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Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:51 pm: | 
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Hey, someone that went to the Rover Rendez-vous please give a report on that god awful H2 in the gallery. |
anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:54 pm: |
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I saw one today and they are ugly I like the the hummers alot better. H2 are really tall and seem a bit narrow when you look at them. well to me anyway. and they are straight axles too. I guess to give more room on the interior. Also have you seen the explorers those are ugly the new ones they say they are rugged they look like they could handles a gravel road only. |
Mel A. (Krawlrovr)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:03 pm: |
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My friend's dad bought a H2 yesterday. From the outside, it looked pretty good...not as bad as I thought. But if you look under it, the skid plates are made of like 1/16" steel and the frame is straight off a Tahoe. Also, it seemed like the frame was in like 2 or 3 different pieces welded together. He took me for a ride in it. Basically, it rode like my Disco. When you hit the gas you can really hear the thing roar, but you're going nowhere fast. I also noticed that it had absolutely no engine braking. Also you have a 35-inch spare tire in the trunk, much like the Grand Cherokee, but a lot worse. The seats were comfy (read: Cadillac Escalade). The headlights didn't light the road for shit, and the car felt tippier around the corners than my Disco, but it’s a truck. I didn't get to see it off-road, but it seems like it will do okay. Bottom line: it's more of a ego booster than a rock crawler. Almost to the point of compensation  But hey, if it floats your boat, go for it. For 50K I'd go for something else. |
MTB
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:29 am: |
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Mel What you saw with the frame is correct. They have 3 parts to the frame 1 Tahoe 2 Suberban 3 3/4HD truck or the 1ton. If my pea brain remembers correctly front is Tahoe rear is suberban and the center is HD truck.
Like Carter I would like to know how it did. |
Dave
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:07 am: |
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I saw one on the highway here in Boston on Friday. The thing was ugly as hell. Plastic and chrome everywhere. Looked like a twinkie on wheels.
I wonder if it had the creme filling? |
pwp
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:08 am: |
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Hey lets at least give the guy credit for taking it off road into some decent terrain. I can't bare to imagine how many of these I'm going to see in the Chicagoland area, built to the hilt trying to look all bad @@s with light bars winches roofracks , to occasionaly cross over some pebbles left on the street from someone repaving a driveway !
I think my sons tricycle has better articulation then that thing.
Peter |
Eric Pena (Evalp)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:08 am: |
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Am I the only person that thinks it looks like a frickin Jeep Cherokee. What a peice of shit. I thought the H1 was a waste of $$ but this takes the cake.  |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:07 am: |
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Good grief.
OK, I know magazines have a lot of BS, but the H2 ran plenty of trails in Moab stock w/out body damage as reported by Four Wheeler magazine. Sure, there is the typical advertising BS that may influence that, but what the heck?
A 72K Range Rover is an even more amusing thing if you take away the passion you hold about rovers.
Tom |
Eric Pena (Evalp)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:21 am: |
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True, but I think most of us would never bring a new Rangie on the trails we go on with our Disco's.
I do like to new Range Rovers but would never really buy one. |
Chu Son
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:00 pm: |
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From seeing the specs, I'd bet the H2 is a very capable 4x4 out on the trails. Might high-center easily, but has good angles otherwise. Big tires, rear locker, lots 'o power.
The thing I'd like to know is why they feel that capability NEEDS to be packaged with wild styling. I think the new Tahoes are nice looking vehicles. Why can't we get the goods in that package? Sometimes, that look-at-me styling just goes too far. |
Todd Sanders (Sanderskog)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:41 pm: |
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I passed one going down the highway just yesterday. I really don't care for the looks of it let alone the early Merc chopped window look. Don't get me wrong. I love early Mercs. I just want to be able to see where the heck I'm going when on a trail and I can't see the H2 as having good visibility to all corners.
