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Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:30 pm: | 
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so after reviewing some pics on this range rover tread, i guess some of you are talking about lack of articulation based on this pic?
http://auto123.sympatico.ca/ArtImages/2338/inline_06.jpg |
Greg Davis
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:40 pm: |
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Yep, tht's the pict. However, I have seen some other photos where the Rangie's flex was quite impressive! Why the questions Ho? What are you schemeing???  |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:46 pm: |
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well, just wanted to exercise the brain... 
consider this pic:
http://www.discoweb.org/cwalker/lc2.jpg
about same situation? |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm: |
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the truck flexes well.. its no superduper slinky cone droppin disco flex but it flexes nonetheless. that pic is somewhat misleading. whats cool is that the air springs are cross-valved so in an articualtion situation when the left front wheel drops, it takes the air from the right front causing the same basic effect as you would see from a live axle. same for the rear. but between the ETC and the torsen diff you dont really need any flex.. |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:58 pm: |
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Good point Ho. But I have yet to see an IFS/IRS vehicle with good articulation other than the ocasional rock buggy. Until I can see it for myself on the trail are there any pictures of the new Rangie flexing? |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:01 pm: |
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how about this?
http://www.discoweb.org/hollister5/29.jpg |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:26 pm: |
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http://www.rangerovers.net/rriiioffrmed.JPG |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:39 pm: |
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damn ho.. you are really on a mission.. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:40 pm: |
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well, it's only articulation |
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:18 pm: |
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Class, repeat after me...
"Articulation is not everything"...lol
-glenn |
Kyle
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:20 pm: |
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Well all I got to say is. You cruising up the PCH in that new Rangie and articulation is the furthest thing from your damn mind....
Kyle |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:42 pm: |
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lol. good point.. hey ho, if you want one all i need a $1000 deposit.. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:52 pm: |
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seriously here,
take a look at this disco with 3 link front, and tell me what you think:
http://www.discoweb.org/jonchristensen/P0001848.jpg |
Curtis N (Curtis)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:14 pm: |
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I think it looks good.
I also think that to judge the Rangie based on that first shot is not quite fair. The front end has virtually no weight on it so: no...there would be no articulation whether IS or solid axle.
I have no idea whether the Rangie articulates well or not. I do keep hearing good reports from those who have driven them.
Curtis |
chu
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:41 pm: |
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Yeah, based on this pic, I'm running IFS/IRS also:
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/lefthandcanyon/bmhill.jpg
That new rangie does live up to what it promises though. Promises to be the classiest SUV out there, and I'd say it looks to do that. Would like to actually drive one though. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 06:01 pm: |
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that's an AZ Rover, Ho.... |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 06:06 pm: |
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yeah, thats' jon, nice flex. |
Willie Joubert (Willie)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 07:00 pm: |
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Observe this
http://www.rangerover.landrover.com/html/events/events_engstory_stills.jsp?country=GB&language=EN&charset=ISO-8859-1¤cy=GBP&countryGroup=A&rem=0,http://www.rangerover.landrover.com/html/events/events_engstory_stills.jsp?country=GB&language=EN&charset=ISO-8859-1¤cy=GBP&countryGroup=A&rem=0 |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 07:08 pm: |
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LOL
i am still drooling. |
Dee
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 08:46 pm: |
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I don't know but that new RR would look more at home in the Garment District in LA than a Yellow XD with a bed frame bumper does.... |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:02 pm: |
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Door #1...
http://www.rangerovers.net/rriiioffrmed.JPG
or Door #2... (asside from the bumper and tires the rest is stock including suspension at the time that photo was taken)
http://www.discoweb.org/aloliveira/disco0062.jpg |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:13 am: |
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http://www.discoweb.org/jonchristensen/P0001819.jpg
it's lifting a tire there. so do you agree that in this part of the trail, this 3 linked disco and the new range rover could be as capable? |
Curtis N (Curtis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:27 am: |
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most likely...
What is your point, Ho? I'm pretty dense right now and not getting it...
Are you having RR envy? |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:34 am: |
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oh i got RR envy big time. |
Curtis N (Curtis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:02 am: |
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Just Do It!
