces the brakes OFF the rotor, ETC forces them ON. So its more than simply the chip. | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 52 Registered: 09-2003 |
True. but I think the ETC chip senses the ratio of torque on each wheel ie "slipping" or lack of traction. It then enables the ABS to grip the slipping rotor which then provides torque to the wheel that hopefully has traction. | ||
| skip banel (Captin_potato) New Member Username: Captin_potato Post Number: 2 Registered: 03-2004 |
omg i have no comment but ill tell you what i know a few things about these cars, lets just say ive got some experence and it sounds like some POO to me | ||
| R. B. Bailey (Rover50987) Senior Member Username: Rover50987 Post Number: 771 Registered: 07-2002 |
So he is able to "find" (make?) this chip that BMW and Land Rover together are still developing through only it's first few generations? An ETS SYSTEM, not a program alone runs the traction control. There must be some pretty big differences in the pumps, and ABS type sensing equipment. It's like asking a Disco to pull an 18 wheeler trailer - well they both have wheels and a tow hitch! | ||
| thom mathie (Muskyman) Senior Member Username: Muskyman Post Number: 647 Registered: 11-2002 |
LOL....just spit it out skip  | ||
| Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d) Senior Member Username: Deanbrown3d Post Number: 1555 Registered: 02-2002 |
Matt, ABS doesn't work by applying braking pressure, it works by releasing the braking pressure. It doesn't grip anything. Traction control does this, and the disco 1 doesn't have it. | ||
| anthony heflin (Anthony) New Member Username: Anthony Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2004 |
Matt, A lot of people say theyre going to do a lot of "stuff", sounds like a load of rotoflexes to me! | ||
| Will Tillery (Will) Senior Member Username: Will Post Number: 374 Registered: 11-2002 |
Is he getting rid of the booster as well and switching to a servo/regulator?? | ||
| Curtis N (Curtis) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Curtis Post Number: 1246 Registered: 05-2002 |
I say he can do it. After all, if the pea brains at LR can make it happen, anyone can. Right? | ||
| sam (Dent) New Member Username: Dent Post Number: 19 Registered: 01-2004 |
I don't understand why anyone would *want* to install this for... wouldn't take away from the whole driving experience and dumb it up? sorta like automatics v standard? just steer and give the car some gas... sounds boring to me... | ||
| Craig Kobayashi (Koby) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Koby Post Number: 1143 Registered: 02-2002 |
I don't see why anyone would WANT to install lockers. Doesn't that take away fron the whole driving experience? Just steer and give the car some gas? Doesn't that also sound boring to you? | ||
| kay tell (Chrisseries1) Member Username: Chrisseries1 Post Number: 57 Registered: 03-2004 |
well i can tell you this. it this guy can do this conversion he should patent it, market it then sell it world wide and become filthy rich. i mean anything is possible. witht the right knowledge one can doe any thing. but yes it is just one more electrical function that is going to lead you stuck some where. anyway post pictures of the progress and let us know if it did work or if it failed. talk to you in two years time! lol | ||
| matt wawak (Chicagorovers) Member Username: Chicagorovers Post Number: 53 Registered: 09-2003 |
Yeah, It might be a while. I think his idea was more "conceptual" but I dont know many of the details. Personally an ARB system or detroit/TT set up would seem fine to me. This guy builds/designs electronic "stuff" for BMW, Chrysler, and Ford (including the ETC) and works on ECU units as well so I assumed it was 50% possible and he wasn't bull sh@#ing me. If I hear anything new Ill post it. | ||
| gordon german (Gordon) New Member Username: Gordon Post Number: 4 Registered: 02-2004 |
There's a company in Queensland Australia that has already developed an aftermarket "ETC" for the Rovers - I don't know too much about it, having only spoken to their tech guy once on the phone for 5 mins, but cost is around $A1000 per axle and it uses an air compressor?? It's been fitted to one or two competition RRC's over there and they're planning on releasing it commercially later this year. | ||
| Lyman Saltsman (Lyman) Member Username: Lyman Post Number: 59 Registered: 02-2004 |
I know of a 98lse (chrome bumpers) that HAS rear traction control....sure enough RR classic parts from the factory. More than just "a chip", it has the complete abs pump and booster. | ||
| Tom Fioretti (Tom_in_md) Member Username: Tom_in_md Post Number: 154 Registered: 02-2003 |
How about getting him to work on a CDL chip for late model D2s ? Now THAT would be worth the effort.. | ||
| Chris Browne (Chris_browne) Senior Member Username: Chris_browne Post Number: 694 Registered: 02-2003 |
94-95 RRCs had traction control so it is possible using LR parts bin... |