Todd |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:49 pm: |
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Hmmmm I read an article on it somewhere and recall them saying the frame was one half 3/4 ton suburban and half 1/2 ton suburban, if it does have some tahoe frame in there as well that has got to make the whole thing a real mess. I also agree with several of you guy's comments on the jeep cherokee like look. My personal opinion on the thing is that for that much money you could buy something else and afford to turn it into a real offroad/allaround bad-ass machine, I think the H2 simply serves the purpose of status symbol and/or penis extension. |
Robert Sublett (Rubisco98)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:08 pm: |
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Well, I think that they are cool looking, kind of like RoboCop or something. However, I do agree with the others. If I had 50k to spend, I'd buy a 99 D1 and do a TDi conversion, pimp it out, and buy another D1 for highway travel If I could only find 50k this week.. this year.. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 07:16 am: |
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Well Kudos for the Marketing of the H2.
They are running a commercial right now that targets women drivers. My wife who wanted a Disco saw that commercial and now wants an H2. And to top it off, another Woman I know is selling her Kick Ass D1 to buy an H2.
I will not fall in to the hype. I will stand tall next to my high maintenance British pig!
Paul
'00 pig |
Camille (Gwagenbabe)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:28 am: |
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I saw an H2 the other day at a dealership. I don't understand why that thing has to be so ugly?! It even made the G look real damn good next to it.
*Camille |
Rob Vreeland (Cruzths)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:02 am: |
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OUCH!
picture: http://www.adn.com/alaska/v-enlarge/story/1672787p-1789694c.html
story: http://www.adn.com/alaska |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:06 am: |
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Damn!
Apparently that guy was on a mission. Because "after he drove his Hummer through a red light, hit two vehicles and then sped down the road, where he hit two more vehicles...." |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 12:28 pm: |
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Look........ A burgandy conversion van had a wreck with a dually pickup truck. |
Christopher Boese
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
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Car Design News profiled the H2 when it appeared at the 2002 LA Auto Show. It's a restyled Tahoe. See http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2002/losangeles/highlights/h3-hummer-h2.html. Look underneath - it's not a real Hummer. No portal axles, central tire inflation, diesel engine, etc. That said, approach/departure angles would be better than a Tahoe, and you do get skid plates. Whatever. GM still doesn't make a real offroad vehicle. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 01:04 pm: |
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LOL. By your standards, neither does Land Rover in the US market.
Sure, it sucks that IFS is there, but it still has a 315 HP 360+ ft/lbs of torque, a monsterous rear axle, 4.10 gears, 33" tires, real front tow hooks, optional front hitch mount, and a rear locker with ETC up front. Approach and departure angles rival the best stock wheelers.
Also, it is not directly on the Tahoe frame, it is a hybrid of the Tahoe and Suburban frames. And yes, I did say frame, not some unibody catastrophe.
I really didn't like the GM trucks until I got behind the wheel of one, and then fell in love with my Tahoe. It is just some damned comfy and has plenty of power on tap with the 5.7.
I would take a hummer in a heartbeat for light wheeling and daily driving. Yes, even over the new Range Rover if they were at the same price.
Tom |
Christopher Boese
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 01:23 pm: |
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Hmmm. I'd missed the rear locker/front ETC setup. That's promising. I'd assumed that all the running gear was just slightly tweaked Tahoe stuff. And for what it's worth, a good friend has a 2WD Tahoe, and it's damned comfy compared with a Discovery.
Yes, any US-spec Land Rover is a compromise between Land Rover's offroad tradition and their need to sell to the family station wagon market (now being fed by minivans and SUV's.) What I've always wanted is a Tdi Defender 90 station wagon. What's the problem with getting them here? Diesel too dirty? Airbags won't work? |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:30 pm: |
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Who knows. I really wish we had more diesel offerings. The fact of the matter is that Diesel simply doesn't have the off the line acceleration that Americans crave as well as the "huh, what's diesel" factor.
I dream of a Discovery with 30+ mpg that diesel provides. Imagine the safety and coolness of the Disco mixed with the mpg of a Honda Civic. The American public has just plain missed the boat on this one.
Tom |
Sus (Susannah)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 04:57 pm: |
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I saw that 'Woman-targeted commercial' the other day and was totally disgusted by it! I can't believe they are doing that...and that people will fall for it. Though I am certain that it will appeal to many women who want to "Intimidate Men in a Whole New Way"....is a sad day. AND I think it's ugly!! |
Adtoolco
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 06:10 pm: |
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Don't worry yourselves...i would prefer to have women choose the H2, this way you can see them coming and avoid them all together. frickin' soccer moms!!!
-Chris |
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