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Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:13 am: |
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i would just do it. but cmon, realistically ain't happening. |
Greg Davis
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 10:11 am: |
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C'mon Ho. Company car, tax write-off. Like Curtis said, "Just Do It". Afterall, you only go around once, so go in style! |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:59 am: |
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I'm thinking that first rock dent on the side of that 72,000 Range Rover would hurt a little. But, since Ho is cyber wheeling guess he doesn't have to worry about that. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:21 pm: |
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Quote:http://www.discoweb.org/jonchristensen/P0001819.jpg
it's lifting a tire there. so do you agree that in this part of the trail, this 3 linked disco and the new range rover could be as capable?
air under a tire, whether it's a centimeter or a meter, still ain't giving you no traction. The RR is more capable than the 3-linked Disco in that situation due to it's more advanced 4WD system that will make the most of available traction (however, front & rear lockers on the Disco could conceivably change things). |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:26 pm: |
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No wheeling there the new RR will be the ultimate Pimp Daddy Ride, move over Caddy there a new ride in town.
How big of a rim can you stuff in there. Need to get those nice big ones from Allied that look like its spinning while its stoped...
Poor LR, |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:34 pm: |
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blew done wrote:
air under a tire, whether it's a centimeter or a meter, still ain't giving you no traction
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still *aint* giving you *no* traction.. so that means it is giving traction, no? |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:50 pm: |
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shuddup Rub, I was dumbing-down my speech so that you could follow.
besides, "ain't" is not a word, so you should have ignored it, thus reading "...still giving you no traction..." |
keeping score
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:39 pm: |
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one point for blue
-10 for Rob for trying to be slick and falling on his face. |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:21 pm: |
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Must be all those coins he was trying to fit up his nose has effected his brain. Or maybe those weren't coins and maybe that wasn't his nose.. |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:26 pm: |
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I'm sure it would do just fine on the trails around here.. I would change the tires though. But, for that money I would get a Disco 2 and a nice little car. Hell, would probably still have money left over to buy some lockers and springs for the new disco. It doesn't articulate enough for 72,000 grand or whatever they are going for... |
Curtis N (Curtis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:56 pm: |
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Ho,
I know what you mean...$72K...ouch. It's not like it is not worth it, but I think I'll have to wait to get a depreciated used one on a few years.
Curtis |
Ron L
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:47 pm: |
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Ho would go for it if the cup holder would support a bottle of Patron |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:50 pm: |
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-1000 for the pussy that didn't use his name.
blow, you could dumb shit down so low for me that you would be high.
rd |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:02 pm: |
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patron? LOL
man, i'd go for it if i could afford. plain and simple. |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:05 pm: |
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But, then what would become of the Chickidy? |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:10 pm: |
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huh? |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:17 pm: |
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exactly |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:22 pm: |
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otay |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:27 pm: |
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Okay, so who's been bogartin the weed and not passin the bowl. There some other people that would like a hit of whatever you two are smoking |
another option
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:30 pm: |
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the new 2003 G 500 has has a drivetrain system "advancement" and still has the 3 differential lockers. And at the same price it seems to me a "better value"...Brake Assist System
ESP stability control, and 4 ETC all part of the 2003 G.
to bad the MB 400 CDI won't be available in the states...
but yet it is still a box on wheels... |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:31 pm: |
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Blue, you been eating Peyote again? |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:34 pm: |
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Ya, that G500 is nice but, it is UGLY.. Might look alright lifted with some 33s though. Can you even get longer springs and shocks for that thing? |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:34 pm: |
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no eric, we're high on jesus.
rd |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:39 pm: |
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amen brother |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:40 pm: |
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um, ya, sure you are. |
another option
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:44 pm: |
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yes there are 19 different spring combinations you can get from the factory (all orginal) as well as gears all the way to 6.19..
oh the new 2003 G 500 has voice command for many of the electronics..
here is a link
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/cars/g-class/default.htm
i think you can fit 35's under the G without any modifications to the suspension or body.. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:47 pm: |
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Prepare yourself, you know it's a must
Gotta have a friend named Jesus
So you know that when you die
It's gonna recommend you to the Spirit in the sky
i think i saw the spirit in the sky last night....or was that a naked cowgirl floatin across my ceiling? |
Kyle
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 05:56 pm: |
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Hmmm , since when did articulation become more important then actually making it through ? LOL It scares me , no , really , it does,,,,,.........
