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JPVT
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:13 am: | 
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I don't know if anyone has noticed but the crap the put on the news these days pisses me right off and is an INSULT to NEWS JOURNALISM.Ray Lyson or whatever her name, is agood example of just how PATHETIC CNN has become.What used to be a great news channel now lays waste to anchors who don't deserv the preveledg to be there.
Watch out if a US senator has an affair it will be on the news for weeks! But, George Bush gves the CIA the go ahead to "topple" Saddam Huss. using lethal force and it gets a 2second mention.This could lead to our next world war and I have to sift through loads of BULLSHIT to find it.Clintons lawsuit got more attention??? Or how about the Catholic church..where is the pressure on them when ther priests are still church officials after being caught child molesting???
I turn on the news waiting to be informed and they have someinfomercial about a sad senate commitee listening to celebrities talk about privacy rights and some rare disease ( which at least has a little merit) YO, wheres the FUCKN NEWS? I had the impression that news stations and especially CNN had an obligation to inform the public ( you and me) of whats going on in the world and especially our country.
Is there not enough going on in the world that they have to replay the sameshit every 15 minutes? How am I to be informed?Instead we get the opninons and convictions of second rate actors about whats " hot " in ashion.
I feel for the news anchors who are stuck in a cube receiting the same crap all day.
HEADLINE NEWS FOR TODAY:
-Actor Adam Sandlar will join us and tell us how he feels New York has changed over the past 10 months.
-Trent Lott we speak to us on how well we have all adapted to the change in air travel.
-Speaking of air travel, the FBI announced to day that 75% of air ports are "insufficent" in safety matters and can not guarantee passengers of safe travel
-In other news Mike Tyson would like a rematch saying he had not been given enough TIME to prepare
Outside that everythig else is at peace in the world...or we are just not going to tell you since our rating hold more value than our journalism and we are a bunch of sell outs for commercial profit and what used to be our stock portfolio since the the DOW has become th 21st century TITANIC...O anyone here that Bush wants to put more than 20 off shore oil drilling "PLATFORMS" off the coast of California,Florida,and Alaska.O yeah he gave enviromentalists the slip when he OKed drilling in Alaska's oil ritch " protected" wilderness despite the fact it was outlawed to do so more than 10 years ago.
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Anonymous
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:16 am: |
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sorry about the spelling and grammer...I did not preview the message before posting |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:31 am: |
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Man, there's only one thing to do. Everything we're bombarded with is controlled by the large money/power brokers of the world. From the food on the grocery store shelves to the shit coming out of that box in your living room to the CDs and DVDs you pop in every weekend. They're all tools to get you to give the power to them. What do you expect them to feed you? Do what all optimally functioning bodies do: reject the poison.
Quote:"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who do not have it." -GBS
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Jake Hartley (Jake)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:39 am: |
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At least the oil drilling platforms are good news: good for the local economies and help wean us from the Saudi tit. Now if only we could get the ANWR project up and going....
I SUPPORT DOMESTIC OIL PRODUCTION AND I AM NOT ASHAMED TO SAY IT
You allegedly drive a Disco, one of the most fuel hungry vehicles around and you are against responsible drilling? Give me a break, or better yet, go get an electric car |
KJ
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 11:16 am: |
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Wanna get REALLY annoyed? Watch "Fox News", which I put in parentheses for a reason. Idiots on parade.
Karen |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 11:21 am: |
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Do you hug the tree before or after you bank it's bark off with your Disco?
Tom |
JPVT
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 11:49 am: |
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Look I drive a DISCO and I am getting another....that has nothing to do with off shore drilling. If you knew anything concernig it, you wuld know that off shore drillig will not have any effect on our business with the middle east. I don't hug trees, but I am aware of whats going on and try to acquire as much knowledge as I can. These people just simply don't do their jobs.
Its an important OCCUPATION. "NEWS" stations are thee to INFORM us of important INFORMATION. When they do not do their job, it effects what we do know and what we don't. f thats not important to you, well your an idiot i the true greek etymology of the word..your only concerned with yourself...so keep your opinion to yourself. It would piss you off ouldnt it if you went to a coffee shop and ordered a decaf cap. and got a regular coffee instead right? Well, why donsn't it bother you when the people responsible for telling you whats going on in the world don't?
What if your Land Rover dealer didn't share with you some information pertaining to a defect that makes your valves blow at 60k miles even though they knew about it...that would upset you wouldn't it? Wait a minute....LOL
My point is the DON"T do their JOB! And it effects EVERYONE....
