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niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 05:26 pm: | 
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So, what do you think? I've been looking for a Disco but have a chance to pick up a '96 4.6 HSE with 130k kms for about what I'd pay for a Disco. How different and how similar are they? I know nothing about the new(old) Range Rovers. All I know is they have a sweet interior ;-) Will they be as easy to work on or are they significantly more complex than the Disco? |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 05:36 pm: |
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they are very different.. the hse is alot more complex, about the only way they are similar is that you should have the same amount of problems with either one... |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:16 pm: |
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;-) Kinda figured that. My main concern is parts prices. I should be able to afford to maintain a Disco 1 doing all the work myself and buying lots of cheap aftermarket parts from England ;-) But, are the RR parts as more expensive (nice grammer, eh?) as I fear they are? It's wierd, I had a series Rover but didn't suffer from all the paranoia(sp?) about Discos and RR Classics that other series truck guys have, but I am a bit nervous of the RR 4.6HSE. That interior is hard to forget though ;-)
The Disco has a lot of electric, no doubt, but it seems to be mechanical where it counts. Aside from the EFI, you can probably bodge to get home. The new(old) RR though seems much more automated. Like, what's up with the H-shift gate? Is it still the ZF trannny (hehehe) and whatever xfer box like the Disco has or is it totally different? Could the truck be lifted by putting spacers under the air springs? And the air springs seemt o be much more reliable than those found on the later Classics, right? |
JB
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:18 pm: |
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96 4.6 HSE is roomier, fancier and has air susupension which causes problems for some. lots of electrics which require very smart mechanic or expensive dealer mechanic if $hit happens- but man is it a nice ride..
96 Disco - some have carbon buildup / valve issues . "seems" smaller inside and just not as plush and fancy. I think the engine still used a distributor for this year whereas the 96 HSE rangie uses a more advanced distributorless system.
post this question on www.roversnorth.com for even more opinions and on the discovery side too.
On road I would take the rangie anyday, off road I'd take the Disco. |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:57 pm: |
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damn.. id take the hse on OR off-road any day. the •••••• (haha) and tbox are different. the hse uses a viscous coupling.. very different, the air suspension can always be converted to coils to avoid the headache there. and yes, the "evolved" air suspension is much different than that of the classics. ive been driving a 95 lwb, and the damn thing bounces up and down while im at stoplights, i feel like im in a 64 imapla with alot of metalflake paint.. the 4.0s (or 4.6s) sure as hell dont do that. roversnorth board?? yikes.. |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:16 pm: |
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Niall,
Matters what you want to use it for and how much you plan on working on it yourself.
I went through the same debate before I recently picked up a 97 Disco (praying it makes it cross country, which is should).
What it came down to for me is how much repair I can do myself. I also have a 89 RR that I'm getting rid of but I really liked being able to get under it and understand most of it. That and the engine compartment. I figured if more things broke on the Disco I could fix them myself if I had the time, or at least they were cheaper to fix than the HSE.
That air ride is awfully aluring when it's working fine and that almost snagged me. And figuring I'll be driving on road 90% of the time or more it looked like it would suit. But just look at the cost of repair for similar items and availablity of parts (supply and demand) and the disco is better since it can steal from earlier RRs, where as you have a more limited pool with the HSE.
If I had the disposable income I probably would have gone with the HSE. My wife, who's short, would have liked the curb lowering feature too. But alas I went with the Disco. The CDL was also important to me.
pwc |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:04 pm: |
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Peter, that's all pretty much what I was thinking. All work that didn't require very special tools will be done by me. I have less than no money so hiring a pro is out of the question. I also read that the RR is a monocoque body on a frame. Do they really mean monocoque or do they mean like the Disco and RRC? How hard would it be to make sliders and bumpers for a 4.6? I'm not too worried about the air suspension. I'd keep it till it crapped and then switch to coils. I think that, since realistically, I can't even afford to run a diesel Rabbit, I'd be wise to go with the Disco. Of course, maybe I should buy the RR and sell is at a profit to pay for some goodies for the Disco ;-) The real attraction to the RR is that no one around here has one. There are probably less than 8 in the whole province and I have never seen one off-road. |
Rhett Krulla (Retro78)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:39 am: |
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Niall,
I bought my '95 RR 4.0 3 months ago and am in total love with it. My roommate has a 96' Disco as well so it is easy for me to compare the 2. I took the 4.0 off road for the first time 2 weeks ago and it handled everything with ease. My roomate got into some trouble here and there but I was king of the mud. As for repairs go I bought mine with a faulty blend motor which I had the Dealer fix for free and have had over 5k trouble free miles with it. My roomate on the other hand has had trouble with his drivers side window coming off track and had to replace the rear Flange seal due to leaking. Mostly minor problems but they do add up. In either case both will cost more money to fix when something breaks. Good Luck! |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
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Thanks Rhett. I'm going to look at the HSE tomorrow although to be honest, I'm leaning pretty heavily towards a disco at the moment. |
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