Kyle |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 06:39 pm: |
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I'm just lonesome L.A. cowboy
Hanging out, and hanging on
To your window ledge, callin' your name
From midnight until dawn
I been smoking dope, snorting coke
Trying to write a song
Forgettin' everything I know
Till the next line comes along
Forgetting everything I know
Till the next line comes along
rd
while we're singing... |
Andy N
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:20 pm: |
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Now that's what I call articulation.........!! |
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:52 pm: |
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Dang Rob, since you are so musically talented, I thought you might enjoy seeing the words to a song I heard on the way home tonight. Just for you buddy...remember, these are real lyrics to a real song...
"18 WHEELS OF LOVE"
Mama ran off with a trucker
Mama ran off with a trucker
Mama ran off with a trucker
Peterbilt Peterbilt
He is making her give life another stab
They can see the world from way up in the cab
Mama ran off with a trucker...........
Peterbilt Peterbilt
She can quit her job and be his little bride
He can get a local route and stay home by her side
She can fix him roast beast and sweet potato pie
He can eat a lot of it cuz he’s a big ole guy
They got married in Dollywood
(by a Porter Waggoner lookalike)
18 Wheels of Love |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:06 am: |
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man, dont' even start with that ugly ass G500. LOL
not only that, there's no love in G ownership. |
another option
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:43 pm: |
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i love my G...no problems with an average of 3500 miles per month..
also there was some discusion over just what you mention on the D-90 site..Q who used to drive a defender now a has a G loves it..also i know David Gomes who used to have a Defender and who traded his 1998 disco straight up for a 1980 G wagen certainly loves his G and is his daily driver..
ho you've never owned a G so i really doubt you are the one to explain to others about "there's no love in G ownership"...
you have a really nice disco XD with some worthwhile upgrades..did your truck by chance come from Flagstaff Arizona ever...
how about less mechanical problems..thats something to love.. |
Sus (Susannah)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:20 pm: |
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I wish people would own up to posting and write their names....it's really obnoxious. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:21 pm: |
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speaking of "no love there"... talk to Q and ask him about love.
my XD came from OR area.
in all seriousness, i am sure the G is a great machine and you love it to death. but damn, dont' compare it to the new range rover as another option. cuz, that thing is ugly. LOL |
chu y
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:41 pm: |
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Well, let's face it. For 70+k, it better be more than functionality we're getting. I think you can get plenty of functionality/'capability' for a LOT less.
What we do want from 70+k is the intangibles. Is it smooooooth? Can I finally get some?
I'm sure those things are worth a few bucks, eh?
chu |
eric
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:02 pm: |
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i certainly think the 2002 is another option and the 2003 may be a better option with all the new advancements in it.
if the 400 CDI comes over, (The 270 is already here in the sprinter vans) then RR will certainly have a run for the money..that engine is awesome...V8 Twin Turbo Direct Injection
i got a chance to look at the new RR in person the other day...great improvement on quality of build it looks like. and i will agree the interior is pretty awesome, one could probably move in there...the side vertical fins kinda look funny to me, looks like shark gills or something, can't really comment on the ugly arguement with the G or any other truck..some think toyotas are ugly, some think rovers are, etc etc the list goes on, all personal preference, as long as the person driving it likes it (for whatever reason) thats all that really matters doesn't it...
with the price tag being the same one could safely guess that those people who can afford the 80k for a truck would look at both as options...obviously not an option for you ho because you think its ugly, but certainly the G was an an option for me when compared to the RR, (actually it was a replacement) and it certianly was an option/replacement for many of the current G wagen owners...
its clearly an option if your desision is based upon new features and technology such as Electronic Traction Control...
ho i asked about you disco because there was a guy in AZ jodi (i think) that had an xd with the same mods as you and sold it because he was "disquested" (his words) with the quality and bought a toyota land cruiser..he uses the 4x4 for work-(out door photography and 4x4 tours in Northern Arizona) haven't talked with him in years so don't know how happy he is/isn't with the cruiser but his disco was pretty sweet until the dash board peeled off. i thought he sold it to somebody in minn then it went to somebody else after that.. do you know what XD i'm talking about? not really important..
oh sus the name is eric..
just thought it was obvious |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:47 pm: |
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There are a couple Eric's around and if you don't use your name it's not obvious.