SO TOM GO HUG SOME IGNORANCE BAHAHHAHAHAH |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 04:03 pm: |
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"But, George Bush gves the CIA the go ahead to "topple" Saddam Huss. using lethal force and it gets a 2second mention.This could lead to our next world war and I have to sift through loads of BULLSHIT to find it."
just taking a stab, and please dont let me confused as being a fan of the Clinton News Network, but maybe they arent reporting it because they have no CLUE what is going on. dude dont believe all that you see on TV. really.
mike w
PS unless its a video from discoweb.org |
94Rover
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 07:30 pm: |
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"Believe none of what you hear, and 1/2 of what you see"
94Rover |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 09:12 pm: |
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Objective news reporting went out the window as soon as they started pushing news anchors as celebrities. Hollywood, network tv, and big business are so tied together you've got no hope of getting decent unbiased news. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:49 pm: |
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Hug some ignorance? Huh? Who said CNN is responsible to you for anything? You paying the people to report news to you that you are concerned with? Nobody is responsible to you at all. Get over it, TV sucks. It is and always has been a medium for entertainment. Just keep it turned off and you won't be so upset about something that is on the idiot box.
I follow Adam Sandler very closely. I need every bit of information I can get. It really makes me mad when people like you complain that he gets too much coverage. OOOOOOO I could just scream. I am going to go post this on the Jeep forums as well to see who agrees.
Tom |
BW
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 01:49 am: |
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JPVT,
Do you prefer pine bark or just ole timey oak?
However, I commend you on your interest in world affairs. Most people after September 11 STILL can't point to Afghanistan on a world map.
Do not let CNN frustrate you. Major news medias - especially CNN - are propaganda machines. The Department of Defense uses CNN as a weapon.
You will NEVER know the full truth behind any story from just one news agency. The best you can do is review a variety of news medias across the globe. Then MAYBE you will have an 80% answer.
Remember - the average American is entertained by seeing Tyson get his ass kicked. CNN has to keep an audience.
An average American,
BW |
Kim S (Roverine)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 02:31 am: |
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JPVT,
I understand,,,, really, I do.  It's kind of like when I first found out there was really no such thing as Santa Claus ...
To quote Blue: (sorry, Blue, I probably won't get this right, and then you will have to sue me ) "The TeeVee is the 'Stupid Box'". And, "all that glitters is not gold" ...
"Clinton News Network", heh heh, I like one ... a perfect fit
Kim |
Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 03:27 am: |
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JPVT,
I must dissagree. I have done work in the offshore drilling industry, as well as project managment for some of the companies that make it up. I worked mostly in southeast Asia, but in the past, some of my clients and investors have been from the middle east.
Right now the middle east has us by the balls. We export most of the oil we produce and sell it to the countries that the Middle East won't. We barter it off with countries whose interests support our own. We use some, but not nearly as much as you'd expect. The rest is sold to the highest bidder. Remember, the companies are privately owned, and can damn near sell to whomever they want, which is OK. We just need to show them that America is capable of competing.
Our problem is that we don't drill enough here in the USA. America has the largest oil reserves of anywhere in the world. It just so happens that they sit under park lands, water bodies, and the ever popular gulf of mexico. So long as we cannot access our oil, and our war machine and economy need it to survive, we have to be careful what we do in the middle east.
Right now several companies are working on better methods of reaching this oil. I have worked on some of the technology, and it is amazing, believe me. Our biggest problem is the irresponsibility of our predecessors. The coast of Texas is heavily polluted with oil, mainly due to neglect. We have to show that we can do this without shiting up the enviornment before it will work. Hmmm... Kind of like Tread Lightly.
PS...Chill man, everyone is entitled to an opinion here. Even me occasionally.
