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James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Trip will be on the Alpine Loop and some off-shoot trails. New Trxus 235/85-16 tires and will be carrying the tire repair kit from EE. As it is a RR, not much room in the rear so would like to remove current spare. Roof rack is also pretty full. Am thinking about not taking a spare. Will be with 2 other LRs, one a D90 that has a spare the same diameter as the RR sneakers.
What do you think??
Jaime
 

p m
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i think no
especially when you consider leaving pavement

peter
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thnx Peter. Kinda my gut feeling also, yet, with new tires and the repair kit wondered what others felt. Sure could use the room!
Jaime
 

Gil Stevens (Gil)
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn.. no way dont do it. Murphys law states if you have no spare you will get a flat. what happens when the D90 guy gets a flat first, he uses his spare.. and then not only do you get a flat, but your tire explodes into rubber schrapnel. im not familiar with the ol "fix-o-flat" kit, but I would guess it is relatively limited. do either of the other rigs have stash space for your spare?
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

well i cant say don' do it unless your truck being stranded or limping along on the rim won't ruin your trip.

i'd personally feel uncomfortable, but if you are sure the other guys will fit your truck then maybe go ahead. live life on the edge... the thrill of being stranded.

it's always the trips that go wrong in a bad that are the most memorable 15 years later.


rd
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, if you ain't living on the edge you're taking up too much room! Ok, ok, just getting some feedback as it seemed like a possible idea. Guess I'll just have to get rid of the ac unit and generator for the tent and make room for the that spare deal.
Jaime
 

hendrik
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

:) You could take only the tire with you (gives space to put all the socks into it).
In case of a flat you can learn to change it (before having started). Two possibilities then: Carry on tubeless (pretty hard to mount the new tire then unless you have a big compressor/air tank; or: with the tire loosely mounted on the rim you drop a little fuel into the tire and let it explode by a spark - the russian way).
Second: carrying a tube - in my opinion a acceptable "emergency repair".
 

gp (Garrett)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"it's always the trips that go wrong in a bad that are the most memorable 15 years later."

yeah sure. the Donner Party never got to tell stories about their trip 15 years later.

:)
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Eeeek! My impression of the Alpine Loop is a walk in the park type of trip. Now I have to worry about getting eaten by the other trip members. Guess with the fire situation, it would be a good ole barbeque. Better hide the dogs.
Jaime
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

James,
I live in CO and have run the Alpine Loop. Not too tough of a trip. However I also run Trxus 235/85/16 on my Rangie, and let me tell you I have had 3 flats in the last year. 4 if you count the tire that can't hold air very well right now. I would never leave home without my spare. I also carry the tire repair kit and have used it many times. It won't always stop the leak. Your other alternative is if you are travelling with someone else who carries a 235/85/16 spare. It's not perfect but it will get you down the mountain.

BTW, I will be selling my used Trxus in about 2 months in leau of getting BFG Mudders. You live and learn!

Larry
 

Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

if space is really that important, build a custom rear bumper to with a swing out spare tire carrier...never go with out a spare....bad idea.
my .02

Will
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

bad idea. take TWO spares, better idea.
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thx. all for the information. The spare will be back on board.

Larry, you're scaring me already about the Trxus selection. There is a guy in town with a Pinz and 255/85-16 Trxus and has had no problems. Have you heard of any others having the same problems as you???
Jaime
 

Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ive been interested in some 33 inch trxus...how have they been working out for everybody? someone told me they wore out very quickley on road....something about the rubber being softer than a pencil eraser lol....is there any truth behind that?
Thanks,
will
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Will,
The guy with the Pinz has about 30k on them and they look like another 10k before needing replacement. I like the siping and tread pattern. However, after what Larry posted above, I'm now not too sure. I haven't bought them yet, although I'm scheduled to have them mounted tomorrow.
Jaime
 

Will Roeder (Will_Roeder)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ok cool...im lookin at a 285 75 in that tire...anyone know how wide the 285 is (in inches) i know its about 33 inches tall....
Thanks
will
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RXM-02R
LT285/75R16
10 = ply
19/32 = tread depth
8.3 = tread width
32.7 = od
11.2
8x16 = rec rim
80 = max infation

Jaime
 

Gil Stevens (Gil)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

im with you blue.. i carry 2 spares. I may look stupid, but if you ever had 2 flats on one trip, you would carry 2 as well.
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

while 2 probably is the safest concept, hopefully the tire repair kit will keep me going with the 1 you all have convinced me to carry. The back of a RR really is small compared to even a Disco and there is some stuff that has to go along. Unfortunately with the 2 dogs, lowering or removing the rear seat is not an option.
Jaime
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i take two spares and a really buff super strong midget with roller skates.

jaime, you could bolt one to the front bumper in true dunbar style..

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rob, we don't want to hear about your late night fantasies on this board!
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol!! like the midget idea - that could fit in the back with the dogs and certainly add some entertainment value.

we already look enough like the clampets from OK heading out to stake our claim so a midget on the front wouldn't upset the aesthetics any. besides with the flock of birds on the rack, gas mileage will probably be like single digits. if the arms were flapping hard enough, midget could improve things.

course could also just bring back a mexican for the same effect on my next trip down there.

hey rob, looks like we'll get the same house as last time over Labor Day @ 7-Springs. let u know.

Jaime
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Friday, June 28, 2002 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well I am little rough on my tires. But hey, they are off-road tires. Mine also haven't worn very well. I bought them last April (year ago) and they are already getting worn to the point where traction off-road will be compromised soon if they are not replaced. Keep in mind that they have plenty of "Street Tread" left, but this just won't cut it off-road. Of all the reasons I will get stuck, bald tires is not one of them.

I used to own BFG Mud-Terrains. Great tire, much stronger sidewall and tread. I am going to go back to old faithful in August. For the money the TRxUs is a good tire, but it is not a good competitor to BFG Mud-Terrains like Interco intended.

Just my thoughts and experience.

Larry
 

Zinhead
Posted on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So you want to ditch the spare so you can carry your two dogs. Something is definately wrong with those priorities.

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