Anyway, I like the G500 but, I do think it is ugly. I like the front but, the back of the thing just looks like a big box. But, everybody has their own opinion on what looks good and what doesn't. It is a nice truck though if you have the money. I however, do not. Nor do I have enough money for the new Range Rover. Even if I did though I wouldn't buy either of them. I already have a perfectly good discovery. I don't care about "Status quo".. I would probably just get a Buell and a nice little convertable car that has some ponies and can take some turns for fun.
As for articulation on the new Range Rover.. I'm sure it will articulate just fine for when it hits the curb getting parked out front of the local starbucks cause, almost none of the people buying them are ever going to even take it down a gravel road. |
Michel Findlay (Michel)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:47 pm: |
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Since we are talking "if i had the money", If I was willing to part witht dough on the new RR, it would be for doing what the disco does now, especially the long trips. So articulation, traction, off road feel and handling, torque would be very important. I would love to see how the new interlinked air suspension rivals the solid axles. If Im gonna dream, at least it will be a wet one, with deep mud holes.
Michel |
Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:54 pm: |
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"If Im gonna dream, at least it will be a wet one, with deep mud holes."
Nicely said Michel... LMAO... Can I use that as a quote before you get it patented?
-glenn |
Michel Findlay (Michel)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 05:20 pm: |
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Feel free just don't sell it and make enough money to buy a new RR, that would hurt :-)
Michel |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 05:32 pm: |
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I like the look of the G. Just about as ugly as the Disco and the Defender |
eric j
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 06:16 pm: |
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thats kinda of how i think of it blue..
btw blue 1 point for you (from another post) |
Camille (Gwagenbabe)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:35 pm: |
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I love my G Wagens! Even if they are kinda ugly yet stylish breadboxes on wheels, they're pretty damn stable breadboxes Yes you can fit 35's on a stock G, all you have to do is trim it a bit... I know you can fit up to 33's without having to re-gear the G, cuz that's what I'm planning to put on mine now...
*G Wagen Owner 4 Life
http://members.aol.com/GWagenBabe |
Greg Bright (Gregd2)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
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Kyle, Ho, Ax,
Can you please start up a G-Wagon-Web.org? I just don't get enough of them in the General Section on Disco-Web (as in LAND ROVER) I just wish Eric would talk more about fuc*in' shitty ass G-wagons! They are great! Matter of fact, I'm selling my POS Discovery today and going out and buying an 80 thousand dollar pimp mobile!
I really didn't care about the new Range Rover this thread was talking about anyways, I just need to hear Eric's opinion of the G-Wagon over and over again! Thank you Eric for opening my eyes!
Greg Bright
PS- use your name instead of "another option" |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:25 pm: |
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LOL....
BTW, Greg....
I noticed you were in Louisville.... are you from there? Or are you from further east? I was just wondering if we might be distant kin or not....
-L |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:30 pm: |
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what i tell ya about no love. |
Greg Bright (Gregd2)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:38 pm: |
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Hey Leslie,
I've lived here most of my life. It's funny, because the first time I saw you post, I thought my Grandfather was posting on D-Web (or should I say G-Web?) My Grandfather's name is also Leslie Bright. Where are you from? It's definately possible we're distant kin, I do live in Kentucky, I think everybody's related here.
Greg |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:49 pm: |
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I'm from Kingsport TN, still live in the vicinity... my son, me, my dad, and my grandpa are all Leslie Bright.... (HMMM...... maybe my grandpa got around a bit more than I thought! lol....)
My family's been in the area of the TN-VA line since 1800, some branches of it before that even.
Where is your grandfather from? Is he from there in Louisville, or does he happen to be from closer to Harlan and Pikeville? (I know that several of my grandfather's relatives are in that area)....
-L |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 04:44 pm: |
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Which Eric? |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 06:41 pm: |
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hey now there's a 2002 G500 for sale at Land Rover Scottsdale. Right next to a 1993 D110, new Range Rovers, and a Lincoln Navigator. Hmmmm, now who's the target market for that place? |
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