Cheers,
Kenith |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 09:48 am: |
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well here we go again.......huggers against non-huggers. i just use the one arm hug myself, so you figure it out. haha
well what you said kennith is what makes many of us skeptical of the oil industry and their lack of responsiblity in many cases. but like any industry they have screw ups, but when THEY do they tend to have a fairly far reaching impact on where we live. a good example of course it the Valdez spill in Alaska. the pipeline which was completed in about 1975 was a very well managed project.....especially for its time (and people were paid accordingly). my father headed up the environmental impact study for the entire project. he basically was to keep an out on the Alyeska Corp. and make sure everything was meticulously followed and accidents which did happen were taken care of immediately. also making sure animal habitat corridors were maintained and worked properly.
what things people did not forsee then were things like the cheap ass steel they were using for the project and other issues which were later found. that and the shipping routes that were known to be rather difficult. of course which we later saw with the large spill that devistated not only the shore line, but the lives of thousands of fisherman and their families.
my point is that we have a good reason to be weary of projects such as these even when they are done to perfection. you cannot always know what the implications are that we possibly set in place from day one. like you said much of what we remember are usually the bad things that have happened and seeing and knowing what has happened in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of TX and LA are only going to make the enviro people a little pissed.
i have very little knowledge of current practices the new and improved oil industry has, but i certainly hope the risks are worth the endevour that this administration is attempting to take in ANWAR and other areas. i certainly trust you know what you are talking about and that we have come a long way.
every day we have fewer and fewer places that are considered 'wild'. like many of us have said in the past......i am willing to push my disco off and mountain if it comes down to preserving what we have. it just ain't worth it. i would much rather walk my ass up to Denali National Forest and only see and hear what has been there for centuries than have my truck and see tanker trucks and piplines running along the ground. eventually something bad will happen.......just a matter of time. but i guess that is just the price we have to pay right? hmmmmm.
(huggin' and lovin')
ps: i prefer sasafrass trees. |
mark quint (Toiletduck)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 10:25 am: |
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ahhhh
advertless/"commercial-less" good 'ole BBC News over here |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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BBC news - channel 58 (free) - 11.30pm several days/week. Augment that with herald tribune www.iht.com at work and you've got it made. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 04:29 pm: |
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We shouldn't stop drilling until every drop is sucked from the ground (or at least every drop that will sell for more than the cost of sucking that drop out). Once it's gone, then it's off to the electric car races. There's really nothing wrong with a little drilling for petroleum. Sure it's billed as an "ugly" industry and it makes a bit of a mess, but it can be done properly and responsibly. I'm with Jake - boot up the damn ANWR program already. The bunnies & polar bears won't hold it against us. Greenpiece will, but who the hell cares what they think?
Quote:I had the impression that news stations and especially CNN had an obligation to inform the public ( you and me) of whats going on in the world and especially our country.
You'd think this would be the case, but there's no obligation whatsoever. Their only obligation is to make some cash from advertisers for the boys upstairs. |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
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Blue - I look at it this way. Use the cheapo oil from Saudi or wherever, and when it runs out and becomes more expensive in the next 50 years, we can start using our own here. There's always gonna be a great use for the stuff, even with fusion when it comes along. By that time, the electric cars will be advanced enough to drive like a lamborghini |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 04:55 pm: |
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Yeah, but any little pissant dictator (like Hussein) can have us by the balls if we assume that we can use mideast oil until it runs out. It's not like things are even remotely stable over there... People are going to keep producing, purchasing, and using oil powered vehicles until there's no oil left, so let's get on with extracting it and using it all up already. Alternative fuel vehicles will work fine - actually better than this wastefull internal combustion stuff - but they'll only work when companies have some kind of economic incentive to invent & produce (other than our present token government incentives)... |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 04:58 pm: |
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Aren't you guys missing the point? Regardless of your political stripe or environmental stance, don't you think you should be concerned. Here you've got a guy elected under questionable circumstances, breaking both American and international laws all over the place without a second thought. Not to mention he seems to be using the horrible recent events to turn your country into a bit of a police state and he is in a terrible conflict of interest. I read the headlines and can't believe you guys all sit there and keep quiet. From the outside it looks like your futures (well, the worlds future really) are being gambled for private gain of the elite and powerfull. Anyway, I'm sure that should draw enough flak ;-)
Re:CNN etc and the propaganda machine as mentioned above - I think all media is included. The papers aren't any better than the networks. |
Scott MacGregor (Spm)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 05:08 pm: |
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The Economist, BBC, McNeil-Leher, NPR mixed with a little intellegence and media savy and you're fine. Mainly The Economist though. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 05:22 pm: |
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Quote:Here you've got a guy elected under questionable circumstances, breaking both American and international laws all over the place without a second thought. Not to mention he seems to be using the horrible recent events to turn your country into a bit of a police state and he is in a terrible conflict of interest. I read the headlines and can't believe you guys all sit there and keep quiet. From the outside it looks like your futures (well, the worlds future really) are being gambled for private gain of the elite and powerfull.
sorry, just don't quite see it that way.
-Blue, from the inside |
Kennith P. Whichard III (Kennith)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 05:42 pm: |
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GP,
You are correct. I appologise but this will be brief because I accidentally deleted a long and thorough response. DOH!
I would never have the companies running trucks across public lands, nor would I like to see offshore drilling platforms off the coastline any more than they allready are.
My point is that the new technologies out there can hope to make drilling a transparent operation. The goal is to make it safe, both enviornmentally and for the workforce, which will be reduced anyway. Underground, underwater, you may never see a rig again.
Most of the "oil countries" do not regulate drilling adequately. Thus, there is quite a bit of pollution. America has the resources and the infrastructure to support the regulation of drilling on our soil (or under it). If we are the only country capable of drilling responsibly, and the world needs oil...
It won't be too long before we don't need massive quantities of oil to function. These hydrogen engines really do frighten the oil corporations. I wouldn't be opposed to having one myself. Once we reduce automotive oil consumption, the prices will elevate, thus pushing the remaining oil users to find other ways to function effeciently.
I really hope this is not incoherant, and I can't remember how I worded what I was going to say.
PS, believe it or not, I lean more toward being a hugger than not. It drives my friends and associates crazy. Also, hats off to your father. I only wish there were more like him to keep a watchful eye on those who would take advantage of a loose leash.
Cheers,
Kennith |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Monday, June 17, 2002 - 06:12 pm: |
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To get back to the original topic of the Communist News Network:
Whenever I meet people, one of the first things they ask is "Hey Man, is your airplane still killin all of those people? No offense Paul, but I saw on the news......"
Well thanks to CNN, CBS, and all the rest, my airplane has recieved a very bad name. When it comes to flight test and introducing new aircraft, you are going to have problems. But, everyone has amnesia and doesn't rememeber us crashing all of those F-14s, F-16s, F-18's and every helicopter that ever went into military service. If you ever visit any Flight Test Base, you will see every road named after some guy who put his balls on the line to try something new and died trying. You know what, everyone of those guys volunteered. I have put my proverbial money where my mouth is and actually have flown in the V-22 Osprey. In fact, some of the people I have flown with are now dead. Why do I do it? I love aviation and being a art of cutting edge tech.
But CNN, CBS, FOX, and the others all paint the bad picture in an exaggerated fashion. Nothing is ever good because good things do not make ratings and bad ratings does not sell commercial advertisement. It's all crap! Crap Crap Crap Crap!
In the last few years of enduring this exaggerated crap, only one media company has written the truth about my airplane. Believe it or not, it was GQ! That's right, a writer from the Fancy Lad magazine actually went for 2 hour flight on the "deadly" V-22 Osprey. In the next months issue was the first ever truth published about the program and the people who are involved. As for the rest of the media.....They can all blow me!
Paul
Angry and off to the gym thanks to this thread! |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Oh Yeah one more thing....
That chick who started that fire in Colorado. I say sentence her for life doing hard labor in Alaska; digging for oil by hand so I can feed my discovery!
Paul out...... |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
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About oil, I don't think being able to drive your car will be the big issue. How much stuff do you have that's made out of plastic? |
Kim S (Roverine)
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You beat me to it, Niall ... I was about to comment that even our tooth brushes are made using oil. (BTW: I don't agree with you on the presidential issue regarding our country. )
IMO, this whole enviornmental issue has to be looked at in a very comprehensive manner. Too many emotions, misinformatiion, special interests, muking everything up. Personally, I am tired of helping to fund some silly ass royals, (and a few others) while they fly around in their fleets of private jets with gold fixtures, picking up ladies, and buying race horses ... All while inflaming (or should I say trying to hide it from, - what a crock) their own nation/people.
Yeah, I thought it would be pretty obvious at the onset of the Gulf War that they appear to have the world by the 'short and curlys'.
Kim |
greg_sikes
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:50 am: |
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Kim told me about this thread and I have to add my 2 cents on the "news" ...
Here in LA, the local news is littered with celebrity happenings (fund raisers, movie premiers, murder, bashing windshields in with golf clubs, rehabilition clinic breakouts and admittances, etc., ad nausea). After those first 10 minutes of the news, we then get to hear about another 2 drive-by shootings that resulted in 2 dead scumbags and one 2-year old in the wrong place. Of course, we get an in depth analysis of this event when the anchor says, "... and the police suspect this was gang related." At 11:15 we get the world in a minute, saving just enough time for the weather, sports and a new movie premier (Admittedly, I do look forward to the sports )
So it gets really frustrating when we turn to a "news" network, only to see the anchors asking innane questions, fed into their ear pieces from staffers who are probably watching a muted reality TV program.
Ok, off the soapbox ...
Greg |
JPVT
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:21 am: |
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Niall, Paul, Greg........
Thank you! I am elated that I no longer feel alone in my conviction to the " news" Greatly appreciated and Cheers! To bad we don't have enough money to start our own JOURNALISTIC branch and " tell it like it is" Of course, that's what Ted Turner wanted CNN to be but what the hell..money money money. Anyway, enjoyed your post and I am really happy there has been so much intelligent reaction evoked.
I think there is alot of truth to NIALL's post and Paul demonstrates how people with influence will exploit anything for a headline,promotion,$$ etc. As far as Kim and Greg are concerned...I feel your pain! Couldn't agree more... Think as though you were reading a history book. Well there was Merry U.K where the ROYAL family embarrassed themselves, held no office except to spend the country's money and take the place of headlines. They offered nothing not even any kind of consolation to efforts for the needy or the public. But were heralded as the source for many good jokes over a Stout. O and LA california, a modern day BATTLEZONE where living dangerous takes a whole new meaning. The city offered nothing exceptional for value, had higher than normal air pollution, earthquakes, and was terrorized by its own people. One of the first recorded citys in history where the inhabitants killed eachother without reference to religion or race.
LOL
Anyway, I was just saying, it ticks me off that the " news " organizations don't fullfill the image they project...that beng a source for the latest and " most indepth " source for information.
cheers |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:25 am: |
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i once had to testify for the defense of an officer accused of using excessive force to make an arrest. the next day i picked up our local fish wrapper (newspaper for those who dont know) and learned that from the stand and after taking an oath i accused the city of work for of conspiring to cause another officer lie about what he had seen on the day the officer was to have commited the act. the reporter did this by simply placing a comma and adding his own comment outside the quotation marks. i had the pleasure of confronting the author of that article. he explained it to me that what ever was enferred by his printing of what i said is left to the reader. that placing a comma in the particular place, altho changing the truth of my statement was allowable, afterall he is the press and they can print whatever they want.
the moral of this sad tail, believe only half of what you read (or see on TV) and question the half you end up believing to be true.
nialls, our election process worked, the best man for the job won. now we all down here arent by no means perfect (as compared to our friends in the north) but tell us the truth, is there anyother nation you would want for a neighbor?
mike w |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:55 am: |
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Okay, IF.... IF Gore had won, then we were hit on 9/11, what would the response have been?
If Leiberman had been the VP, could we, as a nation, even mention anything regarding Palestinians or Israel, and been looked upon with a straight face?
Think about it....
-L
PS: I'm one who was glad to ask Paul "So, how are the planes doing?" because I, as a former Marine grunt, was one who was thinking "I wish this CH-46 would get to the LZ faster, I don't like fluttering along in the air".... and am glad that folks like him are coming up with better transports... FWIW... |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:37 am: |
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Hey Niall, back the f*** off! If you dont live here, your opinion means sh1t to me. Questionable circumstances??? When Gore's flunkies threw away thousands of military votes?? Why dont you stuff some fish and chips up your ass.
Thank God that Bush was president at the time. People like Rumsfield dont give a crap about offending or hurting the scumbags' feelings like the Clinton govt did. If Gore were pres., we would be on the DEFENSE (like under clinton) waiting to get hit and then cry about it. At least this white house knows they need to be on the OFFENSIVE. The Clinton govt only wussified the FBI and CIA. Agents were afraid to get hit with a civil suit if they so much as looked at a foreigner wrong. The terrorists new that and exploited those POLITICALLY CORRECT mandates that Mr Clinton loved.
As for the news and Bush V.S. Sadam H., where have you been man? I've been reading it here and there for the last 4-6 months. Its no secret. Also, try tuning to FOX news (they really are the best of the cable news channel, less hollywood BS) |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:45 am: |
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can't agree that FOX is really the 'best'. best at what? one sided news? there is no such thing......even for FOX that is a stretch. hell i get most my news off the internet anyhow.
i stick with the The Onion.
http://www.theonion.com/
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Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:53 am: |
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gp, I get most of my news from the web also. FOX stands out among the cable news networks. I prefer drudge report, and several more "neutral" news sites like reuters and various foreign sites. News is always skewed a little, so reading the same story from different perspectives is more enlightening. |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 11:10 am: |
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true. i try and do the same and then at some point i just put on Politically Incorrect and am done with it. MSNBC is a decent one. |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Greg - have you not tried the BBC world news? Tonight for example it will go into the Israeli bus bomb for probably 15 minutes before anything else, save for a few headlines. If you consider this to be news of the utmost importance (which I do), then skip all the other channels and head this way. Once you see it nothing else is comparable, and none of this "coming up......." bulshit either.
Dean |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:06 pm: |
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The only thing good about Fox is the hotties. Come on Man! During the whole 9/11 thing, those short mini skirt wearing ladies showed off all those hours in the gym. I love hotties!!!!!
Leslie, You are right about the Gore thing. We would be hugging and sending over Jesse Jackson for a sing-a-long "Can't we all get along"
Paul
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Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:14 pm: |
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ROTFLMAO!!!!
Jessie Jackson holds the FORMER President's hand when Billy confesses an affair, then Jessie goes back to his mistress' place.... Sheesh.... You're right, they would have begged him to play diplomat, eh? Ugh.....
-L |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:44 pm: |
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Ambassador Jackson?  |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:33 pm: |
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I thought that would get a reaction. |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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yeah there are some yummy mummies on FOX i have to agree. ok......i'm sold. watching FOX from now on. screw this old guy crap on NBC, etc. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:47 pm: |
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how about those "Naked News" networks? Since it's all bullshit news anyway, may as well enjoy.
my wife's brother is dating some hottie who does field reporting for some local San Diego news station. Looking forward to meeting her next month in LA....I wonder if she's a naked news fan?
-Blue
AM radio and Drudge Report, screw the networks |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:19 pm: |
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hey now kingfisher, give nialls a break he is a canadain and they never really got there freedom from the crown yet, still subjects you know. he should make you think a bit. being the hard core right wing conserative that i am this is painful for me to say but the man i voted for from the state of texas is starting to sell out. he is creating all this spending to please those left-wing fellas and its got to be paid for somehowa nd i believe its going to come back down on the backs of the middle class to support everyone else. between wanting to increase the amount of monies to be made avaliable for the minorites to buy houses and spending more on the farmers,,,wtf, where does it all end? we keep allowing for more gubermint. now we are gunning for saddam, damn its time to think for a sec. was it our place to get involved in the Kuwait deal to begin with. and dont get me started on the liar that held the office for eight years. you and i the average american has lost control of our country and nialls is right there comes a point that your actions are wrong no matter how you justify the issue. DISCLAIMER: i do believe that a real war should be brought upon those who are responsible for the actions last september, i dont see that happening anymore.
mike w |
KJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
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Matt Drudge, now there's a source! I'm with gp, The Onion's where it's at!
Karen |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:30 pm: |
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still one of my all time favorite from The Onion!! i am in tears once again. http://www.theonion.com/onion3502/very_special_forces.html |
KJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:39 pm: |
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OMG....HAHAHAHAHA! Did our Paul do any work on that plane?
Funny you should post this because this thread brought to mind the picture someone posted on some other heated thread a while back. And I paraphrase, badly, " Arguing on the internet is like winning at the Special Olympics. Even when you win, you're still retarded."
Karen |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:40 pm: |
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WTF??? ROTFLMBFWAO!!!!!!!
-L |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:46 pm: |
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yeah i remember that pic. here it is.
i was just asking paul about that actually. i like the color and stop sign on it. guess they are really keeping him busy over there.
i just hope leslie and him were not part of those troops.
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M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:50 pm: |
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that is truly funny, thanks GP
mike w |
KJ
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 02:53 pm: |
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AHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA! That's the one!
Hey Leslie, too many letters in your last post...spell it out for me past ROTFLMB.
Karen |
Greg Davis
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 03:44 pm: |
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White Ass Off. Sorry Leslie, just thought I'd save you the trouble. |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:01 pm: |
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You missed the "Fat" stuck in there, too....
And no, MY Marine Corps did NOT resemble THAT "very special forces unit".....
lol...
-L |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:42 pm: |
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King, it's true, I don't live in the US, but being a major world power, your country's actions have significant effect on my life. Plus, I'm down wind of you so if ya'll go around pissing off too many people I'll get screwed too. And I'm not being facetious there, I'm serious.
Bush appears to be so tied in with the big oil and weapons guys that I think he's selling you guys out for personal gain. The recent events are the best thing he could have hoped for. I just can't believe you are not at all concerned that he has repeatedly shown absolutely no respect for your own country's laws.
Anyway, Mike more or less said what I meant so maybe you'll value his opinion a bit. I'm not necessaily trying to change your opinion, but I think you should question what is being done in your name. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 05:10 pm: |
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KJ,
No I didn't work on that plane....I WAS FLYING IT!!!! Hell, it takes a "special" guy to fly the Short Bus special edition aircraft. I even have the matching yellow flight suit. |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 06:04 pm: |
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Niall, before you go rambling, think about what you say. If the U.S. pisses someone off, Canada will pay? What kinda stupid thing is that? Yea, if the US attacks Iraq, Sadam H declares war on Canada! What a laugh. Yea, I can see the U.S.'s enemies blowing up Canada and saying " see what we did to your neighbor? we'll get you like that too!" C'mon man. As far as Bush being tied to oil and weapons, wake up! There has never been a US president who wasnt tied to something. Thats how politics work around here (or anywhere else). I'd rather have Bush tied to oil, than have Clinton/Gore/Hillary tied to the Chinese! Since Bush is tied to big oil, that might not be a bad thing. Have you noticed how, recently, Russia and other former USSR countries are becoming possible oil supplies? Bush and his administration realize the Arabs arent a reliable source. Did you wonder why OPEC tried to raise prices but they didnt hold for very long? It's because Russia is underselling them (thanks to the Bush-Putin meeting in Texas). Being tied to oil might not be all too bad. I'm sorry if I came off a little strong earlier, sometimes my blood gets boiling. |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 06:34 pm: |
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Kingfish, come on. My point was if, godforbid, some eastern seaboard US city gets chemical bombed or some other horrible thing, it's all going to float on over and land in my backyard, just like most of your air pollution. Do you think Chernobyl only affected those living nearby? Terrorist attacks on the US pose a real and significant risk to me, and I don't like that. Not to mention all my friends and family who live south of the border. Try to look at the big picture rather than taking such a strong partisan view of my comments. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I have some very valid points, whether you agree with them or not. You don't have to agree with me but you should be able to see where I'm coming from.
Leslie, your points about Lieberman are very valid too. In fact, a friend and I were discussing that possibility over the weekend. Neither scenario is particularly appealing.
Back to the original topic, I think Blue has it. It's all about the Naked News ;-) |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 08:26 pm: |
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You Liberal Pacifists crack me up, you need to remember all you protest and then hide behind what your against.
CNN and Fox gives you the news that you like to hear not what you need to be told. Hard core news would not pay enough to keep them in paper clips.
When world events turn to shit again the crap Rupert and Ted are selling will look pretty good.
Wait until you have to get searched for explosives and bombs to attend any public function or enter a Shopping Mall.
Another pleasant thought or our Kids getting killed by 5th grade suicide bombers at school. Or a chilling reality small tactical nuke set off, go see "The Sum of all Fears" that should wake you up if 9/11 didn't give you the wakeup needed.
Niall, I like the air pollution thing your driving a ? oh its ok for you to pollute but shame on us Americans for global warming. I remember that next time I see a Canadian plate spewing out hydrocarbons. |
JMcD
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:24 pm: |
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Garrett, being a former 'Special Forces' member (7th group) I am certain that if I wasn't laughing so hard I would need to hunt you down and kill you for that disturbing link. C-130 Short bus indeed! Love the Onion.
JMcD |
JMcD
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:30 pm: |
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As far as Niall's comments, I respect your opinion, no matter how absurd it may be. Like it or not, were it not for The US Armed Forces this world would be up shit creek without a paddle. Sure, we make mistakes but at the end of the day the United States takes care of business when business needs taken care of. FACT. Not opinion.
JMcD |
Jake Hartley (Jake)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:41 pm: |
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Roger that on the US Armed Forces taking care of business, JMcD! USASOC all the way!
96th CA BN
numerous PSYOP units
82nd ABN |
JMcD
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:45 pm: |
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Yeah, I'm down with the 82nd. Recon scout, 1/505. General Gavins Battalion.
All The Way |
JMcD
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 09:47 pm: |
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Jake, been down to the JFK building? SWC? |
greg_sikes
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 12:02 am: |
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Dean,
Will have to give the BBC a go. BTW ... I completely forgot to mention "coming up next" in my rant.
Greg |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 08:29 pm: |
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LOL ;-) Hey annon, if you have the balls to come back and post your name instead of being such a pussy and posting as annon, I'll explain to you where you're mistaken. Bitch.
JMcD, I understand where you're coming from. I'm not sure I agree though. Sometimes I think business is taken care of when it doesn't need to be. Anyway, we're not going to change each others minds here. Rover on!! |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 09:14 pm: |
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Niall,
You can explain yourself you threw it out there "it's all going to float on over and land in my backyard, just like most of your air pollution"
No need for names little man |
JMcD
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 09:58 pm: |
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You know Niall, as much as I hate to admit it, I see your (most recent)point. It is very hard to know when business needs taken care of.
I think we would all agree that when Germany and Japan were slaughtering millions 'bout 50 years ago, Business REALLY needed taken care of....And we did, My Grandfathers(both) and 4 great Uncles. As did your country, If history is accurate.
How about Korea? Probably, that mess exists today.
Vietnam? Hard to tell, seemed like it at the time, but times were different then.
The Cold War? Who can remember the threat of Nuclear Holocaust? I can, pretty clearly. We took care of that too. As strange as it seems, The United States literally drove the Soviet Union into financial ruin as a result of the arms race. Thus the fall of communism. The world is certainly a better place because of that. Ask those folks in the Old East Germany.
Central America? I was there, save that story for another Day.
Desert Storm? There too.. A foreign Army ruled by the worst dictator since Stalin invaded a Sovereign Nation (Kuwait) of which we were friends and trade partners. We had to take care of that Business. And we did. You must take care of your friends, or you will have none. Ask England. They were in a world of hurt some 50 years ago, and we stood up for them, just as we would stand up for Canada if You needed us.
OK,OK, before I get carried away, Your point is well taken, however Hindsight is 20/20. No Man or Country ever knows what is the 'right' thing to do. Times change, and things always look different thru the pages of a history book.
However remember this, It is far more difficult to act and be held accountable for your actions than to Judge others for the actions you were unprepared to take.
Nothing personal Niall, its just I have seen too much to ever believe the world is Black and White.
JMcD..............(getting off my soapbox) |
a different edh
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 10:12 pm: |
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Niall,
I feel your pain , my brother . There are far more voices on the right than the left in here . Am I the only person on this board that thinks G Dubya is a complete moron . How many other YALE graduates say "NUCULER" . The look on the idiots face when he was first told of the 9/11 attacks pretty much says it all . The right guy for the job, please . He does what he's told , he can not even formulate a coherent sentence , or is it that the "folksy " down home style of butchering the English language .Just one of the "good ole boys " while he sticks it in our holes . Anyone from Texas should be ashamed . I am ashamed to be from the same state that he was given a "gentlemans" college degree from . Ok my rant is over . Flame away .
ps Lieberman sucks . Another self righteous bastard who only acts to further his own political ambitions . But Jesse does get the shit done . I'd have his "love" child , ok that last part is kinda gay . |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 12:08 am: |
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JMcD
Thats a powerfull Quote, " However remember this, It is far more difficult to act and be held accountable for your actions than to Judge others for the actions you were unprepared to take.
Are you retired or still active
Retired USN 1996 |
JMcD
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 07:06 am: |
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Thanks Dee, it just came to me. Some things I feel strongly about.
My status is Oh so retired...US Army.
JMcD |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 12:38 pm: |
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It feels to to be on the other side of the fence looking in... |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 04:42 pm: |
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JMcD, well said. But I still disagree with you ;-)
Anyway, as I said above, we're not going to change each other's minds here. We can argue this over a camp fire some time.
edh, liked your post too.
Anyway, my soapbox is about to collapse so I'm gettin' off. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 05:37 pm: |
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Dont fall gettinng down and blame us Yanks... |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 07:03 pm: |
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Does anyone smell fish? |
Jake Hartley (Jake)
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 07:25 pm: |
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JMcD:
Yeah I have been to SWC..Psyop school, Civil Affairs school. Love that place, loved working with you beanie boys...
Bosnia, Somalia, Gulf War
retired in '99...
all the way |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 08:02 pm: |
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No just cheese |
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